Carlton: I know, it's different when you know a person from the past. I've been spending some time looking for people I knew, and liked, who stayed long ago. Knowing how extremely criminal and evil it's become over the years, in layers, I asked myself what was the difference in those that left and those that stayed? Most of the people I liked were like me and left as soon as it became obvious that it was a cult. But there were, I'd say, a dozen others who stayed and it never made sense to me why they did. They were people like me, too, I thought. They weren't stupid robots, or evil in any way. Let me tell you, Carlton, I finally found the last of the dozen recently. And like 10 of those 12, they had died, some time ago. All of them were in their 30's to 40's and most from cancer. I finally figured it all out because of your emails. They all needed professional psychiatric help, and they needed it immediately. Only immediately was 20 to 30 years ago. The extreme daily stress, physical and mental, did a great deal to set them up for disease. And those that kept them from getting the help they needed in a timely manner are people I like to call the Professional Scientologists from Hell. Some of them seem to still be on the "inside" of the fence, and others, well, that "other" side. I don't give a flying f*ck about their f*ing "sides". Here's the thing Carlton. Fortunately, lawyers and politicians and others have worked out all the sticky points of who is culpable and who was gullible and who gets what punishment and who gets helped. Not always the best, but at least it is a start. But let me tell you one thing I know for sure: No one with a conscious would let their child be traumatized for any reason, and no spouse would let their other half suffer cancer's torture needlessly or for one second more than necessary and no human being would substitute love and compassion for an upper IAS status or golden ring and rung on a dead end bridge. ps: lawyers can advise as to immunities for testimonies and other benefits. just sayin'