Is Boston Childrens Hospital getting Fair Gamed?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. Anonymous Member

    I want to put my retarded speculations someplace.

    The conversation below on Beth Maloney's Facebook wall about a whistleblower is what made me think of Fair Game, because it reminds me of the "deep sleep" story in Australia in the 1980s, where an employee stole medical records from a psychiatric hospital and partnered up with Jan Eastgate and her bff Carole Fife Yeomans to get the place closed. Then Hollywood made a movie about the whole thing starring Linda Blair. And I think at least one psychiatrist committed suicide. So pretty much a win.

    Like I said, speculation on my part. Maybe the Aussie psychs deserved what they got. But "deep sleep" is still used for certain things, even though the Scientologists made it sound like it had zero justification and is frequently deadly.



    BRB, getting more stuff...
  2. Anonymous Member

    Some background about the other hospital that got black PR'd into oblivion:

    The Sydney Morning Herald
    March 9th, 1989

    March 11th, 1989

    March 15th, 1989

    March 18th, 1989

    May 27th, 1989

    May 31st, 1989

    June 2nd 1989

    June 9th, 1989

    June 24th, 1989

    August 4th, 1989

    September 19th, 1989
  3. Anonymous Member

    This story about a BCH pediatrician buying child porn on line broke just a few weeks ago. He is probably guilty because they found stuff at his place. But I do wonder about selective enforcement of internet kiddie porn laws because the busts don't seem to happen that often and I suspect there are guys looking at some nasty stuff pretty often. I don't think it would be too hard to set someone up by selling some legit porn for a while then hinting that you've got something harder, then OMG FBI.

    So again, retarded speculation on my part. I should probably die in a fire for wondering if this was an entrapment op due to the timing of the bust.

    tl;dr: Three black PRs close together: whistleblower story, porn story, PANDAS story. And something else I haven't started reading yet about "Le Roy."
    Children’s Hospital doc arrested on child porn charge

    By Herald Staff
    Thursday, September 13, 2012 - Updated 1 month ago
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    A pediatric endocrinologist was charged today in federal court with receipt of child pornography, the U.S. Attorney’s office is reporting.

    Dr. Richard J. Keller, 56, of Andover, was arrested and charged today with receipt of child pornography.

    Prosecutors said Keller bought or ordered more than 50 DVDs of child pornography online. An ongoing search of his home in Andover has turned up more than 500 high-gloss photographs and between 60 and 100 DVDs of child pornography, authorities said.

    Keller is a pediatric endocrinologist at Boston Children’s Hospital and a pediatrics instructor at Harvard Medical School, according to U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz’s office. He was also medical director at Phillips Academy for 19 years before he stepped down last year.

    According to a postal inspector’s affidavit, the case began with an investigation two years ago of an unidentified overseas movie production company that offered streaming video and DVDs of films featuring nude young boys engaged in food fights, showering, wrestling in bed and playing Twister. A review of records of sales in the company’s database led to Keller, the affidavit stated. The inspector said films were delivered to his home, a post office box and to a medical office at Phillips Academy. Some of those DVDs were recovered in the search of his home today, the postal inspector said.

    In federal court today, Judge Jennifer Boal ordered Keller, who pleaded not guilty to the charges, held until a Monday detention hearing.

    Prosecutor Michael Yoon said the government plans to show that Keller“appeared to have a dedicated sexual interest in children, going back several decades. Based on those factors, we do believe the defendant is a danger to the community.”

    Keller appeared in court in a green tee-shirt and khaki. He kept his head down as the judge, then the prosecutor detailed the charges against him, but as he was leaving court, he mouthed the words “I love you” to a woman sitting in the court.

    The women refused to identify herself and said she had no comment for the press. Keller’s court-appointed attorney Page Kelley declined to comment.

    A Children’s Hospital spokesman said in a statement: “Providing safe and appropriate care in a safe and protective environment is the absolute paramount priority for Boston Children’s Hospital. When the hospital learned of the allegations against Dr. Richard Keller earlier today, he was immediately put on administrative leave pending results of the investigation by the US Attorney’s Office. We will cooperate fully with the US Attorney’s Office and all other involved regulatory and legal authorities. No complaints or concerns have been expressed by any patients or family members about the care Dr. Keller provided while he was at Children’s.”

    A statement from Phillips Academy noted Keller is not a current employee and said: “The safety and well-being of our students is our top priority. We are fully assisting the U.S. Attorney’s Office to ensure that investigators have the information they need in order to perform their duties as it relates to this case. To this end, we are seeking all available information as it pertains to this matter, and will be regularly briefing the Andover community as we learn more in the hours and days to come.”

    A Harvard Medical School statement said only, “Richard Keller, MD, has held an appointment as a part-time faculty member at Children’s Hospital Boston in the Department of Pediatrics since 1992. He holds the part-time title of clinical instructor at Harvard Medical School.”

    If convicted, Keller faces a mandatory minimum of five years and up to 20 years in prison, lifetime parole and a $250,000 fine.

    The U.S. Attorney’s office encouraged people with information or concerns related to the case to call 617-748-3274, saying messages left at the number will be promptly returned.

    Developing ...
  4. Anonymous Member

    I typed out the capture of the alleged BCH whistleblower's note. Clunky writing is clunky and unreal:

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  6. Anonymous Member

    Oops I forgot the top bit of the whistleblower post, which I copied from the CCHR web site:

    So Katie Higgins RN claims to have worked on a unit at BCH from October 2005 to June 2010. I wonder if that is true or if she's an e-personality like Luanne.

    Here is a Katie Higgins RN commenting on a psychiatrist's blog who pretty much bashes psychiatry like Dr. Szasz:

  7. Anonymous Member

    This is what I heard about the Harvard thing, admittedly unverified: the three academics got speaking fees from various drug company sponsors. Those fees were paid to the dept of psychiatry which likely took its cut for administrative costs then paid the funds out to the doctors. The doctors were required to notify some administrative person at Harvard and they didn't do that for like seven years. They did pay taxes on the money so it wasn't like they were hiding the income.

    I am not going to throw stones because I need a minder to help with paperwork duties, especially ones I'm supposed to do annually cuz I forget.

    I haven't seen anything in the Harvard story that would lead me to believe that these three people lied about their research results. There are so many people involved in large randomized controlled trials of medications that cheating really would be difficult.

    There is gossip that Beiderman is kind of a dick. I've met Tim Wilens and he seems like a pretty cool dude.

    Personally I would rather see Senator Grassley going after bigger healthcare frauds like Narconon. Oh wait, Iowa, land of Palmer College of Chiropractic, so that is not going to happen.
  8. Anonymous Member

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  9. Anonymous Member

    I don't want corruption and bribes but I do want money, lots of it, spent on research and education. Sadly the governments of the world are in the red. So I say we take pharma money with a smile, provided that we take a lot of it from a lot of companies at the same time. That way if one company gets pushy, a researcher will just tell them to fuck off because he will have other sources of funding.

    The anti-pharma campaign was supposed to make research more trustworthy. But I just see a lot more moonbats as a result. Herbalife money seems worse than BigPharma money. At least BigPharma had been tamed over decades by the requirement to produce studies that other teams can replicate.
  10. Anonymous Member

    All I know is if I personally didnt seek help for my anger management, anxiety and mild depression, I would be in jail and would have lost my family. I have a low seratonin lvl and without my SSRI my life would have been thrown out the window.

    Also, prior to finding out that that was why i had the issues I had my whole life I was against all these pharma drugs. They are used and abused and I always felt the majority of people could handle these problems on their own. I didnt find out I had low seratonin levels till my late 20s (having done so cause I was acting off the wall and was very difficult to deal with) and I am much happier and healthier and now have the relationship with my friends and family I have always wanted.
  11. moarxenu Member

    I am twelve and what is this?
  12. Anonymous Member

    I wouldn't recommend going to a Chriopractor.
  13. Anonymous Member

    The protest in front of Boston Children's Hospital is meant to frighten the doctors who have openly criticized DAN doctors.

    The PANDAS mommy tribe is one of several closely related anti-vaccine groups running black PR campaigns against pediatricians and child psychiatrists treating children with various developmental problems. As with the CCHR, these groups collect anxious and unhappy people and grooms them to participate in propaganda campaigns notable for their over-the-top paranoid and hate filled content. They are able to find a few compromised physicians to provide a patina of legitimacy to their complaints. But they do not fairly represent the scientific consensus.

    Here's one of my favorite black PR examples from this tribe:


  14. moarxenu Member

    Frighten the doctors? Hardly, it was one or more doctors who insisted Child Protective Services seize custody from Elizabeth Wrays' parents, who do not want her to be there.

    The Children's doctors who are involved in this have all the power of the State at their disposal, and the parents have none.

    You write that the protest, a very small one and the first ever on behalf of PANDAS parents, was intended to frighten these presumbly easily intimidated doctors.

    There is nothing to support that contention.

    The protest was held to inform the public and protest the abuse of the power of a medical establishment in violation of parental rights and to ask Children's to undo the damage it has caused.

    Here is the text of the flier that was distributed:

  15. Anonymous Member

    Moarxenu, doctors cannot treat a seriously ill child in a hospital without parental consent. If the parents will not agree to a treatment plan the doctors feel is needed, they are required to contact protective services. Sometimes the case worker can mediate a resolution. Or sometimes the caseworker has to take the matter to a judge. The parents get to tell their side of the story to the judge also. This is a good way to check potential abuses of power.

    The doctors at BCH likely reported the referring physicians for those five or so PANDAS cases presenting there to their respective boards of medicine. Consider that these children were diagnosed not just with PANDAS, which is pretty fucking rare, but also with chonic Lyme disease (a highly controversial diagnosis), celiac disease (rare), and some allergic reaction to casein (rare).

    The DAN doctors have their own well funded private investigators and dirty tricks operatives who will do what they can to neutralize the threat to their licenses. They follow the "always attack; never defend" routine just like OSA.

    Have you followed the antivaccine community much? Are you aware that the PANDAS network is closely linked to the "Thinking Mom's Revolution" aka "Generation Rescue" led by many of the same people who lead Age of Autism, Autism One, and Safe Minds? Safe Minds was founded by Scientologists, btw.

    I think you must have a bad impression of doctors, moarxenu, to think that they are so cruel to this poor girl and her family for their own selfish reasons.
  16. Anonymous Member

    The medical version of "Religious Freedom Watch" might be:

    If you aren't up on the rather tiny effort to push back against health fraud in this country you won't get much out of browsing that site, just like people who don't know much about Scientology aren't going to get much out of RFW.

    But just for a taste of the unpleasantness: Bolen crows about making an attorney for the "quackbusters" suicidal:

    Bolen came on the scene years ago when the State of Illinois prosecuted a very crazy person named Hulda Clark for quackery. She fled to Mexico where she ran a clinic promising to cure cancer. Ironically, she herself died of cancer a few years ago. But I digress.

    Bolen is not a Scientologist. But there were a number of Scientologists involved with Hulda Clark. So OSA and Bolen are likely connected.

    A couple years ago the people at Age of Autism tried to get Dr. David Gorski fired by way of a letter writing campaign and an attempt to blacken his good name by claiming he failed to declare a conflict of interest.

    Getting people fired, associating their names with some unpleasant thing in the press repeatedly, and suckering people into long drawn out legal battles that ruin them financially --that is the quack playbook. Should sound familiar.
  17. Anonymous Member

    Moarxenu, I can't tell you how heartbreaking it is to share a patient with one of these DAN doctors. There's no power in it at all. Only profound helplessness.
  18. Anonymous Member

    Looking at Bolen's web site, it seems he's branched out from the "quackbusters" and is now going after "skeptics."
  19. fishypants Moderator

    An unmedicated child whose parents also make them avoid all the products of technology - such as printed books, housing, electricity, electronic communications, fire and the wheel - is unlikely to come to very many salient conclusions at all, as they rely on the oral tradition for knowledge while living with their parents in a cave, wearing furs and eating raw meat, nuts and berries.

    Unless they're the next Voltaire and can reason their way from "I think therefore I am" to the existence of income tax unaided.

  20. Anonymous Member

    As a doctor who occasionally speaks out against quackery, I have found that state governments and hospital leadership are not my friends. I stay silent mostly because I have everything to lose and very little to gain by painting a bullseye on my butt.

    There are about a dozen doctors in the US taking on quacks in a public way. The other team has Oprah, Dr. Oz, Jenny McCarthy, Scientology, chiropractors, Prince Charles, Bill and Penny George, Amway, the multi billion dollar supplement industry, and probably China and Russia.

    In the mid 1990s states changed their medical practice laws to protect "alternative" medicine, which used to be called simply "quackery."* So the NY doctors who told the Wrays their child has four or five rare diseases at the same time are safe. They need only demonstrate that a community of like-minded practitioners exist to justify their treatments. In other words, all they need is a cult. They do not need science.


    tl;dr: I wish you would help me, America.
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  21. Anonymous Member

    The PANDAS lady, Beth Alison Maloney is also Beth Alison Jelin, who might be this person:
    She keeps company with some very interesting people:
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  24. bader 5: they are traumatizing. they lie. they gave me ptsd.
  25. Anonymous Member

    I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe they help some people though?
  26. I fucking hate that Scientology is mixed up in the psychiatry debate. It makes opposition to psychiatry look nutty even though there's many aspects of it that deserve protest. If you take psych drugs and they help, good on you, but if your forced by a court to take neuroleptics that basically give you Parkinson's and shave 25years off your life that's not ok. The science on psych meds for the most vulnerable populations (schizophrenics, children, and the elderly) is shaky and worth drawing attention to, despite the ass-hattery of Scientology. Sorry for the rant, that is all.

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