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Action against jailbait sites

Discussion in 'Think Tank' started by Shennen-Ryder, Apr 29, 2014.

  1. Shennen-Ryder Member

    I posted the other day about minors on Image FAP and found that many of those pictures had the logo from a site called prime jailbait. I reported one user for posting such pictures and was able to get his profile placed under review.

    I thought of a plan that might work to bring down jailbait sites, but the only downside is that it would include browsing the sites. I was thinking that if any identifying clues are left on any of the pictures such school names or school sports jerseys, then the schools can be identified and the administrators can be tipped off. This could result in a lot scrutiny from school administrators and parents against those sites and could potentially lead to lawsuits against those sites.

    Any thoughts? Does anyone know the legality of being on such a site?
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  2. White Tara Global Moderator

    Bump, for informed answer.
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  3. RavenEyes Member

    Any and all images of underage chid pornography needs to be reported online to NCMEC and they will investigate or forward to law enforcement. Thanks.
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  4. mongrel Member

    Ummmm....good luck with that whole "I was looking at kiddie porn to save the children" defense. Of course, you could try the alternate route of contacting authorities ahead of time and informing them that you would like to put a stop to kiddie porn by looking at kiddie porn. I'm absolutely certain that would go over well. They would obviously see the pure intentions of your heart and suspect nothing else.

    tl;dr You've been watching too much Chris Hansen.
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  5. Shennen-Ryder Member

    The pictures I reported on image fap were non-pornographic (school cheerleaders, sports teams, etc) all of which had the logo of the site. I also did a who.is search on the site and found that it is hosted in the united states and has been up since 2009. If they were hosting kiddie porn, don't you think they would be shut down by now? These sites simple host images that are found on social media. Its not the content on the site, but the site's purpose for using the images that is the issue. I'll ask a legal expert before considering.
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  6. Shennen-Ryder Member

    I asked a legal expert about this and he said unfortunately nothing can be done about these sites. They're not technically breaking any copyright laws, so lawsuits against them would be ineffective. These sites are also currently protected by the 1st amendment and for some reason, lawmakers won't pass legislation to outlaw them. Even if these sites get shut down in the US, the site owners will just host them in another country. So forget everything I mentioned above. It would be a waste of time.
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  7. RavenEyes Member

    There are several levels of CP, from a legal and prosecution definition, and "cheerleading" has nothing to do with whether something is deemed pornographic. Kids can be fully clothed. I think you know that. I think you also know that something labeled "jailbait" is open to scrutiny.

    But, whatever. The world does sorta work together now and then, so it matters not if other countries decide to host them. There are international treaties in place for child stuff, including jailbait, porn, trafficking, etc. If you had access to that legal expertise you cited today, and it was legit, I doubt you'd have come to this forum for advice in the first place.

    Edit:

    Section 2260 of Title 18, United States Code supports that it doesn't matter which country hosts the sites. So, your legal expert needs to brush up on federal law.

    Secondly, this isn't a situation that would be handled in civil court via lawsuits. These are federal crimes that are allegedly being committed. Contact National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Please don't play vigilante superhero. Not because it's dangerous to you, but because it messes up so many cases it's not even funny.
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  8. Shennen-Ryder Member

    I asked about it on a legal forum and it seemed like they were defending the site. I was told that my imagination and speculation doesn't give me the right to interfere with someones website. Another user accused me of trying to pull off a "fishing expedition."

    I'm still very new at this as I'm sure you've noticed. That is why I figured I propose an idea and ask first. I'm definitely not going to attempt anything or go anywhere near the site. I don't want to engage in anything that may be illegal or a waste of time and energy.
  9. Just my opinion.

    I think you got push-back when the question becomes freedom vs. censorship. You may not like something (I think most of us would agree that the Westboro baptist church are carbon based scum.) but because you don't like something is that a reason to censor it?You start censoring things that are not illegal, distasteful, but not illegal then where does it stop? Do we now have to consider every bodies feelings? You are creating a gordian knot of epic proportions.

    What I do disagree with them, is trying to curb your reaction. Just as these sites exist, they don't have the right to not be challenged for what they are doing. You have just as much right to challenge and question what they are doing. It's no different with scientology. They have a right to believe what they want, but they are not immune to criticism.

    So, go as far as you want to go. Just stay on the legal side of things. I'd rather see someone challenge and criticize something that may not be right, than to shrug, figure there is nothing you can do and move on.
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  10. Shennen-Ryder Member


    I'm all for allowing people to think and live the way they want, but in this case it is a little different. When you have webmasters allowing users to upload pictures of minors (even if the pictures are taken from social media sites) and being used for the wrong reasons, then it becomes exploitation. Even sites like image fap allow their users to get away with this kind of crap. A user who's profile I had put under review was released and he is still allowed to use that site. You have to think of it as if you were a parent and someone was using a picture of your son or daughter for that purpose. I brought that up on the legal forum as well. All I got was a snide remark in return.
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  11. Again, read my post. I think you've misunderstood what I said.

    I fully understand where you are coming from. What they are doing on that site, to my moral understanding, is wrong. But, the question from a legal stand point is a different question. It's like KKK rallies. I view them as hateful, morally bankrupt, assholes who- in a sense- contribute to violence against other races. There are many things one could do to counter such rallies, like writing to a newspaper, conducting your own "reason" rally, etc. Would I go so far as to push legislation to ban KKK rallies? Nope, I won't.

    I agree with your sentiments. I don't even think I'd appose a very succinct law making it illegal to post any type of pictures of children on a website that it's whole purpose is of a sexualized nature. What I wouldn't want is a broad definition, that will be abused, so you'd become a criminal if you posted a pic of your 12 year old taking a swim.

    Sometimes we have to take the bad with the good, to live in a free society. But, you'll also note that I encourage those, to take to task, something that maybe should be illegal. Society will help decide what side of the fence you are sitting on.
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  12. RavenEyes Member


    But you wouldn't post a pic of your 12 yr old taking a swim on a site labeled FAP or JAILBAIT. Come on. A lot of these sites are ripping off pics from legit sites, like Facebook. For what purposes?

    Please don't use WBC as a comparison. It's a bit apples/oranges. I was at a funeral they protested a week plus ago. They were a block away. Did their schtick, then left after less than an hour. Was it pleasant? No, but it was easy to ignore, and no one went away thinking any of them were masturbating to the image of the person who was being eulogized, who happened to be an underage child, by the way. Even the KKK tries to promote a message. These messages might be evil, yes. But, they're not used to self-stimulate by a myriad users who are sexual predators or sexual pedophiles of children. Sorry. To me - big difference. Sexual deviance and exploitation of children in any form is NOT freedom of speech in any way, shape, or form. Take that to the Supremes and see how they rule.

    I think society is beginning to get very vocal on where it stands, BTW.
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  13. Shennen-Ryder Member


    OK so by this point the only thing that can be done is passing legislation to outlaw these sites. The only problem is our govt won't do it. How can citizens convince lawmakers to shut these sites down or force them to only host adult images?
  14. RavenEyes Member

    Your gut/instinct always gives you the right to get involved interfere. Just go to the proper places where people are authorized to help you. If you're not sure who to turn to, go to the people I first suggested. They listen, no question is silly to them, and they help. They also have the true "power" to get shit done. :)
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  15. RavenEyes Member

    Make some noise. I mean a lot of it. Our government just now this week is getting all up into colleges/universities and the situation behind their brushing sexual assaults under the carpets. Why? Because enough students across the country said, "Enough is enough" and brought facts and bodied to Capitol Hill.

    Educate Facebook users to stop posting all of their kids' pics to the world, and instagrams, etc. People make their lives too accessible to the creeps living in the sewers.

    There are so many grassroots and local efforts going on. Start one, or join one. Fight the good fight, like you're trying to do. Read the starfish story. :)
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  16. laughingsock Member

    Raven, I agree. If you call yourself a "fap"site well you are a "fap" site. At the very least as a "fapper" one should complain to the admin. WTF? I can't fap to this! I'm going to a real porn site that doesn't include seemingly inane images that foster the most evil,perverse,human behavior.
  17. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Hi
    I did this on YouTube-a channel called JailBait. It was tied to a web page for JailBait.com, youtube wouldn't take it down because the videos were not porn.
    1. Then I showed the that Jailbait.com was charging for YouTube videos
    2. I told the parents of the teens what was happening
    3. One of the YouTube' Stars' got involved.
    It was a lot of work. The result was the parents complained and deleted the videos that they had posted of their children and YouTube deleted the channel.
    Although I applaud your initiative, I'm not going to browse fap sites.
    Make noise, keep complaining to the sites.
    If you post a list of the sites and their contact information here, and a description of what you found I'll complain directly to the sites too.
    I don't want to take a stand against porn though, that's legal.
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  18. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Because what they are doing isn't illegal. What you are doing is the only thing that will work. Complain. Document. Get in touch with the schools on the logos and ask them to complain etc.
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  19. Shennen-Ryder Member


    I asked about that on the legal forum and they basically shut me down.
  20. RavenEyes Member

    You keep doing it. They only shut you down if you let them. :)
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  21. I don't know where the disconnect is happening. I've tried to be clear as I possibly could, yet you want to make an enemy of me, when I'm clearly on your side.

    Maybe it is because I can see the bigger picture and you're so focused you excuse all else, which becomes obvious when you discard an example, as worthless, without trying to see what is really being said.

    Either way I guess I'm done as I have really nothing more to say, on the matter.
  22. RavenEyes Member

    What? I don't want to make an enemy of you, and don't know where you get THAT from. I didn't discard the WBC as worthless, I just provided MY opinion that it isn't really an applicable comparison. It's okay to disagree on here, right?

    Wow. People sure are grumpy tonight. I just woke up to take more migraine meds. Cheers!
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  23. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    I thumbed down in error, this phone has teeny thumb options and makes my fingers gigantic in comparison.
  24. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...d-porn-the-mod-was-doxed.111345/#post-2313208
    Reporting.
    All of these issues came up on Reddit when they allowed forums that posted Soft CP or pix from social sites. The question of first amendment rights allowed the posting to continue until one mod traded child porn with a user. Then shit: fan. The board decided no CP, no soft CP, banned the Mod who was doxxed at the same time. He got to explain his hobby to his boss and family.
    Legal forums will give you snarky answers when you present this problem, it's easy to parrot First Amendment until a crime is proved. If there is a choice between occasional CP and the First Amendment they will choose the First Amendment which is fine if only they took some time to fight CP. I disagree that these sites should be shut down for posting social media pix of kids. Those posters should be banned. That's not first amendment rights- it's encouraging pedophiles, and the First Amendment doesn't cover having a channel on a monetized forum.
    Just IMHO
  25. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Cross post
    You actually got a lot done here. You brought the problem to their attention and every time you make a complaint they have to review the picture. Coming here and asking for help was a good idea.
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  26. System Member

    as long as it's not a porno pic there is no crime being done. nothing they can do sorry mate not that im agreeing that as bad as those annoying pedo bear shit pics
  27. Nothing can legally be done because it is not CP. Everyone on prime jailbait is clothed or in bikinis and all pictures were taken from open accounts (facebook, snapchat, instagram, etc.). Today's young generation loves the internet and posting their pictures anywhere they can think of and most of the accounts they set up aren't private so anyone can access their pictures and post them on other sites like prime jailbait and teengallery.com their are also cum tribute sites that have pictures of teens and shows men masturbating to the pictures until they ejaculate all over them and again nothing can be done because these pictures are taken from non private accounts. There are also other sites called fake pics and they get the face shots of underage teens and put them on a naked body, for example there are a lot of fake pics of Jojo Siwa and other dance moms teens having sex. As long as those pictures are out there on the internet for everyone to see, someone will always save them for themselves and use them as they wish.


  28. You just described child porn.
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    Expert huh?
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