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Another OT7 and OT8 leave

Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by an0nim0uz, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. an0nim0uz Member

    Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    From Marrrrty's blog:

    Source: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/claudio-and-renata-lugli-are-free/
  2. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    TL;DR "LRH did it right, DM does it wrong." They should lurk some moar.
  3. Miranda Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Yeah, but to outsiders this kind of statement carries a certain weight--it isn't just someone changing religions but someone who loves their (ahem) religion yet feels it has betrayed them. "The Church of Scientology Is Gone" would not be a bad message for those still in.
  4. Squirrel King Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    How come I always chuckle when I read, "when correctly applied". Reminds me of the Yellow Kid and his "money making machine".-- A con's artists greatest disclaimer.
  5. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    They all say it and not just culters. If Karl Marx were alive today he would say Marxism works and that it was never applied correctly. People never admit that their world view is faulty in the least.
  6. an0nim0uz Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Yep. As always.
  7. Gottabrain Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    ^^That's quite a profound statement. Nice observation, Anon.
  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    It starts as a drop, then a few more drops, making a drip, then it turns into a trickle and a little stream. The little stream becomes a bigger stream, and finally a gush. Then it's over, and all that remains is the money and buildings.
  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Then we can sue to take the money and squat to take the buildings.
  10. another123 Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

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  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    The comments in the thread on MR's page are interesting.
    Tory congratulates the new ex-members and they compliment her.

    The ex-members also thank Geir Isene and say his writings were influential in getting them out:

    He thanks them.

    Great stuff. Hopefully this is just the first step for them and they will also see that the scam is all Hubbard, not just Miscavige.
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    And everybody has got it wrong somewhere down the line.

    It's what keeps life interesting
  13. Triumph Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    it's Tiziano Luigi's parents

    Marty and Mike flash raid Seattle Empty Org
  14. Squirrel King Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Very true and I've heard Marxist say this very thing. The hardcore Marxists have a millennial philosophy believing in a paradise that will unfold naturally upon certain conditions. Of course it never has happened because "somebody always does something wrong/unpure/misapplied".
  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    a little devil's advocate:
    I agree that could perhaps make some consider leaving if they have been disaffected, but the post script message could be - the CoS is better under DM than LRH.
    because they can see:
    1)Their eader is not on the run to avoid prosecution or Banned from the UK.
    2)Taxes problems of the past seem to be gone for ever
    3)Mike and Marty no longer torment members like they admit they used to.
    4)The G.O. is gone.
    5)Fair Game is canceled <coughbullshitcough>

    My point is to an insider it could be looked at as if the CoS is making improvements.

    I don't think it is a good idea to have a double standard for the people who leave when they still believe that 2% of the population should be -dealt with- without sorrow, or believe being exposed to outsiders with other ideas can cause cancer, or that cancer can be cured with an e-meter.

    Loyal Scientologists would have as hard of a time believing the truth about DM about as much as most of us would have believing Tiny Dancer has a basement full of dead hookers. Because I don't believe that DM even believes the "real truth" about DM. (Or Tiny Dancer)

    Also I think this was posted in Media, not under "Marty Rathbun".
  16. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    What happened to their second son, the one who was in the Sea Org?
  17. Triumph Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Italian Ex-Scientologists





  18. subgenius Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Fabulous series^^^^^^^^^^^^
  19. EmptyV Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Yeh i'd never seen that before, was an interesting watch.
  20. xenubarb Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Tory's hanging out at the Clam Shack these days?
  21. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    Teegeeack sounds so nice in Italian.
  22. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    xenubarb: "Tory's hanging out at the Clam Shack these days?"

    not only is she hanging out there, but she says that she will direct people wanting auditing to mar-tay's group.
  23. Anonymous Member

    Re: Another OT7 and OT8 leave

    She's been there for awhile gloating & praising Marty & his fan club over various things.

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