Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by CarltonBANKS, Sep 28, 2011.
Well that's my Christmas avatar sorted out.
I'm pretty sure the attachments to that specific email weren't in the files. I went through them pretty thoroughly and wasn't able to find anything that corresponded. Would be delighted to be shown otherwise though!
attachments to emails aren't sent *with* the email message, they are sent *inside* them as a block of text, usually below the message body text, and noted to be in BASE64 encoding.
if a person renamed the (original) file with a .eml extension, and dropped it into Outlook Express (or some other mail-client like it) the client will notice the part of the message which is marked as an attachment and make it possible to save the file out.
emails between a Stephen Gx potential recruit and Steve Turnbull scientologist.
A few points:
1. message is getting through.
2. they have counter arguments at scientologymyths.info
3. "All God's Will" is an invitation to complete irresponsibility.
Have a look here: http://www.scientology-london.com/brum/org/
The photo was in the attachments folder. There may be dots to connnect on the site identified above. Scroll down, just a little ways...
I went and had a look. Not a place I would think people would find much usefull struff. It's mostly Luann's bawing.
proxy up people! just sayin...
They have their own take on things which is interesting. I had paraphrased for people but lost it when it failed to post. Damn. Suffice to say it is Louanne bawing and some funky turns of phrase mixed with attacking the critic rather than answering the question.
Psychiatrists for instance is not why we want to globally obliterate psychiatry it's why psychiatrists hate scientology and dianetics because it's a threat to their plans for world domination.
Right, that's what I did. I was able to pull lots of other attachments (that's where I pulled the pix of the money upthread), but there was nothing corresponding to that particular email. A few attachments in the collection, though, were sent separately from the emails that referenced them (because the sender forgot to attach to the original message, I guess) which is why I held open some hope that someone might find them somewhere. I doubt it though, since, as I said, I went through them pretty thoroughly.
The attachments are not in those specific *.eml files, as they are for other emails. It's possible someone deleted them from within Outlook (within Brum Org), once they detached the files. Or maybe they forgot to attach them.
Sidenote: the first massive text file (in the OP) is missing a few hundred emails. If you want to see everything, get the huge ZIP file, and learn how to unhide hidden files. Or wait until someone here does it..
This is what I found:
Do not want!
Hey, in response to this (over on exscn.net), I have to take my hat off to you. There are thousands of emails that I hadn't seen before. Thousands. There are a few hundred useless ones (bounces etc) but there are also proper comms/photos/docs I hadn't seen before.
/r/ EML --> HTML coverter. (I've tried everything on my Mac; nothing works). Can any of you Linux or WindowsF*gs please try and do some sort of massive batch conversions, please?
There is just too much stuff here for one person (or even a small group) to sift through. Want to chuck the lot online.
I came to an identical conclusion today. I'll continue with what I started, but no way I could initiate examining another pattern. It is too massive.
The text file is about 3000 pages. As you have stated, there are numerous bounced e-mail items. Also some wacky HTML formatted stuff.
Earlier I'd estimated a 1000 pages of useful information, but I now believe it is in excess of 1000 pages. By how much? I don't know ATM.
What did the bitch expect? She's denouncing him to the KGB, like it's 1937. Of course he is antagonistic.
Is there any news on more of it that I may have missed?
I don't quite understand. I did pull everything out of every folder, convert it to .eml and load it into Thunderbird, but after taking out the bounces, I only ended up with about 2,500 emails total, and some of those were duplicates. I read all of them last weekend. I'm not sure where all these extra ones you're referring to are.
ETA: Before I pulled all the bounces, there were something like 25,000 emails. (40,000? I don't remember. Need to go Clear!) They have a lot of outdated email addresses.
I have just finished a tally of items in the 200.4 MB ZIP File.
A. There are 1,644 .eml files.
B. The total of files that are not .eml files, but can be converted to .eml is 11,117.
C. The sum of all of these is 12,761 files.
Many of the 11,117 files are HTML files and bounced, undeliverable e-mail files.
Sterling work, JBN. Congrats!
I've done some sampling from that 11,117 number.
I went to scientologybirmingham.com folder>mail folder>new folder> where 9,998 converted files are. This is the largest trove of any of them. There were another 784 and some to add to that four digit number in another folder in the main parent folder.
I sampled the top fifty, the bottom fifty and grabbed fifty from somewhere in the middle. 100% of these are "undeliverable mail" reports.
Think about that! Nearly 10,000 attempts to contact members of a mailing list failed! Comm cycles & ARC not working very well, it would appear!
Seen in relation to the number of apparently successful e-mail communications, I would call FAIL on STATS and no wonder there is a sense of desperation throughout the entire package!
EDIT: ran the same routines on the scientologybirmingham.com folder>mail folder>cur folder>
That one contains 784 converted files. Sampled top, bottom and middle and got Undeliverble mail reports - return to sender, etc., with the exception of some trivial material about xmas parties, and something in Italian I need to translate.
So, it is over 10,000 e-mails that got bounced! ARC fail, Big-Time!
As in, bounced e-mail addys on cancelled accounts for scilon... uhm... excessive "solicitation" perhaps?
10K bounced e-mails and they can't figure out what's wrong?
I'm this  close to feeling sorry for them, but not quite. Bwahaha-bwahahahahahaha.
i was thinking that it seemed like most of the field had changed it's email adresses to avoid the clam-spam
The other notable item in those very large collections is SPAM sent to Clam Land.
I explained why I thought this was happening earlier ITT when I pointed out the use of CC: instead of BCC: in e-mail dispatches with multiple recipients.
Dumb clams in clam land are very dumb clams.
Scattered throughout the whole trove, including the single e-mail spool text file, there are dozens of "unsubscribe" dispatches, to the org e-mail address. The contrast of the reality with the rhetoric is coming into sharp focus.
Here is an example of "rhetoric" -
I think that's Ellie Feeney on the right. SF Bay area clam.
i think it's Robbie Kinsey
"Me, being silly"
- Katie Barker - Tech Sec
DATE: 2010-06-18 20:03:04
TO: EMANUEL BEYER <email@example.com>
SUBJECT: Me being silly!!
Carlton? Is this ^^^^^^^^^^ photo part of the attachments trove?
DATE: 2010-11-08 11:22:47
FROM: Birmingham Org <firstname.lastname@example.org>
TO: katie barker <email@example.com>
SUBJECT: FW: News...
From Janet to me FYI.
Subject: RE: News...
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 01:45:36 +0000
answers keep a'coming. I could not get along with soya although I am not supposed to be allergic to it. Good thing I recently had some brilliant auditing because I am bang in the middle of an unexpected, pretty nasty suppressive attack. No matter, I can handle monsters that are appearing (some surprising ones) I suppose I have invited this situation by demanding that mother is fed and watered!! Pulling on the "Dragon's tail" is producing monsters to slay.
Surprisingly, my younger brother and wife are antagonistic to proper care for mother. They are fighting to keep a poor standard of care, silly sausages. They are not going to win. I should have dealt with this issue long ago. Will keep you posted.
Just a thought-- because the demand for soya has been so great, production is mainly chemical based now. Can't guarantee proper labelling etc.
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:58:21 +0000
I found out via a friend that soya products, un-fermented ie soya milk have a detrimental effect on the immune system and thyroid functions - so I've been using this stuff since I was 21. So guess who is knocking off soya!
Also Christian has some interesting superfood products so I've got some of that to try!!!
Hope you are flourishing and prospering!
DATE: 2010-06-18 20:02:14
TO: EMANUEL BEYER <firstname.lastname@example.org>
SUBJECT: Wheeler with Rachels baby
Dave Wheeler with Rachel's baby (which Rachel?)
To the people saying the baby is drinking barley water, how can you tell?
Oh noes! - teh baby haz da koolaid!
Are they giving that poor baby barley water and all the other shit LRH the child abusing freak recommended??
Barely water? What does that do?
Again with the passive-aggressive.
Seems that's a very common tone to take within an Org.
Speculation on my part here: mom is in a facility with some terminal condition. And somehow the effort to sort out which is causing more suffering --a feeding tube and physical restraints to prevent mom from pulling it out verses lack of food and drink for a time until she passes away-- somehow this problem is an attack upon the daughter, Janet Jeanes, by monsters who must be defeated.
So what's the progress of going through all those emails? How many more are left?
Do you guys think there is still something juicy in there that we're yet to discover?
I think they've been pretty well picked over. But I'd love to be proved wrong!
If your neighbors forget to lock their front door are you going to waltz in and scan their baby pictures onto the internet? Have you thought about what you are doing?
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