Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

Rihan · Sep 10, 2008

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i cant check with the vids, but in my memory graham used other phrasings (but there he speaks german if i get it up...).
do not know, will check when i am at home. but the content is 100% what he said.

Lady.Nonymous · Sep 10, 2008

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Rihan;562378 said:

i cant check with the vids, but in my memory graham used other phrasings (but there he speaks german if i get it up...).
do not know, will check when i am at home. but the content is 100% what he said.

Erm.. Lol wut? I was there the whole time (behind the cam). You got there when this perticular interview was over, so how can you know what he said then?

Spathi · Sep 10, 2008

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censor;551758 said:

Larry Brennan was first

Must have been talking about Miscaviage.

UnrepentantHarlequin · Sep 10, 2008

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Two and two really does make four.

Joshua went to visit Katie at the theater...while her babysitter was in Germany trying to harrass Graham.

The Cult is shorthanded.

A-non-non-anon · Sep 10, 2008

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Lady.Nonymous;562561 said:

Erm.. Lol wut? I was there the whole time (behind the cam). You got there when this perticular interview was over, so how can you know what he said then?

YOU WERE NOT THERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT INTERVIEW!!!!

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

celtg · Sep 10, 2008

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how bout Larry's and Jason's speeches?

Anonymoux · Sep 10, 2008

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standing by & bumping for Beghe and Brennan

(great stuff, thanks so much)

anon0004 · Sep 10, 2008

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As long as Larry and Jasons speeches are not up, I try to entertain you with funny Raid reporting from Hambrug the day after the Conferene- September 5th

YouTube - International Anonymous Raid Scientology Hamburg

LurkingObesity · Sep 11, 2008

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might be a good idea to update the roster in the OP by linking to each speaker's respective recap thread. Just a thought.

Ackerland · Sep 11, 2008

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good idea, i'll get on it right away.

Anonymeep · Sep 11, 2008

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I can't keep silent any longer.

*goes down on one knee*

Anonymous, I am madly, deeply in love with you. With your guts, with your lulz, with your endless energy and initiatives. I love your wit, and the way you eat your cake. I spend hours at my computer, breathlessly following your adventures. Anonymous, will you please marry me?

Lorelei · Sep 12, 2008

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Anonymeep;563534 said:

Anonymous, I am madly, deeply in love with you. With your guts, with your lulz, with your endless energy and initiatives. I love your wit, and the way you eat your cake. I spend hours at my computer, breathlessly following your adventures. Anonymous, will you please marry me?

ITT: WIN, EPIC WIN, enturbulation, orgasms, informationz :text:, vidz, pix, Anonymous delivering :guyfawkes:, Sci FAIL :hooray:, w00ts, moar WIN, marriage proposals :flowers: and secret admirers revealed! :cake2:

I love this thread. :hc:

14G0 · Sep 12, 2008

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Nevah mind.

anon0004 · Sep 13, 2008

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AboutScientology posted the Jason Beghe Speech

Here you go --->

YouTube - (1/4) Jason Beghe talks about Scientology

YouTube - (2/4) Jason Beghe talks about Scientology

YouTube - (3/4) Jason Beghe talks about Scientology

YouTube - (4/4) Jason Beghe talks about Scientology

Plups · Sep 13, 2008

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Jason made some excellent points. The 30,000 e-meter "indicator", for one, and the Vioxx analogy for another.

I kept wondering what the Hamburg scientologists who were present were thinking, as he talked through all the points of cognitive dissonance.

Anonymoux · Sep 13, 2008

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Thanks to all Hamburgers and friends who worked so hard to bring these messages to us and around the world.

Jason proves that the act of joining scientology does not reflect a lack of intelligence. It reflects a need for control: a need to be certain, and that is what is for sale. What happens after that is a function of mind-control and personality.

Beghe is so bright and so creative and so AWESOME. To all the other BRAVE and HONORABLE people who spoke out at this conference and who speak out everyday, WE THANK YOU. To those who wait in fear and silence, we support you. Ursula: You are changing the world.

This is MUST WATCH.
I am astonished.

Jason: We love you and need to see you soon in a serious piece of drama (or three). Have your agent contact me. You are the one who should be in an Arthur Miller play now on Broadway and/or a blockbuster opening on Hollywood Blvd. Not one single "motherfucker"---you are able to judge your audience with brilliance. Props to your mother.

004: You are a citizen of the world.
Best to you all.

((Time to get over to Big Blue to meet Anon and those other wildcats like AGP, Agent Orange, Hap, and the other bad asses
that get tailed and threatened and who YELL when necessary. BUT GUESS WHAT MOXON: fuck you! We are not scions and we do what we want. When you say STOP we say GO.))

PS/edit: And thanks 2 U 2, jigsaw!

ClearwaterAnon · Sep 13, 2008

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Beghe FTW!

Part 4 at 3:30 :headbang:

Wish the videog had caught the audience applauding after that comment

Telling numbers are telling:
25,000 ex-SeaOrg who left the cult
4,000 to 8,000 currently in the SeaOrg.

JigsawPsyche · Sep 13, 2008

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Jason Beghe Transcript:

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14 years. I've been out for a little over a year, maybe a year and a half. I just wanna say one thing about Marc Headley – I could say a lot of things. I'm honored to be on the same stage as this guy; and one of the things that he ah, he talked about having no credit, and all these strikes were against him because he had no history and all that. I can say that in about 3 years he started a multi-million dollar company. He's doin' just fine. So, this is a real man in my opinion.

I was very happy and honored to be invited here by Frau Caberta and Munich – I mean Hamburg, excuse me. I kept thinking about what I was gonna say and I really didn't know what to talk about, and I – even last night I thought “oh okay maybe I'll talk about that”, and I didn't write a speech or anything. So, but then I started to think about it, and I - what I wanna talk about today is why I think Scientology is dangerous; some examples. Cause, just as Larry said, I mean, you can go on and on and on for days and days talking about Scientology; so I wanna try and hopefully be specific in a way that's useful to people in Government. Cause as far as I understand, one of the major purposes of the Government is to protect the people; and, Scientology is, in my opinion, quite dangerous. Its not Darfur, but it is our own little slice of hell.

An interesting thing for me is that the word “Scientology” - per L Ron Hubbard – he describes it many, many, many times. It's defined by him simply as “knowing how to know”; and it occurred to me today that that's an interesting thing; because what Scientology is selling – one of the major things that they sell to get people to buy their services is certainty. “You will have certainty in your life”, which is very seductive. People want to know. People wanna know. Its difficult I think, for people to wonder, to not know. And so they're seduced by this certainty. But when you think about it, it can be quite dangerous. There was a wise man who said “He who thinks he knows doesn't know. He knows he doesn't know, knows.” And so if you have certainty, which is what happens with a Scientologist – they know they're right; and what's dictated to them in this religion comes from the “scriptures” from L Ron Hubbard, and now David Miscavige. So, in other words what's the right thing and what's true is told to them for the only faith.

I was very very trained in Scientology and I studied it deeply. The only faith that I could come across – the only faith in this “religion” is that if L Ron Hubbard says its true, then it is true. So you get these people with certainty. They know. And what they're operating on is what L Ron Hubbard said. So, part of what L Ron Hubbard is telling these people is that “we are the only hope for mankind, for this planet – indeed this sector of the galaxy” - whatever that means – is on a “precipitous fall to our terrible destruction” that makes Dante's inner circle of hell look like a picnic. Okay? So, if those are the stakes and you now know that you're the only hope for mankind, what are you willing to do to save these people? Because, Scientologists - people who get involved in Scientology, from my experience are some of the most decent, generous people you can ever meet. Think about somebody like Larry or Marc, who joined the Sea Organization. I mean, what kind of a person is it that's willing to sign a 1 billion year contract, and spend year after year after year for no pay, no decent food and no sleep; to help people like me move up the bridge to total freedom - which is what Scientology is made up of. Its basically a series of steps called “the bridge to total freedom.” and its the one “route” - the only route, according to Hubbard - to free man from this trap; and save mankind from certain destruction.

So when you have this certainty, you understand, it helps to justify what some of the people are wiling to do. Does that make sense? So, I thought another interesting point that maybe would be useful to people in Government; and maybe even particularly in Germany here is that a concept in Scientology that, per Hubbard, when you reach a state called the state of “clear” In Scientology, you're no longer a Homo Sapien. Do you understand? You're now called a “Homo Novis.” And if you think about that, its really really dangerous. I mean, if calls to mind, for me, the whole concept of Übermensch. Its an über über über mensch. You're not even – its the difference between a homo erectus and a homo sapien. You're now a “homo novis.” So, you might be friendly with the homo sapiens, but its almost like a pet. It's a cute thing, but they're just an unenlightened creature that doesn't understand; and you see how now this distances you from others? And you people in government, be assured that a Scientologist can be very charming he can be very nice. As I said, they're very decent people; but they do know that they are more evolved than you; that they're the only ones who understand the way it really is. And they are the “only hope”; so would they be willing to lie and mislead you? I mean, if you're the only hope for mankind, its justifiable to kill somebody, to go to any length to save the group. Because they operate on a concept also of “What is the greatest good?” and built into that concept of “What is the greatest good?” is that its definitely Scientology. Because we're talking about saving the planet, and these poor homo sapiens walking around don't get it. So we have to come in and take care of them. And if people get hurt along the way, its in the name of Scientology which is the only hope we have. So you see why these concepts are dangerous.

Now this also leads to something else for me, that is, its really awful. It's probably one of the main reasons I'm here today. Because I”m an unlikely person here, but one of the things that really gets me – and I'm not even a victim of it – too bad! - is this whole concept that Marc alluded to called “Disconnection.” And now you understand – let me ask you something – its just a rhetorical question

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Can any of you people, can any of you. If I told you – or your religion. Or whatever you think is most important philosophically. If it dictated to you that right now, from this moment forward, you will never communicate with your child. Your wife, your husband, your brother, your sister, your best friend. Can you imagine that? Would you ever accept that? Can you think that you would ever accept that? So we think about that, and people talk about “disconnection” right? I must imagine that somewhere in your minds you think “I would never do that!” I assure you that any Scientologist, the day before he was a Scientologist, would never consider that. I for one, now, I can't imagine. My children. Are you crazy? There's no way! So that leads me to think about something is that, for me to do that – and now I'm no expert on psychology or psychiatry or the mind, or anything. So I don't know what brainwashing is, really. and the Scientologists will argue it. Or mind control. There's something that's gotta be done to me, for me to make that leap. Just as you know it would be for you. Yet thousands and thousands of Scientologists do it like that. Indeed when I left the church I was very popular, and I never – I was not a loud, disaffected person. But one fine day, after a long story which I wont bore you with now, I realized that I couldn't – I couldn't keep my own personal integrity and continue to be part of, or support the Organization. I said, “You know, I'm gonna slip out the door guys”, basically. Every single person to who was a associated with me was contacted. I called people – I mean I never said goodbye. There was one girl who had found out who was very close to my wife, you know, and she sobbed for hours apologetically. You know “I just can't leave” you know? “I need it for my kids” she was saying, and stuff like that, you know? I can't tell her how to lead her life.

And so, again, back to you government people; your job is to protect the common wheel. Something's happening There's too much circumstantial evidence. Like that ain't right. You know? So, I mean just imagine if you're a catholic. I don't wanna belabor the point – but you're a catholic and something terrible happens in your life. Your child dies or whatever, and you just feel like there must be no God. You've heard stories like this, and you say “I'm gonna leave the church” you know, or whatever you know, and you stop being a practicing catholic. I'm not saying its right or its wrong. It might screw up Christmas dinner with mom and dad, but I don't think mom and dad would say you know, they were to move or not return your call. Me? I had a four year old son at the time when I left, and I mean – he was kicked out of school! Its nothing terrible; I didn't lose a family member, but its an interesting thing t have a four year old come home and “why can't I see this kid? Why can't I see him?” His only friends you know? Luckily he's a social guy and he's doing fine now. He's made a lot of friends, but that ain't a church to me. That's ah – but you see these things get justified for the greatest good. You see how it all kinda goes together. Cause its hard to understand, so what I wanna do is try to make people understand. Cause a lot of people say “How could this? how? how? how?” I don't quite know. I'm not an expert. But something happened. Even now, you know, its interesting. You think “oh, Jason woke up! He's out!” yeah! I woke up and I got out. But its no – and I don't normally talk about my own personal thing but just to illustrate – I'm doing relatively well, but its – the best way I can equate it, its like if you were hypnotized. So, to some degree I came up. Its like I woke up like you wake up in the morning you know? And it took me about, I'd say 5, 6 months to maybe get out of bed, but you know, I'm just now maybe making the coffee. I'm not quite there yet. Cause nobody snapped their fingers and said “You know, when I snap my fingers and say 'chicken' you're no longer gonna be chicken. Do you understand?” Alright, so that – those are some things that I think are dangerous.

Here's some more things that I think are dangerous that I hope can be useful that I can talk about, besides grievous things that they were talking about. Everybody knows that Scientology costs of lot of money. Its a lot of money and that also affects the society. When you've got people paying a lot of money thats not taxable, of course. Okay? Part of this that's hidden that has become apparent to me; one of the things that led to my leaving, is that I realized that is a rip off. Is that a word that communicates? Okay, good! So, a rip off. In other words, David Miscavige and the executive hierarchy are aware that they're ripping people off; and I can give you examples, okay? So, here's one: There's a course – this is what I've learned since I've been out – called “Key to life: Life Orientation course”. Its two courses that go together and its supposed to make you understand life and know what you're real purpose in life is. That's the end product that they sell. Its a very expensive course, okay? And they've been selling you this thing and telling you that its imperative that you do it if you wanna really make your correct steps on the bridge to total freedom okay? Now, what I've learned since I've gotten out, is that, for 10 years, really literally, since its been released, they were aware that the whole thing was screwed up and that it didn't work. But they continued to not only have it available but to push it upon people. While behind the scenes they're working feverishly to learn how to fix it. And guess what will happen when its fixed? They'll tell everybody – that not only the ones who did it, they'll have a new push “The Key to Life” is re-released perfectly and so all you other people who've already done it you should do it again. You don't get it – not for free, and that's brainwashing too! Cause the other people will say “Oh goody! Cause I always had a problem with my “key to life”. Its sad!

Okay there's many, many examples of this. There's this thing that came out – when did the Golden age of Tech. come out? 1996 they came out with this thing - “The Golden age of Tech”. In other words, everything had been going wrong. Anything that had been going wrong in Scientology was because “the tech”, which is the scriptures, the “meat and potatoes” of Scientology; the “how it is done” was being misapplied and thanks to David Miscavige he's figured the whole thing out and now you have to do this Golden age of Tech.

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Okay? So I had to – I was a trained Scientologist. I was told I had to redo everything. I had to re-buy the thing. I had just finished. Yeah, and redo it again! You have to do it! Okay? And its like “okaaaay”, you know? and feel – and they resell the thing with a straight face. And the Scientologist's do it over. I mean, that's crazy! Now, when I had bought my training package, they were well on the way to getting ready to release the Golden age of Tech; and they let me buy the thing, encouraged me to do it, just in time so they could do it. That's a rip off! That's unethical. And they claim to be “the most ethical group on the planet”. Thats criminal. Or misleading. To me, its criminal. I mean its awful! Just now, recently they have the “Basics books” re-released. This is...how many books? Maybe 20 books? 15 books? Something like that. These are these basics books apparently written by L Ron Hubbard, and compiled by people at Golden Era Productions. Okay. Its, you know, maybe 1,000 pages, maybe 1,500 pages. Big type, small pages. Okay? There's some interesting data there; if you like that stuff that's fine. Okay? They changed a few things in these books, okay? Now, they're telling every Scientologist that they must buy these books again. You know how much they charge? $3,000!. $3,000 for 20 books like this. That's crazy! And to me, as I think about it, again, I think that's an indication of mind control or whatever you wanna call it. Cause they do it! Not only do they do it, they help sell them! And they're all enthusiastic about it and “this is great!” which is another interesting thing, you know? As a Scientologist, this is in my humble opinion, the tacit responsibility of a Scientologist is to lie. Because you are a “Homo Novis” you're an example; and of course you still have problems and issues, but you're not supposed to because you're “clear”, you're “OT”. You understand?

And so these people now when they get these little - “Oh the books are re-released!” and David Miscavige assures you that's the reason for this little problem that maybe you're having. they secretly go “ahhh! good!” and it just leads to more of the same. Because he's changed a sentence here, a little this, a little, that; which also enables them to keep the copyright, incidentally. Which I – interesting. Here's something kinda interesting if we look at this historically; and one of the last things I did as a practicing Scientologist was there was a – I had long since said “I'm not going into session” - and they kept saying “Oh, come on we'll take you into session for free.” I said “Man you guys are making me worse!” I said “I wouldn't go into session if you paid me $1,000 an hour.” that's how bad it was. Okay? And I could have used $1,000 and hour, let me tell ya. But I just said “No mas, I cannot do it!” Okay? So they said they had these things called the LRH – L Ron Hubbard – Congresses that have been released. So these are symposiums given by L Ron Hubbard, from 1956 I think it was, maybe '52.... somewhere around there through maybe '68 – up until the St. Hill special briefing course right? Anyway, its maybe about 20 lecture seres. 20 lecture series alright?

So I thought “You know what? I got a new dog; he needs to be trained, I'll take a little tape recorder and I'll go out on a walk and I'll walk my dog every morning, I'll listen to a couple of tapes and I'll get in shape.” So I got through these tapes pretty fast, and this of course; the idea was to get people to connect with L Ron Hubbard - which they call “source” - which is very interesting. He's “source”. That's a word to take a look at. That's part of the “tech” too. But at any rate, I listened to these lectures, these series of lectures, and the first series of lectures is “Welcome!” and he's very gregarious and charming, and he's basically: “the great news is, everybody, I finally got the new state of “clear” tapped! I know how to deliver a clear like this! And here's all you have to do.” and so I know that this new thing was used to disseminate selling Scientology because we can now deliver the state of “clear”. Now, with a straight face – I can tell you this – that every series of lectures delivered by this man for the next 10 or 12, 15 years, was “Guess what everybody! I've got it. I've got the state of “clear” tapped.” It was same thing. And I was like “What the hell? This is crazy! They've been doin' this since the first day! And we've been buying it!”

I remember there was a thing David Miscavige did that – cause at this point I was starting to get like -
“I can't take this! You guys are making me” - they had this thing – the new part of the Golden age of Tech. They had this thing called a “Security Check” okay? Which is basically where you are interrogated to make sure you don't have any crimes in order to be enabled to receive high level auditing or access to the OT levels. Okay? And they were asking me these questions and it was going on and on, and I know when thinks are making me worse. I'm happy to get off a peccadillo. I don't have anything to hide. But when its asked all different directions and its taking this, and its costing $50,000, at a certain point, me!, and I was very uncommon for Scientologists. Most of them were just takin' it. And everybody was unhappy and it was - I'm sure the statistics were crashing. Me? I said “Listen; when L Ron Hubbard died they said he went off to Target 2 to start – which would be a new planet. To clear that planet.” I said to the people, to the executives of Scientology when they told me I had to buy more, I said “I'm not doing anymore auditing.” I said “I don't care if L Ron Hubbard comes back from Target 2 and tells me I gotta do it, but I'm not doing it.” and I did not receive auditing for probably a year and a half. And of course I was becoming disaffected.

Let me tell you something.Finally, about a year and a half later, David Miscavige goes on a maiden voyage, which is where they go on the ship in the Caribbean, and he has this great release. And so they did a big event. I wasn't there obviously, because, I mean, I was maybe doing a little study and just kinda licking my wounds at this point. And I say uh – and they said “Jason! Jason! You gotta come in! You gotta see this thing it's just for you! You're gonna love this!” and I see David Miscavige , and he says with a broad smile and a puffy chest, he says “I have great news! All those sec. checks, we were wrong! Arbitraries are canceled! Arbitraries are canceled!” he's declaring. And they're looking looking at me like “Jason!”; and the whole crowd gets up and there's clapping and they're going crazy like “Oh goody!” Cause I get to save money and now I”m not gonna be all messed up in my head and maybe I can get some gains in Scientology; and this is this big announcement and they're looking at me and I”m going “huh”. I said “Man you make a mistake that makes you probably $250 million and that's how you handle it? Like you're some kind of great guy? To finally admit?” And these Scientologist's are up there giving him a standing ovation and crying tears of joy! Something's wrong!

So I look at this as I talk to I start to realize. See, that's probably why I'm out and they're in. Its that for some reason, I don't know why, you know I just started to wake up. Let me tell you something. That process took 10 years – at about 6, $800,000. Okay? So there you go. Here's another thought I had. I don't know, I'm not a legal mind or anything like that and I”m just gonna give this to you in closing as something that may be useful.

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an avenue; for government, law, all that kinda stuff. There's a lot of controversy. I think everybody knows about how many Scientologist's there really are. I mean, I'm sure that they include me as a Scientologist, and my little son. Because – because when he was born, David Miscavige gave him a lifetime membership as one of the gifts he sent him, and I still get mail. So, perhaps they consider me still of their number. I'm not sure. Its an interesting thing, but there's certain ways that you can actually determine – or get an idea. One, I was talking to Marc on the plane, he gave me a very good barometer that one could use. They release – you know that everybody uses an “E-Meter” - Electro Psycho meter. In Scientology, any good Scientologist is supposed to, not only have one, but two E-Meter's; and when they have a new product, all the old products are outdated and worthless. When they came out with the new E-Meter, they made about 30,000 of them. Okay? They still haven't gotten rid of all of them. Now, I don't think every Scientologist bought 2, and they certainly – but they also have to give a bunch to the Organizations to audit with. Okay? 30,000! The fastest growing religion on the planet? Okay?

Here's another indication: a friend of mine was working up lines – its Headley! I get all my information from Headley - guys was up lines it was Headley – and he was responsible for putting together all the events. Every year Scientology puts on these events. L Ron Hubbard's birthday. Its this big extravaganza where they get to get the public pumped up and feed them a bunch of misleading information about how well Scientology's doing; including things like “we never lose a law case or anything like that”, and “the statistics are going through the roof.”Incidentally, since the Golden age of Tech., the statistics are crashing. Crashing, okay? And that's very – its amazing. Anyway, no Scientologist should ever know that information. Because if the statistics are crashing, that means that the top management is suppressive. In other words, David Miscavige. So they'll never know this, okay?

At any rate, he told me that they spent $400,000 to promote an event; and they promote, they promote, they promote. And I'm telling you, as a public in Scientology, when there's an event coming: “are you comin' to the event?” - and it gets like “oh, man!”. There's like 2,3 weeks where its like “sheesh!” You see a guy comin' up to you and its like “Yeah! I'm comin' to the event.” Just “yeah.” okay? Its like you're really pressured to go to these events. The last event, that cost them $400,000 to promote, and they do their own promotion, so its not like its expensive for them; thats a LOT of promotion when you're paying people 36c an hour, okay? You have all the machines paint them up all your fliers and whatnot. 10,000 people showed up. Worldwide. 10,000 people! $400 a person, they paid; and 10,000 people.

Now, its interesting, when Anonymous had their first protest worldwide, without even any organization at all, they had 10,000 people.

Listen here's the last little point on that thing: its been tracked and figured out, that in the Sea Organization, which is the most elite group. You know, a lot of people get into Scientology – “Oh you know, maybe I heard that Tom Cruise did it; let me try a course.” People who join the Sea Org. you know, I'm talking about the commitment that they make is extreme and its a particular – as L Ron Hubbard said – breed of cat, that would be the kind of person that's willing to make this kind of a commitment. So, they're really serious people. They're signing a 1 billion year contract. So, they are saying, not only will I serve under these conditions to the day I die,; when I come back next lifetime and the one after that, and the one after that, and the one after that; I will come to help forward the purposes of Scientology. That's a hell of a commitment. There are 25,000 ex Sea Org. members. There are now, in the Sea Organization, 4 to 8,000. Its hard to get the number. So that means that the statistic or the most hardcore Scientologists, is that 5 out of 6, leave. Okay? When you get on these websites like Clambake, or these people who are Anonymous, but were actually – used to be in the Sea Org, and they've contacted me in Private Messages – and they are scarred and hurt and scared. They can't stand up and say “yeah, my name is Bill, and I don't believe in Scientology and here's why”. They can't say that. They don't have that luxury. Because they're afraid they'll never see their daughter. So they have to kind of tow the line. Or, if they routed out of the Sea Org., in the way that the Sea Org. permits, you to leave, for whatever reason; let's say you refuse to have the abortion, you have to sign an affidavit saying – and its filmed – you have to sign an affidavit that, every time you say something negative about Scientology, you have to pay $50,000.

So, these are the things that inhibit these people from speaking up. I – that's a whole other subject. I mean that's just wrong. You can't - that's not right. You can't – that's controlling their mind even after they're out. Okay? So here are these hardcore Scientologist's; and I was thinking about something, I dunno, there's a drug that was recently in the news. I don't know if it was here in Europe as well, but there was this drug Vioxx. You aware of Vioxx? Okay, so Vioxx was this drug that was supposed to help you with high blood pressure or something like that; and... what's that? Against pain? So anyway, it was giving - 1 people out of 1,000 it was giving a heart attack – and then something like; of the people who got the heart attack – 3 out of 10 were actually having serious heart attacks. Some even dying. Okay? So, 1 out of 1,000; and in that, some died, okay? And these people were made to pull this off the market; and it was shown that these people probably, actually knew about this data, and hid it from the public because it was something that was successful for them financially.

Now that's a criminal activity. Its despicable. Now you look at , I'm not saying – I don't know – there's people who say Scientology kills people; there's circumstantial evidence that it does. But when you have 5 out of 6 people leaving; and these are people who are more gung-ho. So, for them to leave, something really bad had to happen; and we had to see a couple of examples here. Larry didn't even tell you the personal reason – what made him wake up and really go, but its as bad as Marc's and it'll make you cry, okay? There are 25,000 stories like that. Let's give 'em a bunch that aren't. But still, the statistics are such that maybe we should pull this thing off the market, you know? And the other thing is – if not “pull it off the market”, do you know what a black box warning is? This is something that Scientology brags about. Case they're all against these Psych. drugs, because they're dangerous and they lobby Washington; and they get – and they brag that “we got a black box warning on Prozac.” So its like a thing on the – I don't know if they have it here in Europe, but like a - if you buy a pack of cigarettes it says “Warning it could be dangerous. It can cause lung cancer.” Okay? So maybe Scientology – if they're gonna not pull it off the market, people should be made aware of the consequences; and that's something that government could possibly affect.

And that is exactly the last thing I was gonna say, so thank you for listening and thank you.

14G0 · Sep 14, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

Woo, Jigsaw. That's alotta work. Thnx for the transcription, it will come in very handy.

Lorelei · Sep 16, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

The transcript is fantastic, thank you for all the time and effort it took to type all of it out.

Anoniemert · Sep 16, 2008

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It's going viral

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Mouseyhair · Sep 16, 2008

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Anoniemert;569114 said:

The camfag's channel is becoming rather popular.
It's going viral

Well, it should. Camfag is one sexy beast. :wink:

prot · Sep 16, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

it's a strange thing, though, that the first part of the Jason video has 2000+ views, but parts 2, 3, 4 only 1000+...
do people only watch the first part or what?

mondoreb · Sep 16, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

LBG did a report on Hamburg here:

Church of Scientology and Anonymous: Guess Which Group Didn’t get Invite to German Seminar

She cited Enturbulation three times in the sources.

Go!

moarxenu · Sep 17, 2008

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LBG's article is awesome. afaik it is the first reporting in the US outside of enturb. Great work.

iaxiloll · Sep 17, 2008

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prot;569136 said:

it's a strange thing, though, that the first part of the Jason video has 2000+ views, but parts 2, 3, 4 only 1000+...
do people only watch the first part or what?

I find that odd to, but it happens on my channel as well. Some people lose interest after the first clip.

flunkforlaughing · Sep 17, 2008

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This comes from a post on ESMB.

Short Version: The Village Voice reports that after Jason Beghe's speach in Germany, the German government put up warning signs outside the Berlin Org the very next day!

Full Article:

Jason Beghe Is Still Denouncing Scientology -- This Time in Germany
Posted by Tony Ortega at 12:10 PM, September 16, 2008
We've written several times about Jason Beghe, the veteran television and film actor (he shared a bubble bath with Demi Moore in G.I. Jane and killed a capuchin monkey with his bare teeth in Monkey Shines) who became the first of Scientology's pampered celebrity members to defect and then denounce the wacky pay-as-you-go sci-fi cabal so publicly. In April, Beghe posted a video interview about his decision to leave Scientology on YouTube, and also spoke extensively to the Voice about his reasons for spurning L. Ron Hubbard's fantasy camp.

Two weeks ago, Beghe gave similar warnings about Scientology to some German government officials in Hamburg, and videotapes of his presentation have been posted to the Internet in various places.

German officials are sensitive to the rise of tyrannical movements, for obvious reasons, so the German government has long been suspicious of Scientology and its notorious methods of coercion, which have been exposed in so many U.S. court cases going back decades. And since Germany and other European countries don't share with the U.S. a squeamishness about all things religious, Scientology hasn't been able to shield itself, as it has here, by claiming to be a "church" whose beliefs are off-limits to government scrutiny.

That doesn't work in Europe, where Scientology has been labeled a "sect" (read: money-grubbing mind-control scam) in France, and has long been on the German government's shit list.

Beghe says he spent five days in Germany, and was trailed by employees of Scientology, even in his flights to Europe. "Private eyes were watching us all the way," he says. Scientology also deployed several attorneys and high-level spokespeople, including Tommy Davis, a former close friend of Beghe and the son of actress Anne Archer. The attorneys, Beghe says, tried to shut down the symposium, unsuccesfully.

"I did a lot of interviews, all over Europe. We met with government officials. Belgium has a lawsuit against Scientology. France has a suit. It's getting shut down in Russia," he says.

At the end of his presentation, Beghe suggested that what governments could do was warn the public about Scientology the way they do about tobacco. If cigarettes are harmful, you put a warning label on the box. Why shouldn't government do the same for Scientology? he asked.

"The next day, they had put up a sign warning about the dangers of Scientology," Beghe says. An official with Germany's Interior Department told him that a sign had immediately been placed in front of a church in Berlin. "The speech really had an effect," Beghe says.

After Beghe left Scientology, and before he went public with his defection, the organization followed a well-known Hubbard policy of "disconnection." People like Davis, who was once close to Beghe and had helped him recover from a serious car accident, suddenly cut off all communication with him. But now, after his trip to Germany, Beghe says, something has changed.

"Now Tommy Davis is calling, wanting to meet. They don't know what to do with me."

Link: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...n_beghe_is.php

FFL

Lorelei · Sep 21, 2008

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iaxiloll;570423 said:

I find that odd too, but it happens on my channel as well. Some people lose interest after the first clip.

I'd add: some people aren't extremely 'net- or YT-savvy, and don't know how to look in the right-hand columns to find the other clips, some people view the first clip as an embedded video off of YT and don't go to YT to see the other parts, and YT's view counters are frequently inaccurate.

Also, GREAT NEWS about the sign on the Org in Hamburg. Fantastic.

AboutScientology · Sep 22, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

Tape got damaged, so video-quality is low, words are epic:

Lawrecne H Brennan

YouTube - (1/4) Larry Brennan talks about Scientology
YouTube - (2/4) Larry Brennan talks about Scientology
YouTube - (3/4) Larry Brennan talks about Scientology
YouTube - (4/4) Larry Brennan talks about Scientology

Anoniemert · Sep 22, 2008

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Just a small transcript of the last bit because I suspect a whole lot of anons will get a morale boost from it.
I sure did when he said it, I remember chocking up when Larry did.
For me it really was the moment that I realised that we are doing something right here, it was highly motivating to me and I hope it will be to the rest of anon.

...I also really want, I really want to thank Anonymous.
And the reason is, of any, any...
They're not even an organisation, it, it's just like an uprising of people who will not take this crap anymore.
All around the world they are bringing out the truth and they do month after month after month.
I happen to know, when I have posted on (inaudible) sites, I have, now. Sometimes I get 20 or more e-mails (inaudible) people.. that are now people who have joined anonymous, former scientologist who were allways afraid to speak out.
who knew they could loose their families if they spoke out, who knew that they would have dirty tricks played on them if they spoke out and lived in fear of (inaudible, possibly "organised scientology") and ever (inaudible) (mr Brennan gets choked up here)
Now they can put on the mask, and speak out. (audibly emotional)
and eh...It's funny that that (inaudible) organisation (inaudible) organised scientology attacks the most because thats the one thats exposing them and I just want to say thank you.
Thanks a lot.
(applause)

Anon23517 · Sep 22, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

It was a bit jumpy to watch but the audio was mostly okay. Thank you for posting this, Larry's speech was excellent.

anonymouskwisdg · Oct 9, 2008

Re: Anonymous invited to anti-Co$ event "THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY!" in Hamburg

I guess if I'm going to commit thread necromancy, at least this thread is a good one to do it to...

What I'm looking for is a transcript of Marc Headley's speech. Does anyone know if a transcript was prepared?

NoMoreDiscoNnects · Oct 9, 2008

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http://forums.whyweprotest.net/7-ge...g-germany-trip-w-info-pix-28554/2/#post560349

Marc Headley said:

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Hello, my name is Marc Headley and I would like to thank you for coming today and for listening to what we have to say. I'm here today to give you a glimpse of what I experienced while working at the International headquarters of Scientology.

My mother got involved in Scientology in the early 1980's and I became involved in and around Scientology at the age of 6. From the ages of 12-16 I was enrolled in a Scientology school; and at the age of 16 I was recruited into the paramilitary branch of Scientology called the Sea Organization. I've basically been involved in Scientology for most of my life and I've seen all aspects of Scientology – from a staff member selling introductory books on the street, to dealing with the leader of Scientology David Miscavige. I was a staff member at the International headquarters of Scientology from 1990 until 2005; when I left.

I started out as an electronics technician there, checking the quality of cassette tapes that were being made at the manufacturing facility there, and then I moved on to overseeing the films that were being shot. We shot a lot of informational films for internal use in Scientology organizations around the world. I later became the film producer over all of the videos and films and audio products that were produced at Golden Era Productions. During my 15 years of working at the Scientology headquarters I witnessed and was exposed to many things that I'll never ever be able to erase from my mind. Just to give you some examples: For the entire 15 years that I worked there I averaged at least 100 hours a week – work hours. We would literally - any waking hour was spent working, and that's pretty much the hours that every single person there worked. We did very little else besides that. Children as young as 14 were also employed there and were keeping those exact same hours. This is at the International Headquarters in California, United States.

When I left in 2005 I was averaging 3-4 hours sleep a night and some weeks I was putting in over 130 hours a week working. Sometimes we'd stay up for 3 or 4 nights in a row to get a project done; and this would be anywhere from 20 to 50 to 100 people that had to stay through the night; night after night after night after night in order to get a production deadline met for David Miscavige, that he was demanding. This is not some deep, dark secret, where you know, there's a few people off in a corner in Scientology keeping these kind of hours. Its a way of life there. Everyone there is working those many hours, and it is not allowed; when you work at the facility at the International Headquarters, you can't just say “I'm tired, I wanna go home.” That's it. You're there until we're done; and if that means we have to stay all night, then that means you have to stay all night. You don't have any choice in the matter whatsoever.

In addition to lack of sleep there's also a lack of proper nutrition; the meals that are being prepared there and the facilities to support the staff that work there are very very mediocre. At one time while working at the Church, I, at 5'10'' would weigh just over 100 lbs, and my ribs were clearly – the outline of my ribs were clearly showing through, as I'd lost over 60 lbs during a 6 month period of like, very heavy production demand with little food and lack of sleep, and working very very long hours. The medical care for staff is very rare as well, and one of the things you're told when you sign up for the Sea Organization is that all medical expenses will be paid for by the Sea Organization. Its just simply not the case. If you need contacts, if you need glasses, you get put on a list of 300 people and when the list gets down to you, then you might be able to get some contacts or get some glasses. If you feel sick or you have some kind of illness, you're actually viewed as a – what they call a “Potential Trouble Source” - which means, somebody that you're related to, or somebody that you're working with is “suppressing you” and is a “Suppressive Person”; and once you identify and handle that then possibly your illness will be cured. So its not look at as its actually a medical situation or its an ailment that you need – you might need some medicine for; its actually a mental or psychological problem that you need to deal with.

In a lot of times, staff that have symptoms or have things that might be diagnosed as a terminal illness are not diagnosed for that, until it gets so bad that they are forced to visit a professional physician or go to a hospital – go to the emergency room and only to find out that they have some sort of cancer, or some sort of sickness that they've had for a year or 2 years or 8 years, that's gone unchecked and untreated because they haven't handled it psychologically or haven't identified a person who has been suppressing them.

Daily physical , verbal abuse, emotional abuse, is just rampant throughout the International Headquarters of Scientology. People yelling at people, people punching people. I myself, on at least 10 different occasions have witnessed David Miscavige actually physically strike other staff members to the ground, strike staff members so many times or damage them physically, that they actually needed medical attention, or that a medical officer from the facility would have to come and bandage them or treat them. In one instance, I myself, was punched several times by David Miscavige in the face, for basically arguing or talking back to him during a discussion that we were having.

After hearing all that, many people say “Well, why did you stay there for 15 years?” you know? I was there while all this was happening. “Why didn't you just leave?” A lot of people get asked that once they come out, and they tell of all these things that happened to them, and all these different abuses that they witnessed, and its like “well why did you stick around?” Well, staff are not allowed to come and go as they please. When you work at the International Headquarters of Scientology; you work there, you live there, you never leave. You're always there on the property. If you do need to leave for some reason, or you need to go into the town which is 20 minutes away, you actually have to get a formal submission approved through like 3 or 4 of your senior staff members saying that you're allowed to go; and only then are you allowed to go, if you have another person go with you, so that you can't leave the Organization without authorization and never come back. The entire property is surrounded by large, high fences with razor barbed wire atop every single fence; with security cameras, high powered floodlights, motion detectors every 10 feet on the fence. So, even if you said “Okay, I'm leaving! I'm just gonna jump over the fence.” Within 20 seconds there would be a security guard on a motorcycle pulling up to the fence where you're attempting to climb over; because they're watching every move of every person on the property so that nobody could get out.

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All incoming mail and outgoing mail is read by security personnel. So if my mother were to write me a letter, it would be read by at least 1 security personnel before I would even get to it. If I wrote a letter to my mother, it would be read. I would have to – any mail – any staff member there mails out has to be sent unsealed, so that it can be read by security; and once they've read it, and deemed it proper and no sensitive information is being leaked through the letter or, I'm not saying what's happening with me, or that I'm unhappy or any non-optimum situation is written in the letter. If that's all okay, then the security guard themselves will seal it and then mail it. That's all communication from all staff members.

All staff are required to surrender their passports and visas once signing up and starting work at the International Headquarters. So if I am a European citizen and I'm working there and I decide to leave, even if I do leave; I can't go anywhere 'cause I don't have my passport, or I don't have my visa. I don't have any of my papers; and there's no way to get them. They're locked up in a safe. I have no access to them whatsoever. Most Sea Org members that are there don't even have passports or even driver's licenses. So, even if they wanted to flee the country they wouldn't be able to. Even if they had access to them they wouldn't be able to. As well – all Sea Org members internationally are forbidden to have children. It is against the codes of Sea Org to have children. If a female staff member for some reason was married, and got pregnant, then she's basically forced or convinced to have an abortion. If she refuses to have an abortion, then she will be offloaded from the Sea Organization and in most cases, declared; and she will not be able to speak to any of her family or friends that are Scientologists.

During the 15 years that I worked for the Church of Scientology, my income averaged out to be 36 cents an hour. That's what I got paid for working there for 15 years. 36 cents an hour. Some years I got $1,000 for the entire year That was my pay for working over 100 hours a week. I was paid $1,000 a year. When you get paid $1,000 a year and you want to leave, its very hard, because you don't have any money. If you had no money and you left, then you basically have to tell yourself “If I leave, I'm gonna be a bum on the street; cause I have no family, I have no friends, I have no money, I have nothing. I have no possessions.” So, leaving in that situation; it makes it a very very hard proposition for somebody there in that situation to deal with.

Like I was saying earlier, most people that are working there, they don't have a car, so there's not really any reason to have a driver's license You don't have any money, so there's not any real reason to have a bank account or a credit card or a credit history. I don't know how it works here in EU, but when I left in 2005 and they found out that here's this 33 year old guy and he doesn't even have credit card; doesn't even have any credit history. Where have you been for 33 years? You don't even exist. You don't even have bad credit. You don't exist; you're nobody. It makes it very hard to start a life, get a job, get an apartment; you know, buy a car.

Staff that do manage to escape; after everything that I've just told you – staff that do manage to escape are hunted down like animals, and recovered. If you leave and they find out out you leave; every every morning at breakfast, every noon, every dinnertime; and at the end of the night there's a roll call of all staff members. They account for every single person. If, at any one of those intervals, someone is not accounted for, they call a drill – basically a task force that gets sent out to check all bus stations, all airports, all hotels; any means of transport or escape are all checked and gone through to find any of these people that – a person who might have left. Scientology even has access to – they have staff that are licensed representatives of the airlines. Not just a travel agent, but like a licensed representative of the airline. So, if you were to leave and make it to the airport, they can literally search the records of the airplane – all the flights that are leaving the local airport and find out what seat you have, and exactly when you're going, so they have have somebody meet you at the other end, or they can have somebody intercept you at - when you're going to the airport.

Once they do locate a person that's left, they usually find somebody who that person is very good friends with and they basically get that person to convince you that you need to come back; or they get your spouse – your wife, or your mother or your father or whoever is there. There's a lot of people that work there, that their children also now work there. Or their best friend for the last 20 years is at work there; and they get that person to convince you that you should come back, and that you shouldn't leave, and “I'm never gonna see you again” and “We're never gonna be able to talk” and “You're never gonna talk to your family”.

If a person leaves and refuses to come back, and they can't convince them to come back, then they basically give you one final option and they tell you “if you leave, you will be declared a 'Suppressive Person'”. One of the rules that L Ron Hubbard wrote about the International Headquarters of Scientology is that no matter what happens; if you leave and no longer work there, you will be declared a Suppressive Person. Period. Mainly due to the sensitive and very compromising information that people learn while they're working there. If they were to leave for any reason, and they were to speak with other Scientologist's about what happens there, and the going's on's there, then they would lose members of the organization because people would, you know, obviously go “that can't be right. That's just major violations of human rights. It can't be possible”; and they would have people leave Scientology. So basically, if you do leave you are declared a Suppressive Person. Once you're declared a Suppressive Person, you can no longer speak with any of your family if they are involved in Scientology whatsoever.

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You cannot speak to any friends. You cannot speak to any business acquaintances. Anybody involved in Scientology, you have no further communication with. Period. Ever again. Ever. When I left Scientology in 2005, my family members that were still in Scientology were all contacted before I could contact them,, and told never to communicate with me ever again. When I left in 2005, my mother was told never to speak to me again; and I hadn't even been able to tell her why I left, or to even speak to her for one last time and say goodbye. She was taken from me by Scientology and I have not spoken to her since; and I probably will never speak to her ever again. My sister was moved to Canada and they changed her name so that I would not be able to locate her; and I have not spoken to her since 2005. Sorry. In 2006, a friend of mine that also worked for Scientology and had left, and was also a declared Suppressive Person, and had not talked to his mom in several years, was contacted by Scientology. At this time I was starting to speak out against Scientology and I was becoming a major problem for them in the United States. They contacted him and said: “If you go and find Mark Headley and meet up with him and get any sort of blackmail material on him, we'll let you talk to your mother again; and we'll undeclare you as a Suppressive Person.” This person, knowing me very well, knew that I wouldn't have anything that he could blackmail me with in the first place, but that also, he was my good friend. He wouldn't do that to me. So he had no other choice but to meet with me and tell me what had happened.

In case you think my experiences are isolated only to the United States, they're not. L Ron Hubbard wrote one set of policies they're applied – they're to be applied to every single Scientology Organization in the world. There's no exceptions. There's not a version for Germany. There's not a version for Australia or for Canada. There's one version; and that version is the sacred text that is supposed to be applied to all Scientology organizations throughout the entirety of the world. I've been to many Scientology organizations around the world as well. I've been to, I'd say, at least 100 different Scientology organizations in my 15 years of working for Scientology; and I can tell you that I've witnessed the abuses that I have mentioned above in every single one of these organizations.

Because we're in Germany, I want to give you a little small story that may or may not shed some light on how Scientology executives view this country. It was 2 Scientology executives at the International Headquarters and, we'll call one "The Boss” and one “The Worker.” The Worker had just purchased a brand new BMW. It was an awesome car; it was – you know – brand new. The Scientology boss found out that this guy had bought a BMW, and he had him called to his office. The Worker showed up at his office and he's like: “Yes sir, what do you need?” and he's like: “I heard you just bought a BMW” and he goes “that's right its the best car I've ever owned. Its great handling, its fast. Its an awesome car I love it. I can't believe – you know – its just an awesome car.” The Scientology boss said “You have to sell it. You have to sell it right away.” The worker was like “why? I bought it yesterday. I just got it.” and he said: “There's no way that anyone working for Scientology can buy a car that was made in Germany; the most suppressive country in the world.” The worker sold the car; and he hasn't bought a car since, that I know of. The reason why the Scientology boss called Germany the most Suppressive country in the world was because “Germany has questioned the activities of Scientology.” The boss in this story is David Miscavige. The worker was the Executive Director International of Scientology. That's how Germany is viewed by Scientology. When I worked in the film crew, we built a brand new studio at Golden Era Productions. We had to buy lights; cine lights – lights to light movie sets. The manufacturer that makes the best lights in the world is a company called Erie ; its a German company. We were not allowed to buy Erie lights because they were made in Germany. We had to buy sub-par American lights – because we couldn't support the country of Germany from Scientology.

You guys – you can decide what I've said today and how that applies to you and I know there's people here from other countries. I know that a lot of things happened while I was there. These are my opinions on what I experienced from my 15 years working there. If I – what I say today makes it so that one person doesn't get involved with Scientology, it would be well worth it. If what I said today makes to so no one else gets involved in Scientology, it would be priceless.

Thank you very much.

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