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Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.

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  1. TrevAnon Member

    Would it be a good idea to once again check all the links on the big list because of March 29th Going Clear being shown on HBO? :confused:
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  3. Incredulicide Member

    An unregistered editor with the IP 79.230.203.215 tried to remove this entry from the wiki without comment. It's been reverted and a message left on their user page to first comment here.

    Each time it happens I mention it, thus increasing the likelihood that this thread will be in the google search results for that name as much as the wiki list is.
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  4. Incredulicide Member

    Done. My link checker found ~110 dead links and without googling I've resurrected ~80 of them, so of the remaining dead links here are the ones for the 14 names with no other speaking out links, and I need a nap now so others can google them :)
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  5. TrevAnon Member

    Incredible work! It's sad I can't like more than one time. Thanks a lot. :)

    Off to googling now.

    ETA - bolded where I couldn't find a link

    Tara Toucheck Bryant. Is on the Indie 550 list
    John S. Christen posted on Ortega's blog http://tonyortega.org/2013/02/09/sc...th-jon-atack-original-spin/#comment-794324897
    Dorothy Cruise Can't find a link
    Stephen Goodman Has a YT channel where he uploads videos, e.g.
    Rosalie Rose Lingenfelter Can't find a link
    J. Marius Jeanpierre posts on WWP https://whyweprotest.net/threads/you-dont-know-the-truth-about-scientology-i-do.110732/
    Theresa Laster posts at Rinder's blog http://www.mikerindersblog.org/one-family-torn-apart-is-too-many/#comment-53117
    Michael Maylam posts on ROn's org site (German) http://www.ronsorg.com/deutsch/michaelmaylamberichtdeutsch.htm
    Roger Meier Post on a Swiss newspaper site (german) http://bazonline.ch/basel/stadt/Wirbel-um-ScientologyStand-an-der-Muba/story/21084691?comments=1
    Alexandra Mityashina http://centerdialog.dp.ua/en/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=418&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=40
    Louise Nettle signed the petition to get COS tax exempt status removed http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stopscientology/signatures/8800 (Wtf? treasure trove?)
    Valerie Parker Can't find a link
    Frank Edwin Pate Can't find a link
    Alice Wu Lots of reports about her case but can't find a link this fast with her speaking out.

    So 5 to go.
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  8. RightOn Member

    crap! all those broken links. :(
    I will take a gander too for the remaining 5 too
    You 2 are rock stars
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  11. Incredulicide Member

    • Nora Beth Crest - left after 28 years - aka Nora Sova, Basketballjane - born in, Last Lifetime Clear, Sea Org for 5 years (Jan 1995-March 2000), GAT Trainee, recruiter, Celebrity Centre Int, PAC RPF (March 2000-November 2002), Flag 1996, Los Angeles - her story, blog, blog comment
    Most of this info was edited directly into the wiki, but she's a prolific enough commenter and puts the same profile pic everywhere to corroborate it. Also, it's not needed, but if someone's curious enough to sift through thousands of her tweets to pick one out about Scientology so I can add a link directly to that instead of her general twitter account, this is her: https://twitter.com/1RagingBuddha
  12. RightOn Member

    is all the editing that has been happening normal?
    Has it been happening more lately?
  13. Incredulicide Member

    I found and will use the original video report link: https://web.archive.org/web/2015030...o/201302/LATs_ScientologyTaiwan_2502_512k.mp4
    and news article: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-...ogy-denies-holding-woman-in-isolation/4539658

    More than people actually following the instructions to comment elsewhere instead of editing it directly, and unfortunately the "Visual Editor" is now the default set by wikia.com which totally mucks up the commented out mirror links and dead links, so even a genuine edit attempt like the one to add Nora Crest has to be cleaned up.
  14. TrevAnon Member

    Heh. Naamloos - kopie.png
  15. Incredulicide Member

    LOL well that explains that then :rolleyes:
    Here's an outtake from her edit:
    "Been speaking out for over a decade. Still waiting to face to face debate Danny Masterson."
    :cool:
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    Samara Hamilton is listed on the please confirm list
    here is another comment
    http://community.freezone-tech.info...ow-what-a-new-model-for-scientology/#comments
    and again listed here as we already know - Free and Able
    http://www.freeandable.com/business-listings/by-company/2182-hamilton.html
    Is it possible that she was Samara Schmidt? - who is in completions? Samara is not a real common name. But there is no tie between the 2 that I can find

    edit:
    well this sucks! Also found this from the Free and Able listing:
    "I am an abstract artist and the sole proprietor of On the Way Up Humanitarian Outreach which provides free copies of The Way to Happienss as well as The Truth About Drugs booklets and some basic hygiene items to residents of a treatment facility. I live in Euless, TX."

    so she is still disseminating COS crap?
  19. RightOn Member

    Valerie Hastings aka Valerie Parker-
    from the old busted link- I noticed it said Monterey Center in the link

    She is listed here as the registered agent for the business
    http://www.bizapedia.com/ca/THE-MONTEREY-CENTER-CORP.html

    on the Freezone page it lists her just as "Valerie" with her pic:
    http://fzusa.com/
    and when you click on her pic it goes to a Monterey Center about page - same address
    http://fzusa.com/reyaa.html

    AND finally! Here she is with her picture on the "who we are" page from the Monterey Center
    http://www.montereycenter.org/who-we-are/

    Listed with her is Ron Fitch who is also on the Big List as Ron A. Fitch and in completions
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/ron-fitch.html

    they offer the Purif! :(
    So they are exs that opened up a "woo" station
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  20. Incredulicide Member

    They also offer wooness services to "repair" people recovering from other wooness services!
    http://www.montereycenter.org/past-therapy-repair/

    We Help Those Who Need to Disengage From Cults
    At the Monterey Center our Past Therapy Handling is not only for people that have encountered past therapy mistakes and abuse, but for people who also have, are in the process of, or are considering disentangling from religious groups, gurus and teachers. Sometimes, it’s difficult to “get back to real life” and this is where our help is invaluable, as we deliver unbiased relief counseling, while often alleviating the original reason why the cults were sought after, in the first place.
    Some of the practices/teachings/teachers we have assisted people in unhooking from include:
    • Transcendental Meditation
    • The Way International
    • Nichirin-Shoshu
    • Diamond Heart
    • Da Free John
    • The Moonies
    • Scientology
    • Eckankar
    • Atmananda
    • Hare Krishna
    • Church of Satan
    • Jehovah’s Witness
    • Elizabeth Clair-Prophet
    • John Rogers & Insight Training
    • Abusive clergy (from any denomination)
    EDIT: "The Therapists Code" on that page is almost identical to "The Auditor's Code", just replacing the word "preclear" with "client".
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  21. RightOn Member

    yeah I saw that too
    some of these Indies are still very dangerous IMO
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  22. RightOn Member

    #2455 - Nora Beth Crest - left after 28 years - aka Nora Sova, Basketballjane - born in, Last Lifetime Clear, Sea Org for 5 years (Jan 1995-March 2000), GAT Trainee, recruiter, Celebrity Centre Int, PAC RPF (March 2000-November 2002), Flag 1996, Los Angeles - her story, blog, blog comment

    #2456 - Robert Hunter - Member of the Grateful Dead, was told by the COS to disconnect from friend, Rolling Stone Interview, his story
    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/f...s-early-days-wild-tours-sacred-songs-20150309

    he's a dabbler, but enough to take the TRS and be told to disconnect by the COS
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  24. RightOn Member

    hey, looks like Rolling Stone must have edited the article?
    this line :
    "They sent me these yellow sheets telling me to disconnect from one of my friends."

    What the article says now:
    At one point in the mid-Sixties, you also dabbled with Scientology.
    "For a short time. This was a brand new thing at the time. This fellow came down and was telling us fantastic things, like you get could get out of your body. All of that sounded great. But let's just say Scientology and I were not a very good match. I was pretty independent minded. Jerry came to one of the meetings. And he truly didn't care for it.
    We did these confronting drills and stared into each other's eyes for long periods of time and tried not to think without trying and not blink. [Chuckles]
    I gave it the good old college try but then moved into other forms of spiritual endeavors and yoga. I was a seeker at the time and this was one of the places I sought and it wasn't a good fit. In the end the Grateful Dead fit. I thought there was a possible holy perspective to the Grateful Dead, that what we were doing was almost sacred."

    So that line does not appear in the article online any more!
    But it does here in the WWP post by Wrong Guy:

    At one point in the mid-Sixties, you also dabbled with Scientology.
    For a short time. This was a brand new thing at the time. This fellow came down and was telling us fantastic things, like you get could get out of your body. All of that sounded great. But let's just say Scientology and I were not a very good match. I was pretty independent minded. They sent me these yellow sheets telling me to disconnect from one of my friends.
    Jerry came to one of the meetings. And he truly didn't care for it.
    We did these confronting drills and stared into each other's eyes for long periods of time and tried not to think without trying and not blink [chuckles]. I gave it the good old college try but then moved into other forms of spiritual endeavors and yoga. I was a seeker at the time, and this was one of the places I sought and it wasn't good fit. In the end the Grateful Dead fit. I thought there was a possible holy perspective to the Grateful Dead, that what we were doing was almost sacred.
    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/ro...y-days-and-sacred-songs-rolling-stone.124177/
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  25. RightOn Member

    if you can prove they were in
    I think that signing that petition is speaking out. (better back it up as you go, in case it disappears)
    They would have never before when they were in!
  26. TrevAnon Member

    I'll see what I can do. If I can work it out I'll post a separate thread with results.
  27. RightOn Member

    no not another thread. Gets all over the place
  28. TrevAnon Member

    I get your point. Of course I'll post results new for the list in this thread. But to have my work verifiable I'll post a thread with what I did, how, etc.

    Anyone an idea on how to do this? Back up a list on the wiki where the big list is also hosted?
  29. RightOn Member

    best to ask Incred about dat
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  31. Incredulicide Member

    Can you just use the "Needs Confirmation" thread?
    I think the "backing up" was just for each webpage of signatures to the wayback machine, like how you can see http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stopscientology/signatures/8800 is backed up at https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stopscientology/signatures/8800
    Instead of manually prepending that extra stuff in the URL bar each time you can just create this bookmarklet to click on in your browser's bookmarks toolbar from each page:
    Code:
    javascript:void(location.href='https://web.archive.org/web/*/'+location.href);
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  32. RightOn Member

    Oh I read that as an edit!
    Lemme fix
  33. Incredulicide Member

    • <- I use this bullet whenever I mention a new name, as in "another footbullet by Scientology."
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  35. Incredulicide Member

    ^ Not fast, but semi-automatic enough maybe?
  36. RightOn Member

    new vid link from Zac Hopkins

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  37. TrevAnon Member

    Sorry I missed this. Guess I am tired. :( Yawn.
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  39. RightOn Member

    Can't hit the COS completions page
    hiccup ? or other problem?
  40. TrevAnon Member

    No problem here.
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