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Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

Discussion in 'Fair Game Reports and Personal Experiences' started by _You_, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. _You_ Member

    Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    I have a google alert for "Mario Majorski"aka Epic Swords Guy.

    Today it turned up this amazing story of Willhaven720 on Sherdog.

    I am an ex-Scientologist. (LONG read) - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

    Sherdog is the 60th largest forum in the world with 180+K members. It is devoted to Mixed Martial Arts.

    What is amazing about this is it is the first time I have seen an ex tell his story on a forum outside the world of Chanology.

    He was inducted into the Sea Org as a teenager, and lives in Central CA. As his story unfolds scilon Randy Maviaux chimes in.

    Willhaven720 is awesome and articulate. He does a great job of educating the sherdoggers, like 16Days who writes:

    Here is the beginning of Willhaven720's first post:

  2. auchraw Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    If your eyes can stand tiny white print on a black ground this is not tl;dr, full of facts; most of them familiar but we can never have too many witnesses and this is a good one.

    How did it take Google from May 2008 to find it?
  3. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    well, go on, reach out to him.
    Provide him with exscn url and such.
  4. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Dojos have been used to recruit cult members (often not scientology). Might be that the teacher - student relationship prepares practionners for some form of indoctrination.
  5. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Forum in question is absolutely loaded wih channers and anons, it is obvious from teh postibgs that everyone is well aware of chanology.

    I'd go so far as to say that what you are looking at here is a very successful attempt at viraly spreading our message.
  6. Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Thanks OP. Nobody mentioned this thread over at ESMB.
  7. XenuPhobic Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    And that thread just took a sad turn:

  8. Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    RIP Uncle Bob
  9. amaX Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Damn.

    I know we've all read the horror stories time after time, but damn.

    Sometimes it just hits you again: Uncle Bob's family broke up because of the cult. Because of the cult. The money-grubbing, blood-sucking, ruin-your-life cult.

    Uncle Bob sounds like a great dad and a really cool guy. I'm very sorry to hear he took his own life.

    Rest in peace, Uncle Bob.
  10. Django Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Fuckin' A THIS!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^
  11. m.a.patton Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    This thread is amazing!

    M.A. Patton
  12. Yoni Alter Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    The last page is like a punch in the gut.
  13. m.a.patton Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Oh yes it is.

    M.A. Patton
  14. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    [strike]Mike Martin aka Willhaven (the name of his band) has a Myspace spage with photos, but he hasn't accessed it since July. He identifies himself as a Scientologist. He's also a semi-pro boxer.

    He also has a Wiki page:

    MySpace - The Loose Cannon - 99 - Male - SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA - myspace.com/mikewillhaven

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Martin_(Will_Haven)

    Will Haven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [/strike]


    [mod]The willhaven WWP user claims you have the wrong guy, so it's probably safe to assume so.[/mod]
  15. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    LOL clam shows up on page 4 to defend the cult...fast work eh?

  16. i'mglib Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Wow.
    I have heard many discussions with heavily indoctrinated Scientologists before (Tory is one of the best at debating) but Willhaven is a genius. I have never seen someone dismantle the fallacies like this. It's poetry.
  17. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    We need to get him here.
  18. MarlieK Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    No. We suck on warm cuddlies. Better to direct him to sites like Ex Scientologist Message Board or the Ex Sea Org forums (since he qualifies as Ex Sea Org).
  19. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    That post is amazing. Gutsy effort to come out, and he got due respect from sherdoggers.

    Maxim article = innoculation

    Also "Dude, that's fucking egregious." is going straight to the sig.
  20. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Sensational.
  21. MarlieK Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Hey Willhaven720,
    Now that you have found this thread I want to point out a couple of resources for you.

    One is the Ex Scientology Message board forums. If you want you can sign up there anonymously.

    Ex Scientologist Message Board

    The other is a forum just for former Sea Org members.

    XSO : XSO
    Ex-Sea Org Helpline. Reclaim your Life. The Sea Org, Scientology, Miscavige, OSA, and Anonymous, what it means to you.
    1-866-XSEAORG

    Those to forums will be far more friendly than we will be here. Nothing personal, but we do tend to have to be a little bit hard core to go up against Scientology.

    Also, several scientologists have begun lawsuits against the cult.

    Lawrence Wallersheim won a multimillion dollar lawsuit against the cult and was paid 9.2 million dollars for their abuses against him.


    All of those documents Scientology made you sign aren't as bullet proof as you think. They are just designed to make you give up before even trying.

    Oh, and if we get our way, you whole family will be out of Scientology when we are done.
  22. RightOn Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    wow amazing thread.
    A little hard on the eyes, to say the least
    So can we add him to the list???
    He is not listed! Will add him!
  23. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    I think he'll be fine.
  24. CantPickaName Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    from that thread

  25. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    He's only just discovered the Beghe vids.

    Wait til he finds Aaron Saxton!
  26. _You_ Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    What? So he can be trolled like Stephen McBride by a small but very vocal bunch of retarts? You've got to be fucking kidding.
  27. CantPickaName Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    yeah this...thats what i was thinkin
  28. thefatman Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Agreed, ESMB is a much better idea.

    Also, this guy has epic balls of steel.
  29. CantPickaName Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    i will prolly catch shit for this but when i ran a really rough forum we had newbs quit because of the culture shock..me and the other mods were wondering if we should set up a probation forum...much stricter when it came to trolling...then after they posted X amount of times or X amount of days they could go to "Gen pop"
  30. willhaven720 Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Woah. That's not me but... I'm kind of freaked out that it seems like it could be. lmao

    And sensitive lads don't have 1500 posts on sherdog. I came here for war. As hardcore as you like. They fucked up the wrong family.

    Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm sorry I didn't jump over here sooner. I wanted so badly to be with you all on the streets in 08. It straight up brought a tear to my eye. I was just trying to focus on life. My own life. But I see now that I'll never have peace until they are finished.

    Let's do this.
  31. XenuPhobic Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum


    Welcome, man! Always good to have someone who witnessed this and was effected by this on our side. My condolences on your uncle.

    On a positive note, the shitstorm has already wellllllll begun!
  32. CantPickaName Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    awesome and welcome

    if its really who you say
  33. XenuPhobic Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Also, if you have just seen the Jason Beghe interviews, it's obvious that there is a ton you've missed out on? What coverage have you seen?

    Have you seen the St. Pete times piece: Scientology: The truth rundown | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times ? Read/heard about Marc Headley? Paul Haggis? Marty Rathbun? The situation in Australia?
  34. willhaven720 Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Ask me anything about MMA and you will know.

    P.S. I just posted a message in that sherdog thread, letting you know I am not in the band.
  35. Zak McKracken Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    ^this

    I'm not too familiar with sherdog,
    but judging from the variety of people who would be attracted to a
    'mixed martial arts forum', I'm guessing its not much of a hugbox.

    Life is important. You made a sound choice in directing your resources at the time;
    picking your own battles is key to cleaning them up effectively.
    Too many things happening in this world to focus on everything all at once everywhere, but

    Let's.

    (welcome) :)
  36. LocalSP Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Welcome willhaven and if you have read the whole thread you'll see some here don't think we can be the warm cuddly types. Well a big hug to ya...in a manly way of course.
  37. XenuPhobic Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    your-a-fag.jpg
  38. LocalSP Member

    Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    and here you post this crap just after you sucked me off?
  39. TinyDancer Member

    Mods were talking about this the other day. Difficulty is that it would piss off the internet-savvy pretty quickly.

    SO glad you made it here, willhaven720. And so glad you made it out of the CoS intact.

    Has anyone introduced you yet to former CMO, Aaron Saxton? YouTube - aaronsaxton1's Channel

    If you found Beghe powerful...
  40. Re: Amazing: Willhaven720's story on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forum

    Hi Will. Thanks for burning out my eyeballs reading your entire thread at Sherdog. Glad you're posting here at WWP where the only thing I have to worry about running into is midget porn and mankini's. And that orange-related photo that I pray never escapes it's confines in the Dome. But seriously, thank you for speaking out. That's awesome. I look forward to following your adventures.

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