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Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.

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  1. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Please add Twin Cities Org Minneapolis
    to Shelby LaFreniere's name
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  5. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    ok this is a little weak...
    But there is this entry under Project Owl in the Clearwater Commission Hearings, the name is supposed to be John Wise not Jose Wise, as you can see in the third entry:

    Exhibit 48

    PROJECT OWL

    Information

    On Feb. 26, 1976 Bsn PC Jos Wise accompanied by attorney John Lynch, his father and two detectives attached to the Suffolk County DA's office came to the Bsn Org demanding a refund and threatening a complaint of larceny, extortion and embezzlement against the Church.

    On March 17, 1976 it was discovered that the Suffolk County DA's offices is conducting an investigation of Scn Bsn for criminal fraud.

    On March 17 it was also discovered that ex. Bsn PC John Wise had been seeing psychiatrist Stanley Cath since about Feb. 16, 1976.

    Since this was entered as an exhibit, would this constitute that John Wise spoke out?
    Since it is open for anyone to see?

    Yay or Nay? Can't find anything else on him.
    Since he asked for a refund, I doubt he is still in?

    If this is a yay, then it would be as follows:

    John Wise- Bsn Org, asked for refund

    City of Clearwater Commission Hearings Re: The Church of Scientology, 5/6/82
  6. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Another weak one?

    "In 2006, Grays attended several Scientology courses at the Church of Scientology in New York City with the understanding they would assist him in his job.
    Grays also was "forced against his will'' to purchase a library of Scientology books and its cost also was added to his debt, according to the lawsuit.
    Grays was fired in December 2008 "because of his refusal to become a member of the Church of Scientology,'' the suit alleges."

    Two others in the same lawsuit
    John Knapp and Larry Kolakowski

    BUT..... they were forced to take courses and by books, and asked for more money and to go on the Purification Rundown...
    When he refused he was fired.
    Yay or nay???

    If yay-
    Maurice Grays -took several courses and purchased books through his employment, Borough Council. NY Org, He was pressured to donate more and become a scientologist, he was fired. Filed lawsuit in Supierior court against COS

    Another Scientology Lawsuit : Dispatches from the Culture Wars
  7. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    I would say don't include anyone unless they have taken some intentional, public action designed to express antagonism toward the cult.

    Lawsuits are public, right? However, it's possible to seek specific relief for some perceived wrong via a lawsuit while simultaneously still desiring to continue the relationship otherwise. It would be necessary to, minimally, examine the lawsuit to determine whether that is the case or whether a complete break has occurred. Even then, absent any other public statements, it's still a little on the weak side in terms of "speaking out", IMO.

    Perhaps we should have a Big List of Lawsuits against the Cult of Scientology.
  8. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    is this nay to both of the entries above?
  9. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Please add to Frank Watson's name-
    left after 15 years, married aboard the Apollo. Hubbard gave the bride away. Frank was overboarded 5 times

    Please add to Gerry Armstrong's name - left after 12 years
    and first prisoner of Clearwater's RPF

    Don't forget two other new names in post #364
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  11. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Correction on Tory Christman's name.
    she was a volunteer for OSA, not in OSA
  12. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Depends on what is in the lolsuits.
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  15. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Please add ANZO, PAC RPF and CO and CMOI next to CMO
    To Lana Mitchel's name
  16. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    another one speaks out!
    Lisa Hamilton- left after 22 years, Sea Org, Snr I&R, Snr HAS ,Snr I&R, Snr Qual Sec, HAS, LA
    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

    The following that Lisa wrote really got to me, this is beyond sad:
    "One day a dozen or so elderly SO members were suddenly herded onto a plane, without being asked or given time to collect all their belongings and sent to PAC. Most of them were heartbroken. Similar actions were done with staff who were seriously ill. Being part of an organization that treats people who had dedicated their lives to the cause, and who now because of their physical limitations, were being so callously “transferred”, was a source of both anger and grief for me."


    This has to be made more public.


    also add her husband Mark Hamilton with the same link
  17. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Also a very important thing that Lisa Hamilton said:

    "didn’t you all wonder about the protester with the sign – “Why did Rinder run?” — I know I did"

    Once again a seed of doubt was planted and worked. :)


    and :
    "I am hoping that all of you will at least give what I say some thought, that you DO look at what BOTH sides of this issue are doing and saying. Once you have done that, you can make your own decision.

    If you decide that this is BS and is not true for you, well fine. That is your decision. That does not make you my enemy. Why should it? We can still be in comm and be friends and “agree to disagree”…hmmm, think that is also covered somewhere"
  18. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Don't forget to add Lisa Hamilton's husband Mark with the same link

    That will make the count 1090!!!
  19. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Mike Laws- comment on Marty's blog, COS completions
    Lisa Hamilton Speaks

    I know his wife Anna is out too, but can't find anything she has said publically
  20. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    add to Mark Hamilton's name- left after 30 years, supervisor of the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course (SHSBC) at ASHO Foundation
  21. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Three more!
    I am getting to like this a whole lot!

    Chris Guider-ex-left after 24 yearsRTC, Sea Org,OT V, Cl IX, HSSC, FPRD Aud, Scn Magistrate, OEC 0, 1, 2

    Valeska Guider- left after 17 yrs, Sea Org, Clear, HSSC, Pro Sup, HRD Auditor, PTS Rdn Auditor, OEC 0

    Marsha (Pearlman) Sorensen- left after 7 years, OT III, Class VI,AOLA staff

    http://www.scientology-cult.com/declarations-of-independence/the-indie-500.html
  22. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    add this link to John Brousseau
    JB – Going Mobile
  23. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Can anyone tell me if Felicitas Foster is a pseudo name?
  24. Anonymous Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Looks like people are getting out of the cult very fast lately.
  25. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Don't forget some have already been out for years, and are now just getting the courage to come forward. Leaving now or speaking out after years, it's all wonderful!!
  26. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    please add:
    Internal Security Officer in RTC, Estates Manager to John Brousseau's name
  27. Anonymous Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Went through the list with the Link Evaluator Firefox extension, found and fixed 25 links. Here's one not fixed:

    Pier Paolo - blog comment
    (google is only turning up either a fifteenth century humanist or an Italian poet, intellectual, film director, and writer. Is this a pseudonym?)
  28. Anonymous Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Not sure what RightOn did there...
  29. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    ok, just wakin up here, wat's going on?
    What did I do now? lol

    the name Pier Paolo is at question now?

    Maybe Pier Paolo is this guy?:
    Pier Paolo Zedde- STATE OF MAN CONGRESS COURSE Freewinds 52 2004-03-01

    If so, we have to add Zedde to his last name.

    And I am going to look into your other question
  30. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    ok found the story behind Jorg Thomas Wilkesmann.
    After translating correctly, I found he was still IN.
    That's why he had to be removed.


    And Pier.... will try to find him, I guesss the link that was ther is dead?

    EDITED: for some reason I think this name is associated with the whole Maria Pia Gardini book and Michel and the Gianni Leone person who wrote the Italian Mondo articles. Will have to find it.
    I think the link is gone because the person who wrote that piece was pressured by COS to take it down? if I am not mistaken ( Gianni Leone)

    will have to look into this

    EDITED:
    I found this page:
    http://groups.google.it/group/exscn...d491b/65f3775e1e4eaca9?hl=it#65f3775e1e4eaca9

    It has severeal emails back and forth with Maria pia Gardini (al in Ialian)
    which talk negatively about COS
    it also is linked to what looks like and EXSCI group and that he is an independent now.

    He also has several anti Sci comments in Italain here:
    http://www.cinezapping.com/2010/05/11/problemi-con-scientology-per-tom-cruise/

    he is also listed on the Italian EX sci site.

    I also thought his name was mentioned in her book... I will keep checking
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    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Could someone make a bar graph showing the rate at which this list is climbing? X axis is time (origin=date the list was started), Y axis is size of the list? Obviously there'd be a huge climb for the first couple months as old data is collected and compiled, then a tapering off... but I'd like to see if the trend is accelerating again now.
  33. TrevAnon Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    She's already on the list. Might want to add the link.
  34. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    The link is already on post #381 for the Indy 500 ,
    here is other link to their story
    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
  35. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    hmmm would be intereseting.
    But keep in mind. Some people have recently left, some left long ago and recently came forward and some were recently found by digging and they left long ago
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  37. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out



    KEY:

    Navin Johnson = Martyologist
    sniper = L. Ron Hubbard
    cans = David Miscavige
    boss = Anonymous
    phone book = the "Bridge to Total Freedom"
  38. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    wat? ^^^
    is this "funny" in the right thread Johnny? I has confused
  39. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    Well, I may have put it in the wrong thread. I thought I checked, but... anyway, it's in response to the Mahtyology fad.
  40. RightOn Member

    Re: Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out

    been there done that.

    Maybe edit? (please?)
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