Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.

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    ok good. I read "after 22 years" in his story by whomever was interviewing him
    must go puke or lay down or both :(
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    Do we have evidence these two were at the Dror Center before it went independent? They are only mentioned as reaching clear "in the last few months", but the Center went independent a year earlier, and they state in the post that "We now have 3-4 new people starting every month."

    I guess the same question goes for the rest of the new names listed too. So far it looks like Moti Morel is the only name previously known, a 2011 anonymous poster said "Morel was booed off stage once when he appeared in some event unrelated to Scientology, but his audience was that of religious Jews. They objected his ties with Scientology. He insisted that he wasn't a Scientologist."
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    As far as Schaul and Voland
    I went by this:
    "Q. So this “Technical Perfection” that you are proud of, does it show in actual progress up the Bridge for your public?
    Absolutely, in the last few months we’ve had six public attest Clear, each one a wonderful success story. Here they are:"
    to me is says they were publics (public scis) before. or am I reading this wrong? maybe new people can also mean new indies?
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    Public indies don't need to have previously been public members of the CoS.
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    yes I know.
    guess we can take it to vote?
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    In this circumstance I'd prefer to hear they were in the CoS at least from other former members if not from them speaking about it themselves, however long we need to wait for that.
    This guesswork of new names at Dror being former CoS members without confirmation is only going to become less solid as time passes further.
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    there is this:
    "We are the “Association of Free Scientologists Israel.” (Association registered in Israel, number 580573376.)
    This association was formed by myself, Tsipi Andersen, and my fellow independent Scientologists in Israel."
    This is above the list of names on their site. Also is it possible for them to go clear in that short amount of time?
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    I don't see any date on that about page. For all we know they could edit that list, adding names as people join their staff and removing names as people wake up and leave ;)

    Edit: Comparing the current page to the one from the Wayback machine's June 2013 copy, the list remains unchanged:

    I'd have preferred to see it much less than 11 months after Dror went independent or even a copy of the association's registration papers, but for the names listed there I'm prepared to take what kept as enough evidence they are former CoS members.
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    oh well, that answers that. at least I wasn't wrong.
    Why are those spellings so far off? geez! I know its another language, but the difference is ridiculous.
    maybe it would help to add alternative spellings? so when you do a search on the list it will come up.
  16. Incredulicide Member

    Thanks, added the aka to Vika's entry.
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    ok, just got off the telly. called a friend with a FB account. Ady Schaul has an account and it says that Ady is married to Ronit Schaul, so should be ok as a confirmation?
    so what should we list his name that under "Q"? LOL
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    Mary McCarren Kahn [already on] posts that her son disconnected.
    Sad. :(
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    so votes? I think this one is a go? Or is he already on the list under a crazy spelling?
    Again, we need to add alternative spellings to some of the Dror entries
    Like this one:
    Luba Baram - listed on the list as Luba Bar-Am
    the first name above is the way they spell it on their dror site. where did we get the other spelling from?
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    This post
    It looks like the translator formatted it that way, I've changed the entry to Baram with the "About us" link
    That same post seems like the source of many of the originally different spellings, for example:
    Given that Eyal Soref is the spelling at both and I moved both Eyal and Shahar Soref to "S" in the wiki list with that as the primary spelling. I'll have to go through the rest of the names in that post to find all the subsequent spellings each name has in this thread.
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    Also, since we've done such a dog's breakfast of these names, and now have to include multiple spellings, a couple posts after that one there was this:
    We didn't add that name at the time because of spelling. See:
    Now we can't do any worse than we already have by adding him as:
  23. RightOn Member

    ^ thank you for all the Dror revamping

    #2197 - Noam Rode - aka Noam Rohde - Tel Aviv Israel, interview

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    still need a vote on Josef Therling
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    If being married to Ronit Schaul is Ady Schaul's confirmation, shouldn't Ronit get a number too? Doesn't make sense to add one without the other.
  26. RightOn Member

    yes back in post # 4744 there are other names too that needed confirming
    what is your thoughts on Josef Therling yay or nay?
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    #2198 - Ronit Schaul- Tel Aviv Israel, listed on Dror Center Indie site

    you know what is weird tho?
    Ady Schaul is not on the Dror center site. I wonder why
    So there is Don, Ady and Ronit.
    These names are driving me batty
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    can anyone confirm Hubert Scheer?

    horrible translation:
    Wow, wow, wow
    claimants step debbie is really in the right direction-bravo...
    Thanks feli for the translation...
    only the collective action of DM and the repayment of the money not collected by lrh references is lacking at the right time. the future begins to shape great

  31. firebug Member

    He was one of a number of scientologists who co-signed a letter to the Austrian President and Chancellor in 1997
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    still looking for comfirmation on these
    Michael Genin
    Igal Golan
    Ori Livni
    Nataly Mishal
    Ouri Ravia
    Ofer Schahaf
    Alex Surov

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    holy shit, I have never seen that
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  37. Looks like Rusty Champion, rumormonger who has been going after David Love, was not very truthful in the above statements. Time to edit his name on the list? He's on the Clear list at truth about Scientology site but everything else is suspect.

    All this came from this Facebook thread. You may have to be signed in or a friend or mutual friend in order to see it. I don't know how to get screen shots large enough to post here
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    I removed Portland as a location on the list, and added his middle initial "D." along with the link to
  39. Incredulicide Member

    The same links can be added to Frik Blaauw (already on)
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