Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links People should know they're interacting with Scientologists.... it's a public safety issue. POST IT.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links It is NOT. The large percentage of Scientologists are good people, and they don't deserve to be harassed. The ones that ARE a danger as far as facebook goes are only those that you allow to be dangerous. Here's how to prevent danger: 1. On your normal facebook page, only add people you know. Simple as that. 2. If you have an anon account where you just add everyone who asks, you shouldn't reveal enough info to let it harm you. Simple as that. If you had a list of OSA members and socks on FB, that would be one thing Posting a list of Scientologists is another. They don't need to be harassed Though they do need to be helped Chances are, we won't help them by spouting anti-Scientology stuff or insulting them. They'll just hate us if we do that.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Then non-sci friends wil perhaps break the ties and the person will be lost forever in this shit. Best thing for scientologists is to have friends that are not! Don't waste power by helping OSA to prepare! DO NOT POST IT! (and if, then not all of them) What about allowing anons to request each 5 of the list via PM and then we see what happens. Plus Anons could ask via PM "is x on the list?" and receive answers via PM. Get each of the persons in the list a personal handler from anon to bring them out.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Don't! More win for us if handled in confidence. Making it all available in one strike would be a loss of control of the situation. BTW: is this list sorted on countries? Which countries do they belong to? If that answer would tell too much (e.g. when they all belong to one country) then don't answer on this. For Germanons would it be interesting to know how many german accounts are on the list. But as said before: don't answer if answer would tell OSA things they don't need to know.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links There is something to keeping intelligence secret from OSA... you are wise bagman or bag-wo-man.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links 888chan is read only, if you try to post anything or reply, you get a 404 message
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links If that list were to be posted publicly , all that will do is reinforce Slappy's bullshit smear attempts to make Anonymous look like a bunch of "Hackers on steroids" and it will give their little spokespeople a reason to cry about how they are so fucking persecuted by a bunch of "religious bigots" which isn't Anonymous. So , it's been established that we/you/ whatever- have some intelligence. With great knowledge comes great power , and with great power comes a great responsibility. Don't use it in a way that is useless. You want to help $cilons? Contact them in secret , send them information from a ghost ip. Don't fucking send lame shit either , send them REAL INFORMATION and documents that you know to be condemning evidence about the dwarf king and old mother hubbard. For fucks sake use your brain. If you post it publicly, Some jackass here will start harassing $cilons that probably don't have a clue what $cientLoLogy really is- under the name of Anonymous. Which in turn gives Co$ a reason to tell jr $cilons that those people outside in masks want to attack them , which we all know is NOT true. God Damn , I can't believe that this is even a debate.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links (clears throat, draws deep breath) As most "friends" on facebook are not really friends anyway or even acquaintances for that matter, who gives a fuck? I have scilons on my facebook, they send messages threatening to save me but never add me as a friend, which is just fine by me. Feed the world, make it a better place...
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links OK. So now the debate boils down to good & bad. Pros: * More people can make contact with the Scientologists and make the aware of information they probably don't know. Like Rex Fowler for instance. * Levels the playing field with communication. Cons: * Some Anons could abuse the list by doing annoy contacts (but they can do that anyway by looking up exiting Scilon groups & connections) * OSA will know who we can contact & may take steps to put a stop to it (but will probably piss off their Scientologists by being more authoritarian & suppressive) * Outing Scientologists (But the Scientology Completion list does that anyway) * OSA may use it as proof that we are out to get them (But right know Scientology holds the only communication lines to those Scientologists & they tell them shit about us anyway; time to level the playing field) * Leaving those individuals stuck in a cult without half a chance of getting any information. Bottom line is I don't think a handful of people can be as productive at passing information on to public Scientologists as the entire hive. 850+ is a lot of people. You'll need help. More good can come out of this than the potential fears or downsides. When indecisive about a course of action, the choice between doing nothing or the same-old, vs. taking action, I suggest taking action. Otherwise we will continue running the same circles we have always run in.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Fucking hugbox faggots the lot of you. Try doing something other than bawwing about a stupid list that may or may not exist. Or go over to esmb. You will fit right in.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Op, assemble a team with all the whiteknights around in this thread a deliver something. If nothing is delivered, post the fucking list already. True, with great power comes spiderman. So the way I see it, you have 2 responsabilities: 1) Protect the people on the list to be harmend 2) Make something productive (and good for the people in the list) happen. The people in the list are in a cult that wants to slave them and destroy their lives. You've got spiderman on that too. Ask yourself if some trolling maybe be a lesser danger than staying in a dangerous cult. Ask yourself abbout some of them not curing their cancers, and some of them having baby scilons born into a cult. For the sake of argument, if (when) the list is posted, OSA can also use the list to post terrorist threads to all the people in there pretending to be anon. I'd said, easily solved, assemble your team, write the same message to all the those scilons and also warn them about what osa might do. And for God's sake, forget about the image of anon! Anyone making a simple google search will get bad stuff about anon!
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links one minor point, OSA use a computer system called INCOMM, which is a relational database thats been getting fed data on critics for like 20yrs... and the only reason scn doen't publish is because it would make them look like the weird fuckers that they are never mind about publishing a list, if i get it, it's going in teh freaky big-brother-on-steriods relational database wot i'm building, for tacking w.i.s.e fraud companies
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links How sure are you that the list has the right John Smith for example if there is more than one person with a particular name? OSA often gets our info wrong when they dox anon. Hell when anon dox other anon they sometimes have wrong info such as FB links.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Personally, I'd just use the list as way to avoid any type of contact with the $ci-ons. Anything you tell them, you know it's gonna be twisted around and used against anon. Brainwashed cultie is brainwashed. And who knows what kind of tracking they got running on their computers. They used to run nanny software to block out 'bad' sites... Otherwise, I could give a fuck about the list....
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links YouTube - Scilons got ALL my videos taken down! But we WON anyway!
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Worst case scenario the individual gets information about how Scientology is a dangerous cult.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links get the best handlers and provide them with a few names. this is helpful. posting the whole list can be considered whenever you want. in 2 months aswell. so dont make a past decision and start it slowly with good doeses of entheta. we can use this list to help people. if we waste it, we help OSA.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links The argument that they can be found anyways just counts for people that have special intentions to know which scientologists are on failbook and who is a scientologist. Posting it here would enable and encourage random people with a facebook account to do things they normaly would not. It is so much more effective when you keep the list. When you post it, all the effect is blown away. Imagine to hear that OSA owns a list of anonymous. Aint it more scary when they do not publish it and you never know if they plan something at the moment with your data? Those who are interested can just ask you. All the others do not need the list at the moment.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links the other way round its worse not to out them on this platform
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links addition: worse for them not to out them this way so better for us
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Thanks for all your input. I will talk with my contact who will be reading your responses. I have a few other ideas. Know this, David Miscavige and OSA: Due to your extra efforts of fairgaming critics and ex-members, you can be even more sure that good use will be put this list sooner rather than later. Consider that you pulled it in. OP
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Consider the fact that posting the entire list will, with some checking through, reveal who the sock puppet is, so even if posting the entire list is the best use of it, consider adding in scifags from another account so they can't track down the leak. Also, maintaining the "scifag" in their midst could help us know when they send around PM's with warnings about anonymous (they seriously do that, tried getting a warning that a certain friend of mine was anonymouys and that I needed to un-friend him! Little did they know...) and give us other info about them, that could be used at will. At least save their dox before dropping the list... Ofc only do this if legal to do so in your juristiction.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links PM him and ask. I think giving the list to some people to talk to the cultists is a good way to get them to blow. Also, since OSA doesn't know who's exposed, either they force all their drones to abandon FB completely (which is a win for us), or else they run the risk of more defections. Keep em guessing.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links I don't know if it would break the anti- doxing rules here or not but over on that Independent blog run by whatshisname. Some guy just posted a link to 3,600 Scientologist addresses. I didn't look at it so I don't know if they are snail mail or e-mail addresses but here is a link to the blog page they are linked to on. (the author of the blog is comparing himself to Martin Luther) The Reformation Moving On Up a Little Higher search the list was linked to in the comments by someone named, " exsolonotsdofp "
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Rathbun pisses me off so much. Smug bastard. At least we'll have a new target when DM goes down.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Old list is old. As far as I know this is a list of WISE companies. Had the same names already on my screen.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links This has nothing to do with doxing names or anything. Just an observation of the count..... There are 850 Scilons on Facebook?? We have Over 925+ EX scis on our list. neener neener We win!
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links pm the list to me now, I am a noted SP and will look after it as if it was my own
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links Yep. Posting the list will solve one problem. You can be fairly certain to NEVER be able to glean this kind of info again. Go for the long term win. Posting these names all over the toobs will generate a few short term hard ons on this end but they won't last, and all your SciViagra will be gone. Scilos will ginn up the usual BS "here is the attack" story and you're gonna lose yer boner. Dole 'm out via PM. Gently check out the F.B. or whatever. Enturbulate / Evaluate/ Escalate Repeat as necessary for great justice
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links I think we'd better just check that we are not being dragged into a game. Many of the so-called <a href= http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/osa-third-party-operation/>"Independents"</a> have apparently been receiving emails and Facebook messages referring them to black PR sites defaming and generally slandering their own. Its an obvious ploy to stir up dissent and distrust within their own ranks. Now, it wouldn't be too cynical to suggest that by leaking the list to Anonymous OSA is seeking to establish plausible deniability by saying "wasn't us, it was them". Please, please, please - double check the names on the list against known Independents. So far as I'm concerned, the Independents have a free pass from serious enturbulation until the official Co$ has been destroyed. If a check against the Independents indicates that the list applies specifically to Church members - fuck 'em!! Lets have it.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links MySpace - Chris - 34 - Male - UK - myspace.com/245447597 j/k I wish we still had Foams shoop of him. For everyone else he runs the BrumOrg and is a wussy.
Re: 850+ scientologists facebook names/links I don't think it would be that difficult to find 850 scientologists on facebook ...just find the front groups...and go from there..
