Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

do we have any other references for the name above?
Or Sehlene LeCornu, or Ole Hemningslose
need to know that these are not psuedos

I'm not sure where the spelling Kraemer originated, a forum search brings me first to the post of him being added to the list by you.
He's spelled Kramer on Exscn forums where another book he wrote under his real name is mentioned: Mindwalking
I found it here: http://www.verlag-jentschura.de/de/literatur/mindwalking
The spelling on that page is also Kramer.

if it was added by me here, then that makes sense
So Kramer it is
what is your vote on other names above?

brb waffles

The source linked to from the original post adding Forest Crane spells it Forrest Crane. Additionally there's a completion for Forrest:
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/f/forrest-crane.html

The source linked to from the original post adding Alan Hacker spells it Allen Hacker. Additionally there's a completion for "Al":
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/a/al-hacker.html

Again, the only spelling of "Alan" and "Forest" is you, sorry

#2357 - Des Popham - Sea Org for 10 years, knew Hubbard personally, Spoke at two independent scientologist conference, (Ivy 10 Pg. 35, 1993, and Ivy 12 Pg. 18, 1993 ) Listed 1975 Flag Land Base Personnel List, Apollo Staff
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy10.pdf#page=35
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy12.pdf#page=18
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/5vVNOYMXDzs
http://exscn.net/content/view/125/98/1/3/

#2358 - Renee Salen - (wife of Todd Salen), Ivy 35, Pg.5 1998, Organized Gothenburg Indie Conference as told by Antony Phillips, Ivy 11 Page 8 1993, COS Completions
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy35.pdf#page=5
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy11.pdf#page=8
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/renee-salen.html

oh I don't care, just glad it is corrected
What is your vote on the Ivy names Iisted in post #5310?

Sehlene was also a distributer of IVy
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy41.pdf#page=48

She also has/had a business at that address using the same name
http://www.reputationof.net/busines...ical-emporium/in/oxnard/california/reputation


George is already on the list jut adding more links
http://www.ansible.co.uk/writing/odyss02.html

I have nothing for Ole Hemningslose

Unless there's evidence where they're speaking out that they're using a pseudonym (and IVy magazine does mention when pseudonyms are used) Heiner Barten, Sehlene LeCornu, and Ole Hemningslose deserve to be added.
George Hay is already on the list with other links.

#2359 - Curt Ducker - Distributor of Excalibur Revisited, Ivy 14 Pg. 28, 1993, COS Completions
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy14.pdf#page=28
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/c/curt-ducker.html

#2360 - Gregory Mitchell - (son of Ilene Mumford), Declared 1981, Auditor, Electronics Engineer, Wrote Article in Ivy11.Pg9, 1993, Help Manage Dianasis, also info in synopsis on that page
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy11.pdf#page=9

#2361 - Bob Laidlaw - was member of Peter and Yvonne Gillham's Independent Scientology Center in Melbourne AU,Early 1960's, Wrote article in Ivy 11 Pg.9, 1996
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy11.pdf#page=9

#2362 - John Avery - Participated in The First Clearing Conference "Down Under" Australia 1996, Ivy 30, Pg. 33, COS Completions
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy30.pdf#page=33
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/john-avery.html

#2363 - Sehlene LeCornu - Wrote Ivy Article, Ivy 30 Pg. 17, 1997, Distributor of Ivy, Ivy 41, Pg. 48)
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy30.pdf#page=17
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy41.pdf#page=48

#2364 - Beth Guest - Dallas Org, Ivy 39, Pg.33 1998, Penned Open Letter To Scientology
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy39.pdf#page=33
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/beth$20guest

These three are from the TROM mailing list
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/


peter schanz
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/peter-schanz.html
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2004-August/date.html

Paul Tipon
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/paul-tipon.html
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2011-September/002568.html

Ludo Vermeulen
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/ludo-vermeulen.html
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2012-December/003588.html

#2365 - Peter Graham - St. Hill UK, from 1964- 1966, Wrote Article in Ivy with Beth Guest, Ivy 38 Pg. 38, 1998
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy38.pdf#page=38
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!t...pell:true/alt.clearing.technology/muMatyNfCqg

#2366 - Heiner Bartens - Staff Munich Org, CS (course Sup) , Cramming Officer, Letter to the Ivy, Ivy 37, Pg. 16 1998
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy37.pdf#page=16

#2367 - Ole Hemningslose - Wrote Letter to Ivy, Ivy 34. Pg. 13, 1997
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy34.pdf#page=13

#2368 - Krysia Frøkjaer - Declared SP, Enemy List, Listed as Idenics Processor, Ivy 35, Pg. 22, 1998, HCO Ethics Order 472
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy35.pdf#page=22
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/M1tFTWEm1ko
www.wilfriedhandl.com/blog/wp-content/.../SP-GROUPS-LIST1.pdf‎#page=13

Additional link for Shiona Fox-Ness
Letter of resignation
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/homer/cd5.memo

^ She is already on

#2369 - Peter Schanz - Listed in Trom Email archive, COS Completions
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2004-August/date.html
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/peter-schanz.html

#2370 - Paul Tipon - left after 20 years, Listed in Trom Email Archive, COS Completions
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2011-September/002568.html
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/paul-tipon.html

#2371 - Ludo Vermeulen - left after 11 years, Staff at Brussels Org, COS Completions, Honor Roll IAS
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/2012-December/003588.html
http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/ludo-vermeulen.html

our stats are WAY up and it's only Tuesday!
DM says that the people who have spoken out are only "A few bitter apostates"
MY ASS!!!!!
SCOHB Loser!!

2371 is a wee bit more than a few.
The only thing you don't exaggerate is your mounting FAIL

Ursula Staub
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/u/ursula-staub.html
spoke at Rons Org Convention, Bern, 2006
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nl.scientology/Xwhv_kxmoAY
Listed as expelled
www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf#page=40

Steve South
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/steve-south.html
Freezone Success story
http://freezone-tech.info/blog/tag/fz-success-story/

Eric Leese
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/prosp/prosperity057.html
Freezone Success story
http://freezone-tech.info/blog/2009/11/23/ot-3-completion-success-story/

Additional link for Lyn Keller
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy41.pdf#page=8

Additional link for Ron Blouch
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy41.pdf#page=19

additional link for Ed Dawson
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy52.pdf#page=22

Additional link for Bob Ross
Obituary
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy57.pdf#page=31

additional link for Meri Teitelman
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy57.pdf#page=18
She states she was clear no. 927

She is listed as clear in The Auditor No. 36 (this issue is not indexed at the
completions site but can be found on Mediafire)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/zznmzgz5udn/the-auditor-images-36-&-40-to-45.pdf

Alan Ambrose
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy45.pdf#page=21

There is also a letter from him in Reconnection 10 page 4


Confirmed by Cat's Squirrelon ESMB
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...d-abuse-expose&p=111953&viewfull=1#post111953

Konchok Penday on the list is a pseudonym

http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy48.pdf#page=12

LaMont Johnson
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/lamont-johnson.html

http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy46.pdf#page=42

http://web.archive.org/web/20010210155620/http://www.acs-tech.org/

Lamont and The Church of Spiritual Enlightenment are on the suppressive groups list
www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf#page=16
www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf#page=2

John Ramsey
Article in IVy
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy53.pdf#page=3
From the footnotes

Luca Terzi
Article Ivy
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy54.pdf#page=8

again the other list is still at 2209

take Konchok Penday off the list.
I will start the count at 2371.

starting at 2371 due to taking Penday off the list

#2371 - Ursula Staub - OTIII, Expelled List, Guest Speaker Ron's Org Convention, Bern, 2006, COS Completions
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nl.scientology/Xwhv_kxmoAY
www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf#page=40
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/u/ursula-staub.html

#2372 - Steve South - Freezone Success Story, COS Completions
http://freezone-tech.info/blog/tag/fz-success-story/
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/steve-south.html

#2373 - Eric Leese - Freezone Success Story, Listed on Prosperity 57 Honor Roll in COS Completions
http://freezone-tech.info/blog/2009/11/23/ot-3-completion-success-story/
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/prosp/prosperity057.html

#2374 - Alan Ambrose - left after 12 years, Appointed "Expansion Knight" by Diana Hubbard, St. Hill, UK, Wrote Article "The Masters" in the Ivy 45, Pg. 21, 2000, Confirmed by ESMB member
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...d-abuse-expose&p=111953&viewfull=1#post111953
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy45.pdf#page=21

#2375 - LaMont Johnson - Clearing Consultant, Case Supervisor Programmer trainee at NY Org, awarded "Kha Kahn" and "Gold Star" , First person assigned to establishing a mission for Celebrity Personalities, Opened and officiated many Missions.
Opened The Church of Spiritual Enlightenment, Advanced
Counseling Services, Inc. in CA. 1984, Listed on Suppressive Group's List, COS Completions
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy46.pdf#page=42
http://web.archive.org/web/20010210155620/http://www.acs-tech.org/
www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf#page=16
www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf#page=2
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/lamont-johnson.html

#2376 - John Ramsey - Sea Org, Wrote "Control" Article in Ivy 53, Page 3, 2001 , Founder of "Clearing Course"
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy53.pdf#page=3

#2377 - Luca Terzi - OTVI, Wrote Article "Distant Healing" in Ivy 53, Pg.3, 2001, Flag, St. Hill, UK
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy53.pdf#page=3

With Konchok on the list the count was at 2371.

Ok done, removing him took the number of names on the list to 2370
Which means the next person to be added will be the new #2371

...

What's the tally now, Midge?

fixed

Des O'Connor
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/impact/impact053sponsors.html
Production team for IVy
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy65.pdf#page=2

Birthe Skou
Production team for IVy
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/ivy01.pdf#page=2
Obituary
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy65.pdf#page=17

additional link Graham (Pip) Threlfall
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy66.pdf#page=22

Additional link for Ed Rhett
Letter to Ivy
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy67.pdf#page=17

Additional link for Rolf Krause
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy78.pdf#page=25

Additional link for Mark Jones
An article About Mark's life
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy75.pdf#page=44

Andrey and Irina Nor
Opened a Rons org in Vladivostok
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy70.pdf#page=32

Hugh and Madalena Meacham
Attended the RON'S ORG CONVENTION - 2005
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy75.pdf#page=42
Both did the SHSBC at Saint Hill
Ex Cos mission holders in Rio de Janeiro
From The auditor 45
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mmarnyj5erm/the-auditor-ww-45-1969.pdf


can't find much more but both appear on the current sp list
https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/current-sp-list-video-capture.115845/page-2#post-2401277

Roy Ash
Spoke at the Aust.& N.Z. Clearing Conf.Nov.1996
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy30.pdf#page=33
Clear 725
From the Auditor 35
http://www.mediafire.com/view/tkwwwwvmn24/the-auditor-ww-35-1968.pdf

Hm, I'm sort of conflicted about some of these 'ex's' who are 'freezone' (what-ever), and are still up to their eyeballs in LRon's drivel-pile. Anyone care to refresh me on what defines 'speaking out'? Its probably just me being derpy, but I'd hate to see the List get watered down by adding people who haven't really said much of anything other than 'Corporate/DM scilontology bad, but Hubbard scilontology good...blah-blah fz blah-blah'. I guess I have trouble separating shit from crap and think its all rubbish worthy of scorn and mockery.
*shrugz*

IMHO, you're being derpy, but that's just my opinion.

Speaking out against the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology will do very nicely for me. The ex-victims are free to continue to believe whatever they like, as far as I'm concerned. But, it's not my list.