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Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by tazor, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    SO true.
  2. darkshadow667 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Sorry, Sarah, It IS the Thought behind the reply, but every misplaced " and missing H made me pause and it took longer to read....

    ... but, then I just said fuck it and went back to watching my porn.
  3. darkshadow667 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    [IMG]


    OH MY GOD!!!:eek:
  4. Consensus Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Aaron's criticism of Marty's unwarranted self-importance is right on the mark. I don't know if he's borrowing anon tech or if he's independently discovered a fundamental law of human social interraction. Either way, I like the cut of his gib.

    That said, I do see great strategic value in having a 'true believer' leading a coup, causing a schism.

    In any case, Marty reminds me a lot of Leni Riefenstahl.
  5. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Nowadays the world is more aware of what Scientology really is and how it messes with the people unfortunate enough to get sucked in.

    I'm wondering if this is empowering the exes a bit since they maybe don't feel as if they have to hide away. Nobody's mocking them because they were members of a cult and with the internet they're finding out they're only part of a very large group.
  6. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Interesting.
  7. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    I don't know but I think Aaron figured this out on his own.

    Reason being: He outlined what he was going to cover then he started on his videos. He got feedback from Anon. He almost immediately responded. But the thought was there before he ever heard from "us".
  8. tazor Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Nobody's mocking them? hahaha Lurk Moar.

    It's because we've got thicker skins these days and don't care if people mock us.:)

    And yeah, the more people who speak out the more empowering it is of course. Safety in numbers and all that.

    Marty's flying monkeys have been out for a while now for the most part. There's a few new ones but not as many have left because of his blog as he'd like us all to think.
  9. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Yeah, I phrased that really badly and for a start I don't just mean on this board but the public in general. As the message keeps spreading that Scientology's a dangerous cult isn't there a slight shift in perception that the exes who got out were the smart and lucky ones, as opposed to just being fools for joining in the first place?

    Again with the numbers thing, instead of someone blowing, creeping back home and feeling like they were the exception and must have done something wrong, nowadays they get on the internet and there's a hell of a big community waiting to welcome them.
  10. tazor Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    You're right. There's a definite shift in attitude now. Just look at HushHush. It looks like he walked out of the org and staight onto the internet. :)

    We are entering a new phase in this battle I think. We're over the fear hurdle for the most part. Pretty soon we'll be swarming the castle.
  11. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Westley: And our assets?
    Inigo Montoya: Your brains, Fezzik's strength, my steel.
  12. BlooAnon Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3VxOqHI-4"]YouTube- Storming the castle[/ame]
  13. Mutante Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    I'm yet to be convinced that Marty is even out of the official CoS.
  14. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    There have been many people who have gone to the FBI with damning evidence along with witness/witnesses who have been willing to testify and the FBI has done nothing.

    I personally know of a group of people who went to the FBI about 6years ago with information about an ongoing illegal activity by Scientologists. They reported it and heard nothing back about them having to testify or how the investigation was going. The group decided to call and find out what was going on and I won't say what they were told because it would be too much of a hint about who these people are, but let's just say that nothing will ever come of that evidence being turned over by some very reputable people.

    I know of someone on this forum who turned over very important information that should have been handled immediately for the safety of the person involved. When this person got no follow-up, they also called the FBI back. The FBI had no idea what this person was talking about. No record of them ever having reported this information. This is also a very reputable person who is not and never has been a Scientologist.

    I am hoping that Graham Berry gathering information about incidents like this and turning it over to the FBI will finally make the FBI do something.

    We'll see.
  15. WTF Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    The FBI represents nearly everything I have come to expect of a federal agency.

    It is probable that if there is not an opportunity to to overwhelm a supposed threat with firepower or simply just plain fire--they will not be interested.
  16. Sponge Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    What he's doing is directly quoting Graham Berry. It's pre-anonymous. Smurf, like most here, don't really know what the fuck is going on with the feds at this moment in time.

    How the Scientology Organization uses and exploits the United States' legal system for its own ends - Wikisource

  17. tazor Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    I get the comparison, Consensus. The big difference between Marty and Riefenstahl is she had talent.
  18. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Amazing considering all of the WHOLE countries we've had conflict with since '94 but one friggin cult is beyond the government's ability to cope with?????

    Corrupt Politicians!!!!
  19. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    There ain't enough eating on a skunk to make it worth grabbing its tail.
  20. Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Santa loves both Aaron and Marty.
  21. Skeptic1337 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Does Aaron lurk wwp?

    I'm trying to understand something. Why waste your time sending this moron any messages? I mean why even devote any more of your life to the sociopath?

    My guess is you still so hunger for his approval, this wont be the last message.
  22. anon111265 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    no you are right, his post totally comes accross as sucking up and seeking approval.

    maybe the fact that marty is a massive douche that needs to be called on his bullshit was enough for aaron to call him out for being a douche spreading bullshit.
  23. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    The FBI is paying attention not only to CoS but to Anons re: fair gaming, dead agenting, and doxing of Anons.

    Prove me wrong.
  24. Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    They must be SHAMED into action.


    Remember, this is the same FBI that refused to investigate 19 "student" muslim extremests, until only AFTER four 757's were used as flying suicide bombs.

    Even is the USA is the last country in the world to crack down on the insane cult, even after Australia, New Zeland, France, Germany, Belgum, Russia, G.B. (if only because of Australia), Greece, Spain, Kazakhstan (Fucking Kazakhstan!), and the rest finally wake up, with the USA stubbornly being the last.
    So be it...

    (Because, by then, the CoS WILL find a way to spectacularly fuck up, and the feds will HAVE to act. Hopfully, there will be few civilian casulties...)
  25. anonymous612 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Dox or gtfo.

    "We call you a faggot because we love you."

    STFU, I like Kazakhstan, it likes to fire rockets at Harrison Ford.

    ...okay Air Force One is all I know or care about Kazakhstan. Carry on.
  26. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Yeah, like I'm going to post dox.
  27. anonymous612 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Then your course of action is obvious, isn't it? It's an either/or battleplan, my dear.
  28. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    And ruin the surprise? Now, where's the fun in that?
  29. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    hey I thought tits were in there somewhere
  30. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Well, since their past and present track record is pretty much shit in regards to anything pertaining to Scientology, I'd say that it would have to be something fucking spectacular for them to garner much respect from the people who've put their lives on the line by reporting information to them for so many years.
  31. Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    The FBI as every gov. institution particularly in the US has to deal with the problematic of the first amendment: The freedom of religion. This will at all levels including Law be a problematic until it is addressed appropriately. Americans do not like their constitution fucked with and people like LR Batshit use it to their advantage till no end. It's a difficult situation because it protects individual freedom. Time will sort this mess out. It's a long road but i have faith that it will work out personally.

    To many ex scinos are embroiled in hatred. They are hurt and they want to blame, wether its Marty blaming the midget or other exes blaming Marty. Most want to blame somebody. I think Aaron represents a new kind of ex who is taking responsibility for their failure while also having the capacity to understand that we are dealing with a system which promotes delusion and the separation of free will using benign means.

    There are others like Jenna who i think are pretty special as well as they have the ability to pick up the pieces and forgive.

    Anon represents an outsider who can see the shit without having to be emotionally involved and therefore can sometimes be a little more cleared headed.

    One of Hubbards tricks was to instill paranoia into the minds of a Scientologist and personally i think a lot when they come out keep this paranoia and just direct it in other directions. There is mass paranoia and hate on ex sites like ESMB, If you don't follow the consensus then you are labeled an osa op or sympathizer no matter how reasonable your discussion is. However, these people have been hurt so there is understanding that they get passionate about what they are doing and that they remain strong for one another which is also a very important part of all this.

    That paranoia does spread onto WWP because a lot of exes have a base here. We all learn from each other over time, specially those that can think outside the box.

    We all have a common goal and that goal is simple: Stop the destruction of human rights in COS. Anyway we do it is win. Others have other agendas on top of that (anon for its total destruction, freezoners for a free system etc..) but our common goal remains and together we are stronger than alone.

    We need each other.

    If we direct our energy towards our goal we will get there quicker.

    just sayin.
  32. anonymous612 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    That's the OTHER battleplan.
  33. _You_ Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Everyone of the people involved in reporting the two cases I posted earlier were not and had never been Scientologists. All of them were very much upper middle class with careers and good standing in their respective communities. They all saw things that were illegal and harmful. These people took their information to the FBI and the FBI did nothing. Since one of these incidents was six years or so ago, the FBI has had plenty of time to investigate it and they haven't because what they were doing six years ago is still going on today. I'd like to think the FBI would not investigate this particular crime for six years and let it continue.

    As I said before, I hope that the information gathered by Graham will finally make the FBI do something about the cult's illegal abuses.
  34. Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Understanding will always get you closer to your goals than forcing people into thinking your way. That's what separates us from Hubbard mentality.
  35. Anon123456 Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    /r/ Marty Rathbun word filters to "shitnipples"

    that is all.
  36. marcehole Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Aaron... Your words speak with the weight of experience... and much more... I smelled poop as a 'public' Scientologist.. which is why I 'blew'... To hear of someone 'IN' so much deeper than I was and yet walk out with Your good senses is a welcome music... my dear friend... You have more support in these times... because the information is more available... and You are popping the threshold of additional info needed to bring it clearer into the public domain... the internal day-to-day workings of the Co$ machine.
  37. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    tinfoil

    infraction

    enjoy your b&

    Santa = slut.

    At first I read that as "Hopfully, there will be a few civilian casulties..."

    (oh shi...... Moxon alert)

    You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means -- especially since it's an adjective.
  38. WTF Member

    Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun


    ...
  39. Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    Is u saying my grammar is problematic?
  40. Re: Aaron's Final Message To Marty Rathbun

    ^ and ^^
    I rofflicated.

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