Discussion in 'Narconon' started by peterstorm, Jul 19, 2012.
Bueller's in session on the cans. Come back later. (you did know that actor is a scilon, yes?)
Well how come they list the E-meter on a depreciation form for tax purposes ($2000), if it's not for use on their victims students?
That would be tax fraud, not?
This site allows you to view all the Narconon's 990's (http://www.guidestar.org) going back in some cases years and others just a few. Some wild things here. There was a Narconon DC that looks like it was set up to fail (just collect money) and much more. lots and lots of shit to dig through.
Here is a big one for arrowhead 2010.
They only spent 6,100.00 for staff training ! ! !
Food and Delivery of Service was 1 million dollars. They made over 8 million, this means they cleared 7 million dollars in 2010
So we got 1,600.00 for training of 49 people. That is 32.65 per staff member per year for training.
This document also shows they got a stipend of 20,123.00 divided among them as they were trained = 410.76 per person. How long is their training? Just like the Sea Org, these people have no means to leave even if they wanted too.
It just hit me that the cost to feed people is more than the cost of the delivery of the program!
Reach and withdraw is a very simple auditing procedure, written by Hubbard. It is normally done without an e-meter, because the pc has to move his hand constantly to touch / not touch an object.
Basically, there are 2 commands ( from memory, maybe someone can post the actual Reach & Withdraw auditing procedure here0.
Auditor tells PC:
"Reach for that _____________ "
PC touches the object
Auditor acknowledges "Thank You"
Auditor tell PC:
"Withdraw from that ______________"
PC moves hand away from the object
Auditor acknowledges "Thank You"
This is repeated until PC is VGIs (Very Good Indicators)
So, using an e-meter for Reach and Withdraw is not the most practical. E-meter doesn't work if PC is constantly moving his hands around; body movement messes with the e-meter readings. I've only done it and seen it done without an e-meter. But E-meter is normally used after the end of the process to verify the VGIs, by checking for floating needle.
Remember, in the very beginning, Narconon was actively promoted internally as a way to get drug addicts into Scientology. Narconon was "the Bridge to the Bridge". A way to grab more raw meat for Scientology.
In very early days of Narconon, Scientology techniques were more openly used than they are now.
VGIs is Scientologese for until you are so tired of this bullshit you pretend you had a "win" just to get it done and over with.
7 page HCOB,here is the page that gives the auditing commands
HCO BULLETIN OF 10 APRIL 1981RREVISED 7 AUGUST 1983REACH AND WITHDRAW
I meant reach and withdraw using illegal drugs.
edited: didn't someone say that the people running the program used real drugs to do this procedure?
At 4:27 in this Video, Department of Mental Health ORDERED all NN's in Oklahoma
to "make it clear in ALL communications, what services it's certified for RE: "Non-Medical" Detox facilty.
Just reviewing some Arrowhead websites and have NOT veiwed any such statement yet?
Well, it's a business asset (listed on a corporate tax return) and it's not medical (because of the FDA ruling) so it must be documentation of official religious behaviour, i.e. we're talking about a religious activity. Niiiice
This would also make it fraud. It can not be used for any legitimate business reason and cannot qualify.
sorry for the dup post
Needs moar Bozo.
Moar Bozo or moar Sideshow Bob?
A certain someone is receiving calls from 966 509 609790
Does anyone have resources to track this odd number. This someone has received numerous calls from this weird number. All the calls have been during the middle of the night multiple times. The number reflects Saudi Arabia.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
It's possible to spoof Caller ID.
probably is, I just got word from the certain someone stating that once he/she text me the number all the calls stopped....WTF.
Last call was on Nov 25th
Google regards it as a UPS package tracking number.
The 966 prefix suggests that it may be part of the 1 - 800 set of numbers, 1 - 866, etc.
How does the number reflect "Saudi Arabia" - the number of digits?
He is working off the 966 numbers which is Saudi however I think it's just a spoof and it's better to let the call ring. I get spoof numbers all the time and just let it ring if I don't know you I am not going to answer.
I saw that as well......can you PM me?
Today is Nov 26th
WHY ARE THEY STILL OPEN?
"If they don't bring some serious charges against NN Arrowhead tomorrow, we won't be the only ones realizing there's a problem with NN and local government.
If they do, it's the beginning of the end for NN in the United States. I always said this program couldn't survive scrutiny.
This program cannot survive scrutiny! I know we're asking why NN Arrowhead is still open and taking in new raw meat. Maybe we'll have an answer tomorrow. The wheels of justice often grind slow, but really? This thing's been ripping people off for decades!"
Just found this and reported it to KJRH. Narconon AH is using a sourced image of Stacy from KJRH. This is being done to increase search string (moving them to the top of the page). Pretty darn despicable if you ask me.
The article is titled:
Narconon Arrowhead Accepting Donations To Help Local Food Pantry
PR Web (press release)-Nov 21, 2012
However, this year a local drug rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead, is also lending a ... Narconon Arrowhead is accepting donations for a food pantry they are ...
Here is the search string results:
KJRH has a strong disclaimer regarding their images:
Stacy Dawn Murphy
Copyright 2012 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
^^^KJRH wasn't to happy to learn about this.
Just a note on what you are seeing here...
The image of Stacey Dawn Murphy is being associated with the key words "Narconon Arrowhead" for display on the Google News results page. This happened because a Google algorithm has scored the image of Stacey Dawn Murphy as very high in association with Narconon Arrowhead. This is a good thing, people - it means that media coverage of Narconon Arrowhead is primarily concentrated on the stories of the recent deaths.
Narconon Arrowhead is not using her image, as can be confirmed when you click through to the actual PR piece.
And collecting food for a local food pantry? Which one?
And you know they will be keeping some of it.
Thanks Brother, I didn't notice it on the PR and I didn't even think about what you said above. Oh well its out there now. Thanks again...learn something new every day.
WOW...another lawsuit for Narconon Arrowhead
I hope everyone comes foward.
I hope that somehow this turns into the biggest class action in the history of class actions, and sees the emptying of The cults coffers and liquidation of cult property worldwide. Unlikely I know, but aim for the moon and stars.
not possible. Narconon is not Scientology, didn't you hear Gary Smith?
Good. The sooner the law is brought to bear on the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology and its front organisations, the sooner people will stop getting hurt. Very good.
William Scott vs Narconon Lawsuit
He was denied his medication
WILL SOMEBODY SHUT THESE FUCKERS DOWN ALREADY!!!!
I've just opened a new section at Infinite Complacency on Narconon. Clearly, I have a lot of catching up to do. Not sure if there's a main Narconon thread so posted it in a few of the most recent ones, but if you could spread the word, much appreciated.
Narconon is a rehabilitation programme for addicts run on a system devised by Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard. Critics say it is based on junk science and potentially lethal.
first off ^^^ awesome!!
and I think I have mentioned this before, but my memory fails me.
Is there any way someone who is namefagged can run a small add in local papers of the towns where the Narconons are? You can ask people to come forward and contact authorities?
Something like (not in these exact words):
"Many people who have formally been through the Narconon Program are coming foward with their stories of abuse, financial drain, Scientology indoctrination and more. If you were a victim of Narconon's Program, please come forward and tell authorities now. People's lives depend on it."
good idea? bad idea? will it cause someone to get sued? thoughts?
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