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Addiction Canada Fraud (not Narconon)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Intelligence, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. DeathHamster Member

    Confirmed by whom? Nobody legit claims a success rate anywhere near that.

    This site is mainly about Scientology and Narconon.

  2. See that’s the problem with haters and online slander and defamers - ALL ANONYMOUS BECAUSE THEY ARE COWARDS
    For us the lead hater Sunil Ram is the BIGGEST COWARD of them all!! - He is so afraid to post his name yet he has been linked to making hundreds of online comments (lies and deceit) he is truly sick and obsessed to be like that but a coward

    ALL COWARDS
    ALL OF YOU AC & JH HATERS ARE COWARDS
    AFRAID TO POST YOUR NAMES BECAUSE YOUR AFRAID TO BE IDENTIFIED AND CALLED OUT FOR WHAT SICK PUPPIES YPU ARE

    BUT NOW ADDICTION CANADA & JOHN HAINES HAVE PROVED ALL THE POSTS TO BE LIES AND DECEIT

    INVESTIGATED AND FALSELY CHARGED BECAUSE OF THESE MADE UP LIES AND NOW ALL PROVEN WRONG AND AUTHORITIES FORCED TO DROP ALL THE CHARGES

    NOT TO WORRY WE WILL POST OUR UPDATE ON SUNIL RAM FOR WE ARE TRYING TO ARRANGE SERVICE OF HIS ORDER TO APPEAR IN COURT FOR CONTEMPT HEARING BUT HE HAS MOVED (got kicked out of his place in Novar) AND CANT BE FOUND BUT OUR INVESTIGATORS WILL GET HIM AND SERVE HIM VERY SOON
  3. DeathHamster Member

    A real CAPS-LOCK crusader.

    But you never answered the question: Who confirmed your claimed success rate?

    Narconon claimed a similar rate, but was forced to testify that it was a made-up number. Then they quietly settled a whole lot of lawsuits for a pile of money (but far less than if the cases had gone to jury trial).
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  4. Well Mr Hamster(can't use your real name?)

    Our numbers are very real, we take 50 random clients that went through our program 6 months previous and then gain at 12 months and see who is still successfully clean and that is how we come up with average 70% - A REAL NUMBER - and we will take on any and all challenges of our figures - ANYTIME!!

    You see Hammy(we will call you that for short) we aren't Scientology and our program is ALL mental health based, we actually since this police investigation had to prove lots and as you can see were successful by having all the charges dropped, they investigated all our centres across Canada, we provided all our professional's credentials that work for us including PHD doctors of psychology and those holding masters and licenses in psychology as either psychologists or psychotherapists and they were undisputed.
    We have since 2015 put all therapists in charge of each person's program while with us and EVERY DAY provide one on one therapy. This is how we have the highest success rates and the best program in Canada......we are the ONLY ones that provide ONLY psychologists or psychotherapists as primary personal workers, not addiction workers who went to school and got a diploma, not even certified addiction counselors as they are not qualified. We do have addiction workers and addiction counselors BUT they are only support workers and provide NO primary therapy.

    YOU SEE we were forced to open up to authorities and to courts ALL our practices.....not just doctors and medical but they went and further questioned our program and our clinical and other employees credentials (All based on the false and slanderous allegations an postings by haters online) but we provided everything and again......were vindicated!

    We think that should well answer your questions Hammy.

  5. https://www.newswire.ca/news-releas...ed-with-mental-health-programs-671649814.html

    Addiction Recovery Network's success rates of 70 to 85% are the highest in the country and most important when it comes to addiction treatment," adds John.


    Haines goes on, "We are the only organization in all Canada that assigns our clients their very own private therapist and provides daily one-on-ones.


  6. EXACTLY!

    Don't forget what was in that article before the quote stated......

    John Haines says, "Most of the rehabilitation centers in Canada are promoting standard 12-step treatment procedures that are facilitated by addiction workers, counselors, addiction social workers or therapists; but they are not qualified to provide mental health therapy. Only Psychologists or Psychotherapists are qualified to provide mental health therapy."

    Addiction Recovery Network only uses Psychologists and Psychotherapists as primary therapists!

    Also don't forget other articles.....

    https://www.newswire.ca/news-releas...on-treatment-program-in-canada-665488343.html

    https://www.newswire.ca/news-releas...-john-haines--addiction-canada-660589863.html

    https://www.newswire.ca/news-releas...ion-care-after-charges-dropped-663487873.html
  7. Narconon is better, we have success rates of 90% + confirmed!
  8. DeathHamster Member

    Those aren't articles, those are press releases.

    One of the testimonials says that they arrived drunk, left sober. Do you do detox as well as recovery? Is it medical detox or cold turkey?

    Good to hear that your therapists are all psychologists or psychotherapists. That means that I should be able to find them listed with the College of Psychologists of Ontario or the College of Registered Psychotherapists of Ontario, yes?

  9. Hammy

    They are articles......all verifiable content as the media release rules held in Canada check article content authenticity so its not fake news or they don't allow it to be published (Had to check out court documents and record to even publish about all charges dropped).......check that out with Cision and associated publishers

    And Yes you can find all of them all listed in Ontario and the other provinces we have centres in.......oh ya opening more .........but that news will all come this year

    And yes we detox medically Hammy........As well before you ask........Yes all our doctors and nurses were checked out during our long investigations by authorities so you can find them on College of Physicians and College of nurses.


    By the way Hammy who are you?.....afraid to post who and where you are?......or you just another anonymous Naysayer that likes to hide who they are while they get free reign on what they say never being held accountable because they are HIDING??
    Probably yes .......LIKE ALL THE OTHER COWARDS ON HERE!!
  10. DeathHamster Member

    Addiction, you obviously want to know who I am so that you can try to threaten or harass me. I'm a critic of Scientology and you're small berries in the bully department compared to them, so I'll do us both a favour, save you the embarrassment and not tell you.
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  11. DeathHamster Member

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/f...isher-sued-by-mother-late-amy-breliant-953238
    Hmm.
  12. If the Teacher, Warren Boyd is a FRAUD, what does that make the Student?
  13. DeathHamster Member

    Keep in mind that's the other side in a messy lawsuit. They're not going to say nice things about him. I wonder how the suit ended up, or if it did yet.

    Still, the other people the reporter talked to wanted to keep their distance. And there's this:
    Another cheap threat bully.
  14. Your too Funny both of you......see Hammy how people like this other anonymous coward who posted right after you (probably Sunil) jump to slander ......just pathetic
    But Hammy I am flattered somewhat that you like all these others have to look me up
    And Hammy "small berries" lol.....take some advice and just stick to Scientology and stay off this thread then
    By the way Warren Boyd has worked with many big name hollywood stars among 100's of others and they haven't complained......but here is one mother who can't accept the fact that ADDICTION KILLS!! and because she died and mom has trouble grieving and needs to blame someone she chooses Boyd who I am quite positive never stuck the needle in that girl's arm that killed her yet mom needs someone to blame!

    And Hammy with things like you saying your all that and you will "do us both a favor" ....... do yourself a favor and just bugger off you nor anyone in your anonymous world would ever or could ever scare me!

    the following pic is just for you Hammy and the anonymous cowards

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  15. https://tvo.org/article/current-aff...e-ontarios-private-addiction-rehab-facilities
    Const. Bev Mackey of the OPP’s health fraud investigation unit, who worked on the earlier charges, says this is a problem.
    “There’s a lack of government oversight in private facilities such as addictions treatment centres which needs to be addressed fast,” she says. “I would urge anyone to report to this detachment when they believe there’s criminal wrongdoing in an independent health facility.”

    Contact Detective Constable:- Bev.Mackey@opp.ca – Health Fraud Investigation Unit - Anti-Rackets Branch - Telephone: 705.329.6463

  16. Is that you Sunil again?

    So yes report to the same detective and branch that laid false trumped up charges against John Haines and Addiction Canada

    The same detective and unit that was forced to drop those charges

    The same detective and unit that is about to be served a record Multi Million dollar law suit for negligence, vexatious prosecution and harassment

    Yes that one
  17. DeathHamster Member

    Are you sure you're not a Scientologist? You'd fit right in.

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  18. NO Hammy I am sure

    I am me and I have haters and haters are exactly like you published in your post......some of them that spend hours and hours trolling and copy pasting on complaint and review sites are just quite pathetic and very sad
    BUT I dont feel even a tiny bit sorry for them but do hope they all get help or whats coming to them!

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    AND OF COURSE.........

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  19. BUT THIS YEAR AND BEYOND WATCH US SHINE AND GROW LARGER THAN EVER

    TO EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING SUMS IT UP!

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  20. DeathHamster Member

    Umm, you're checking our page here.

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  21. YOUR PAGE????
    OK Hammy
    I think last anyone checked it was a page all about me and Addiction Canada so try again

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  22. What about the wages JH?

    Gonna pay those?
  23. No we are not - BUT-
    Maybe read many of the online press releases and news stories or even other posts......... Addiction Canada that was falsely accused and forced to go bankrupt at the start of 2018(which is the reason all the employees were not paid......BECAUSE THEY WERE FORCED TO CLOSE!!!) - Blame the authorities

    BUT

    Employees out wages can apply to the government for employee protection on outstanding wages

    AND

    Addiction Canada and JH multi Mullion Dollar lawsuit against the authorities an government when won or settled we will commit to putting a fund together for all non paid past employees!!

    WOW!!
  24. this is really disturbing. The person(?) arguing for AC is acting like a child. I hope this isn't actually a real employee or management??? I've always been under the impression that for there to be recovery there needs to be some humility. Where is it? :(

    What about the previous wages owing from the co. name prior to AC?

  25. OK Large But NOT, humility?......recovery?.....this thread and the discussions contained have nothing to do with recovery or humility BUT rather standing up to online ridicule and bullying along with making very clear the liars posting such false allegations are cowards. Sometimes you have to stoop to a level for your adversaries to understand and very often its not pretty.

    As for your last sentence - co name prior to AC?, there were no wages owing as to educate you quickly however, you may be referring to subsequent divisional names but all under the corporate head name AC
    BUT if you are referring to any claims made to any labour board or orders prior to the 2015 false allegations.......Any & ALL claims were paid!!

    By the way Large - where is anyone else's humility since any and all accusations of AC or JH were all proven wrong?....we will tell you, bullies or cowards have no humility or shame!
  26. DeathHamster Member

    Trouble sleeping or do you wake up every hour and check?

    https://tonyortega.org/2018/04/26/k...-out-i-want-people-to-know-what-narconon-did/
    Narconon, but it sounds so familiar.
  27. Disambiguation Global Moderator

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  28. Why don't you show your ugly face more and find it , you are after all a fucking mod.
  29. I'll rephrase that to a fucking useless mod
  30. DeathHamster Member

    John Haines (or someone just like him) checks here every few hours, so why doesn't he make himself useful?
  31. do your success rates factor in the suicides and ods?
  32. Maybe one should only look at the list of dead clients:( , and those who died on the witness list that supports THR journalists' claim of threat. Maybe one should ask is it legal for a felon to legally prescribe drugs to his clients as seen in several of the witness reports? Why does one mom having the ability to fight make her the evil one, instead of a person who over 7 months did not provide any services or hold any credentials? Gianna, like most moms accepts that mental illness and drugs can lead to death; but consider no licensed therapist, no NA except with Carrie Fisher, no medical office vists but refills by Boyds' assessment, paid companions sharing drugs (who knows what was in the needle - untested, or who stuck the tiny needle into the large hole), paid companions leaving client alone, paid companions administering prescrption drugs with no knowledge of side effects, adverse effects or contraindication with suboxone, and no plan of care to include management of relapse, and detoxing in motels or emergency management, no 911 til 1200 when dies around 6-9am. Intent or simply too busy playing at Hollywood to care, it is still lives lost from a man that gains it all. Addiction is a mental health disorder that with proper management people can live successful lives just like a diabetic requiring insulin, no sugar and less stress or the stress induced hypertensive patient requiring lisinopril and no salt or stress; all must change lifestyles to live, or they too die; do we blame the diabetic or hypertensive for needing to eat, or having stress in their lives?
    Remembering those clients and witnesses lost in association: Whitney Houston, Corey Haim, River Phoenix, Tyler McLeod, Robert Jirak, Brigette Andrewss, Liza Baroody, Carrie Fisher, Satara S., Chris C., Glenn Quinn, Greg Stevens, Heath Ledger, Adam Goldstein, Amy Breliant, Rick Calamaro, Rick Shultz, Dana Plato, Lisa Kelly, Richard Hillman, Sydney Sloan, Brandon Jacques, Jeff Cullen, Cory Monteith, Curtis Washington, Michael Schwartz Mary P., Chris Farley among so many others. Remember too, the successes seem to follow Boyds' care, not during or immediately afterwards; others provided the recovery - Mel Gibson (meltdown after Boyd), Robert Downey, Jr (Marvel support, and his wife with another rehab after Boyd),
    TRIAL: October 22, 2018 SUPPORT the victims; not the grossly negligent and incompetent interventionist.

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