Discussion in 'Media' started by DeathHamster, Nov 24, 2014.
Thanks for this, my own inderpendant observations, Rinder didn't/hasn't started any sort of Hubbah-based therapy crap/indi-shit, (has he?), it'll probably take a decade or two until he comes clean, maybe less, who knows. But I don't hang out there on their blogs with the, no expectations for any of them, exceptions of checking out a post or two, usually pointed out by us here... gah, my fingers aere drunk... But no, do not trust, just more take yer time and gather the information stuff imho. (take a big salt shaker too)
We have seen it before of those who have escaped, sometimes you just cannot let go when there is money to be made, those that don't break away completely, try and salvage what-ever 'usable' Hubbard, its just gah, its really one hell of a mind-fuck.
And..... This is why.
One of the best Tory has done. Love her, hate her, she tells the truth as best she can, oh could we all do so. Out of all the ex's I've listened to, she has the guts few have, to speak out, get her feet on the ground, and keep fucking doing it,, fuck the haters. Young anons should at least take a look and realise what dedication is imho. Scientology isn't just some random target, its a high value one, it is dangerous and deceptive, manipulative, rich, and paranoid, destroying may lives in its wake,
There's lot of fucked up shit in the world, and really, you have to pick your battles, if yer angry, then do your research, there are many people around the world crying out about injustices, but at the same time there are those who are out there helping humanity selflessly,
women equivalent of balls-of-steel, hm.... platinum-_______ ?
I know there be disagreements, but this be my opinion du-jour, igo.
I agree, I much prefer Rinder's writing. Rathbun writes like L. Ron Hubbard.
The Muslim Times: CNN’s Stephanie Elam talks to director Alex Gibney and author Lawrence Wright about their investigative documentary “Going Clear.”
This is a hoot:
Vulture: Alex Gibney on Going Clear, His Scientology Documentary That’s the Talk of Sundance
I am not even halfway done with this video and it is fucking awesome.
Thanks to Tory for posting it and TWG for reposting it.
The following is a good article that does more than just repeat common media talking points, and attempts some analysis. It is particularly good at explaining things to the Twitterati.
The Daily Banter: Scientology Is Helpless Against HBO’s New Documentary, Even If It Doesn’t Think So
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If you’ve seen the tweets from Freedom Media Ethics and wondered A) why you’ve never heard of the organization before, and B) why you’re suddenly getting tweets from a group that has less than 300 followers, the answer is simple: It’s because Freedom Media Ethics is an arm of Scientology and the tweets are sponsored, part of a massive media campaign of P.R. and retaliation against Gibney’s film, which Scientology understands is absolutely a threat to it.
Here’s the thing, though: There’s nothing Scientology can do here. Nothing. It’s fucked. Despite the best efforts of Miscavige’s minions, Gibney’s documentary is going to serve as the final nail in the coffin of an organization that’s been dying for at least the past decade. Former Village Voice editor Tony Ortega, who’s one of the most vocal and thorough critics of Scientology, has chronicled the church’s dwindling numbers and resources for some time now. In addition to posting some of the most insane P.R. stunts the organization has pulled in an effort to make it seem like everything’s coming up roses within its ranks — the jaw-dropping fundraising video set to the very off-key tune of We Built This City and We’re Not Gonna Take It will haunt your brain for a month — Ortega has used sources inside Scientology to confirm that the organization is furious and scared of the blowback from the Gibney documentary. And blowback is guaranteed, either in the form of an outright public rallying cry to have the organization’s tax exempt status removed or, at the very least, more relentless mockery.
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burban cowboy @JCLoeb Jan 28
@FreedomEthics "We do not keep personal information on members to extort, harass or intimidate... Except all people listed in this link."
Back in 2008, Anonymous declared war on Scientology. It was the first time a lot of people had ever heard of Anonymous and anyone who understood how Scientology worked — myself included — reveled in the idea of a shadowy and incorporeal entity taking on a group who, for the first time, was left utterly helpless. Anonymous turned Scientology’s own cloak-and-dagger tactics against it and it was admittedly a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
And to be a part of! xx
tweets here are FRACKING GOLDEN!!!!!
seems to me Mr. Mike Rinder is still a $cientologist and a lover of LConHubbab ... see his latest article promoting the indies center in Israel: http://www. mikerindersblog .org/ dror-center-two-years-on /
Mike Rinder - Scientology Cowards: Their Media Strategy
Rinder cater to all sides. He has publicly stated it's not "all Miscavige's fault".
He don't want to chase the Indies and "under the radar" people off his blog.
There are some related posts in the Sunday Funnies thread, starting here:
Scientology Reps Bully Sundance Going Clear Reviewers | Flavorwire
By Jason Bailey
On January 27, four hours after my review of Going Clear was published on Flavorwire, our editorial director Elizabeth Spiers — not just my boss, but my boss’ boss — received this email from Karin Pouw, Director of Public Affairs for Church of Scientology International.
Church of Scientology Representatives Now Bullying Film Critics | Criticwire
Jason Bailey writes that Flavorwire received an email from the Church of Scientology in response to his review – and he's not the only one.
Going Clear didn't win anything at Sundance:
WTF is wrong with those judges?
Peabody Awards: Alex Gibney on Bullies, Military Torture and Scientology
what’s interesting about this tactic is how neatly it comports with the film’s portrayal of the Church as a hive of shady, paranoid control freaks. The assumption is that they merely have to email film writers, chastise them for not doing something that’s never been done in the history of film criticism, and get them to run their response with unblinking acceptance
Scientology starts at 36:30
Church of Scientology attacks film critics over Going Clear documentary | The Guardian
Various reviewers of Alex Gibney’s documentary, which speaks to defectors from Scientology, have been contacted with emails demanding they include comment from the Church.
The following article is very good.
Tbe Daily Banter: Scientology Is Now Trying To Bully Film Critics Over “Going Clear”
Here's more from the UK:
Church of Scientology targets film critics over new documentary | Telegraph
Alex Gibney's film Going Clear denounced by Church as “filled with bald faced lies”
That quote describes scientology exactly.
The Dish: Clearly A Cult
The following is from a teaser page. One must by the dead tree version of the magazine to get the entire article.
Grazia UK: http://www.graziadaily.co.uk/2014/11/get-the-latest-issue-of-grazia#.VNKNuKPLdW0
The Scandal That’s Rocking Hollywood
Scientology is mentioned almost daily in the tabloids, whether for a latest scandal or allegation. This time though it’s centred on a documentary that has premiered at the Sundance film festival. Featuring Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman and John Travolta, this documentary has made waves, ones that the Church of Scientology has tried extremely hard to stop.
@freedomethics is very entertaining.
NPR's On The Media radio program chimes in with two scathing segments.
Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, & the Prison of Belief
The Scientologists and the Film Critics
There a slough of spam youtube vids advertising "Scientology and the Prison of Belief: Full Movie" with a fake 301+ number of views as soon as they appear.
They point to some url that I don't want to try clicking.
I wonder what is behind this. Is it a run of the mill spammer? is it some kind of hacking scheme to break into people's machines? or something else?
The shortcut link gets me to http:// hayuclick . com/play.php?movie=4257858 BROKEN LINK FOR SAFETY.
If I click play I have to log in.
BRB cleaning computer.
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Without yet investigating, and on pure speculation, based on what you've reported so far, I would say *Yes* to your question.
Mike Rinder: “Don’t Freak Out”
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The Razzline is doing an effective job of “spreading the flap” — letting everyone know about the HBO “hatchet job” that is coming…
Working in league with the church, they are demonstrating remarkable prowess in making this the most well promoted documentary ever to appear on HBO, perhaps on television.
From: Paul Clark [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 6:58 AM
To: TheRazzLine Email Service
Subject: Opinion. Re “Hatchet Jobs” on the church and the most recent movie.
Don’t freak out and don’t be effect every time some self-important jerk does a ‘hatchet job’ on Scientology. I’ve been on lines for nearly 40 years, watching ‘them’ re-cycle the same crap over and over. Some witch hunter gets the villagers all stirred up and they light their torches and march up the mountain. Except instead of finding monsters, they find us; people who are actually interested in them, who grant them beingness, who see their rightness and point it out. Who go about our lives working on bettering things and people. When the villagers can’t resolve what they’ve heard with what they actually find, they put out their torches and go find something else to do.
I have quite a few friends, acquaintances and in-laws who are non-Scientologists. They’ve heard all the same media crap, but since they like me, they don’t bother trying to figure it all out. The ones above 2.0 stick. The ones below 2.0 leave (for some reason, I don’t miss them). I have one good friend who has gone from absolute white-faced shock at finding out I was a Scientologist, to describing me to others as “highly intellectual” (which I find amusing as hell). I have another friend who is working on his second PhD dissertation, who told me I’m the only one he can discuss any topic with. It’s all because of what I’ve learned from LRH.
The point is, Don’t sweat it when these media attacks happen. When a bully can’t make you run, he finds someone else that will.
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