Alex Gibney: Going Clear

Discussion in 'Media' started by DeathHamster, Nov 24, 2014.

  1. Major anti climax.
    Climax the ant
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  2. rof Member

    Sergeant spurt.
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  3. White Tara Global Moderator

    Maybe so, for the already informed. However I always get a kick out of the reactions of people who never heard of the cults shenanigans before. The wtf Scientology is seriously crazy reaction is priceless.
    More people, more opposition, its all good :D
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  4. Well, it wasn't The Squirrel Busters (did you see the 'Damp SquiBs' episode? :eek: ), or Larry Anderson's recording of Tommy Davis and Jessica Feshbach explaining how he can't get his own money back, or have any contact with any of his friends of 30 years for asking), if it was drama you were after.

    I'd give it a second look - it might just get you where you want to go.
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  5. I suppose, but what a build up! Where are the people who were supposed to be flocking to blogs and message boards? Zilch.

    Oh well, its back to business as usual as Joe and Jane America decide if they want to vote for a Bush or a Clinton.
  6. rof Member

    So anti-climactic we should talk about Bush.

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  7. White Tara Global Moderator

  8. The final cut on this side of the LP is the song LAUGH A LITTLE.

    Feel free to laugh along! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  9. When the missing persons report was filed by Leah Remini didn't the cop who "investigated" her report later turn up at a scientology event???
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  10. RightOn Member

    wow serioulsy? if true, that needs to be out in the open
    AND told to Leah!
  11. RightOn Member

    If this was 5 years ago or more you would have had a serious boner for days
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  12. The Wrong Guy Member

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    Baca runs the county sheriff’s office, but it was the other law enforcement outfit in the city, the Los Angeles Police Department, that recently checked up on a missing-person report about Shelly Miscavige filed by actress Leah Remini on August 5. By Thursday, August 8, the LAPD had closed the case after two detectives met with Shelly and determined that she was OK. When we subsequently asked Lt. Andre Dawsonof the LAPD if Shelly had been alone or with church officials when the detectives questioned her, Dawson told us that was classified information.
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  14. That's the story I was thinking of, Leah's missing persons report was investigate by the LAPD. After 3 days they closed said case. Lt Andre Dawson was asked about the report and said it was classified information. The above picture shows Lt Andre Dawson speaking at an unknown sci event I believe.

    Photo taken at
    At the Church of Scientology Los Angeles Open House Event, held Wednesday December 10, leading Human Rights advocates commemorated the UN International Day of Human Rights.
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  15. RightOn Member

    Holy crap on a cracker!
    Someone needs to tweet this to Leah.
    This is VERY damaging IMO
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  16. RightOn Member

    Fuck the Elfmans. Weren't they also on the "OSA helper" list?
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    John Alex Wood @johnalexwood

    According to the Supreme Court (the highest court in the UK): It's official - Scientology is a religion

    john sweeney ‏@johnsweeneyroar 1 min1 minute ago
    @johnalexwood Wrong, wrong, wrong. That you can get married in a supermarket does not mean Tesco is a religion. #GoingClear may help you.
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  18. The Wrong Guy Member

    This Is One Of The Most Shocking Scientology Stories Not In 'Going Clear'

    By Erin Whitney, Huffington Post

    There is lot of unsettling information when it comes to the Church of Scientology, all of which is explored in Alex Gibney's latest documentary, "Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief." But there's one story that was left out of Gibney's film, which premiered this past Sunday on HBO: Where is Michele "Shelly" Miscavige?

    Miscavige is the wife of the Church's current leader, David Miscavige, and member of the Church's Sea Organization (Sea Org). According to Lawrence Wright's book on which Gibney's film is based, she disappeared in June 2006 and has not been seen publicly seen August 2007. Her official whereabouts are still unknown.

    Continued here:
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  19. The Wrong Guy Member

    HBO's Going Clear Exposes Scientology Tactics, Wealth, And IRS Church Status | Forbes

    Going Clear, from HBO and director Alex Gibney, is a stark expose of the Church of Scientology. The documentary is riveting, and the grip the cult church has on its followers is nothing short of astounding. Whether one finds solace or horror in the sharp tactics used to recruit and keep adherents, the billions of dollars in the Scientology gravy train are impressive.

    That burgeoning wealth is enabled by Scientology’s classification as a tax-exempt church. That topic too is covered in the film, though the film itself is triggering new scrutiny. Viewers may feel less tolerant of the organization than the IRS. Actress Mia Farrow tweeted that, “#Scientology is a thuggish, dangerous, cruel cult. Sign petition to revoke their tax exempt status … #GoingClear.”


    If the IRS decides to take on Scientology for round two, the bout could be noisy. Churches reap a vast array of tax advantages. They even include special rules limiting IRS authority to audit a church. A “church” is not specifically defined in the tax code, but the IRS lays out buzzwords in its tax guide for churches and religious organizations, including these characteristics:
    1. Distinct legal existence;
    2. Recognized creed and form of worship;
    3. Definite and distinct ecclesiastical government;
    4. Formal code of doctrine and discipline;
    5. Distinct religious history;
    6. Membership not associated with any other church or denomination;
    7. Organization of ordained ministers;
    8. Ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed study;
    9. Literature of its own;
    10. Established places of worship;
    11. Regular congregations;
    12. Regular religious services;
    13. Sunday schools for religious instruction of the young; and
    14. Schools for preparing its members.
    The IRS considers all facts and circumstances in assessing whether an organization qualifies. But unlike other exempt organizations, a church need not actually apply for tax exemption. Most churches do, but it is not technically required. Now, 22 years after the IRS gave in, there are new outcries for the IRS to examine Scientology and to end its tax-exempt status.

    It isn’t a far-fetched idea. The Nonprofit Risk Management Center reports that over one hundred 501(c)(3) organizations lose their tax-exempt status each year. The reasons can vary, but in the case of Scientology, many wonder how it could have collected the church status in the first place.
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  20. Religious cloaking video

  21. The Wrong Guy Member

    Recommended Reading: The Local Roots Of Scientology’s David Miscavige | Philebrity

    Like you, we’re also still trying to unpack all of the information presented in Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief. The past day for us has been a trip down the Xenu rabbit hole in which our fascination with the religion has reached a fever pitch of Tom Cruise couch-jumping proportions. (Timely reference, bro!) With that in mind, we encourage you to revisit Daily News reporter Jason Nark‘s 2012 piece on Scientology head honcho David Miscavige‘s local ties, including insights from ex-church member Marty Rathbun that illustrate the dubious ways in which our area may have stuck with Miscavige:

    "Rathbun and some other church defectors say Miscavige is nothing more than a 5-foot-5 bully who has physically attacked underlings for no reason. Rathbun, who once defended Miscavige against such allegations, said that’s the dark side of his “Philly attitude.”

    “He loves to use the Philly banner to play the tough guy,” Rathbun said.

    See Philly? Stuff like this is exactly why you’ll never reach the O.T. III level.

    Here's the 2012 thread about that article:
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  22. Good Forbes article. After identifying the subject matter as "The Church of Scientology," the author does not mindlessly used the words "the Church." Instead he writes "Scientology," except when discussing Scientology's use of the Church identity.

    This kind of article frightens Scientology.
  23. AnyOldName Member

    So glad to see mainstream, non-entertainment, journalists picking up the dialog. Particularly happy when it is the business publications - WSJ, Forbes, etc.

    #6 above in red is interesting. The cult can feign the rest but they are ON RECORD saying you can still be a member of another religion.
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  24. The Wrong Guy Member

    'Going Clear' Raises Questions About Church's Tax-Exemption | Breitbart

    HBO’s ‘Going Clear’ triggers new scrutiny of Scientology’s tax-exempt status | Business Insider

    Can ‘Going Clear’ Do For Scientology’s Tax-Exempt Status What ‘The Jinx’ Did For Robert Durst? | Uproxx

    More: IRS tax
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  25. The Wrong Guy Member

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  26. RightOn Member

    that's right mofos!
    GO GO GO!

    And thanks Wrong Guy AS ALWAYS <3
    for being the Supreme Roolah of Epic Mega Posting!
    I would buy you a shiny and "spangly" trophy like the COS scilons get, but they are oh so gawdy and where would you put it?
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    Uhm, in a dumpster?
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  33. sallysock Member

    Crosspost from esmb:

    View attachment 246547 Re: Going Clear + Scientology Celebs: Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley &amp; Mo

    Leah Remini's husband, Angelo Pagan, just reponded on Twitter and Instagram directly to Bodhi Elfman's &quot;nazi&quot; Tweet.

    Here's a direct link to Angelo Pagan's Instagram page:

    Here's a direct link to Angelo Pagan's Twitter feed:

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  34. RightOn Member

    I wonder if all the scilon celebs getting requests for comments about Going Clear (from the media) will be the most attention they have gotten in a long time :D
    Finally people will actually want o hear what they have to say.
    Wonder if some will think hmmmm. I'm back in the limelight again. This feels good :p
    Of course not including Cruise or Travolta. TC is always in the limelight as a total idiot ever since he jumped on that couch.
    And JT since he hit the spas and now gyms.
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  35. Okay, this was pretty funny (and clearly uses footage from Going Clear):
    Indiana Jones and the Temple of Scientology:
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Hilarious! :)
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  37. Random guy Member

    Always though that Pagan fellow looked like a decent chap, even back when his wife was in.
  38. RightOn Member

    and he has just been added to the Big List!
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  39. Random guy Member


    Attached Files:

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  40. Random guy Member

    Was he ever in?

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