29th Chaos Communication Congress - live stream

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Honigdachs, Dec 27, 2012.

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  2. Anonymous Member

    Some anons msde thier way there and set the troll signal
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    Achievements unlocked: collected sexism/harrassment warning cards, projected different things on the wall of the next building (right now up: longcat is loooong), networked with a lot of free internet activists. Then crashed in the ball bath at 3 in the morning. Great success!
  6. The Wrong Guy Member

    Jacob Appelbaum on Resisting the Surveillance State

    By Kevin Gosztola - Friday, December 28, 2012

    The Chaos Communication Congress (29C3), which organizers describe as “an annual four-day conference on technology, society and utopia,” began on December 27. There have been some exceptional talks given during the event so far. One of the ones worth highlighting is the keynote given by Tor software developer and WikiLeaks volunteer Jacob Appelbaum.

    Appelbaum has been someone targeted by the Surveillance State for his association with WikiLeaks. As he describes during his talk, it is “not an easy way to live.” Yet in the first few minutes of his talk, after describing the state-of-the-art data center being built in Bluffdale, Utah, by the National Security Agency (NSA), he says, “Despite the fact that there are these oppressive systems of control and despite the fact that we do now live in a surveillance state,” it may still be possible to “resist the surveillance state and to turn things around if we wish. I think that there may come when that is not true. I don’t believe that time has arrived.”

    For attendees (who likely are people who mostly work with technology), he asserts that there are “simple things” one can do to decide if working on something is oppressive or not.

    “Ask if you are working on a system that helps to control others or if you’re working on system that helps to enable others to have control over their own lives,” Appelbaum states. For example, “if you are working on deep packet inspection that will be deployed on people who do not have a say in it, you are probably working for the oppressor.” He adds one can make a choice. “It is possible to make a living making free software for freedom instead of closed-source proprietary malware for cops.”

    However, the cost of resisting the trend of working for systems of controls (like taking a job with Lockheed Martin) is that you could be on the wrong side of the Surveillance State. He shows a clip of Rep. Hank Johnson asking NSA director Gen. Keith Alexander about whether the NSA intercepts phone calls, emails or other communications of Americans. He claims the NSA does not.

    Alexander, who Appelbaum says is probably the “most powerful man in the world,” controls the intelligence structure of the NSA. Appelbaum adds, what he told Johnson was “Americans in America, they’d probably be fine, which really doesn’t make me feel good because there are 7 billion people on this planet and just a few of them are Americans. Why should they be treated specially in this regard? So that giant data center that we see, it’s for all of you.” It also is for Appelbaum because he’s associated with WikiLeaks.

    Appelbaum calls Alexander a “fucking liar” and blasts him for not even bothering to pretend that people outside the US have any value or that they have rights and their privacy is important and that their human dignity matters.”

    He later describes the reality of living in a society with secret police and spying changes that make it impossible for citizens to govern themselves and live freely:

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  7. Anonymous Member

    Was there a panel on Chaos Magick?
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  8. The Wrong Guy Member

    29C3 Panel: Jesselyn Radack, Thomas Drake, William Binney on whistleblowing and surveillance

    Published on Dec 27, 2012

    Enemies of the State: What Happens When Telling the Truth about Secret US Government Power Becomes a Crime

    Blowing the Whistle on Spying, Lying and Illegalities in the Digital Era

    Panel presented at 29C3 (29th Chaos Communication Congress), 27 December 2012. Speakers are Jesselyn Radack, Thomas Drake, and William Binney. The Q&A afterward is not included in this video.
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  9. Krautfag Member

    So proud of you bloody faggots ;_;
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  10. Honigdachs Member

    Made a new stencil, now bed.

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  12. The Wrong Guy Member

    I found this video eye-opening and fascinating, and hope you can make time to listen to what these people have to say. It's an excellent cure for complacency.

    Here's an article that provides an overview and partial transcript:

    US Whistleblowers on Being Targeted by the Secret Security State | The Dissenter
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  13. Honigdachs Member

    I didn't watch that one, but had a nice chat with Mr. Domscheid Berg, who was Assanges right hand for a long time. Was quite interesting, to get an insight into how a leak plattform works.

    will try to talk to Appelbaum tomorrow and a few others.
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  14. Krautfag Member

    Thank you, Unbekannter Nummer Eins.
  15. Anonymous Member

    Naturally nobody of the posters in this thraed has anything to do with it XD

  16. Honigdachs Member

    Didn't get Appelbaum yet, but had a long talk with La Quadrature du Net Today.

    MY Goal for the Afterparty of the Congress is meeting Ancilla Tilia the only Playmate ever turned netnutrality activist NSFW -->
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    lol, brilliant!
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    didn't meet Ancilla, have a stormtrooper in the ballbath instead
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