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Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.

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  1. RightOn Member

    sniff sniff? Do I smell Bacon for Breakfast?
    Thanks Ex it!
    But we do need to be sure he was in. He is not in completions. I can't find him elsewhere yet.
    Calling TREV to the white phone!

    There is also a René Kraaz in that article that is not on the list.
    Can't look into it now, I have to run
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  3. Incredulicide Member

    I take it this ^ chiropractor is no longer firing employees that refuse to do Scientology training?
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  4. Anonymous Member

    According to Tony's report, the couple hasn't yet been declared and haven't as yet "spoken out." Perhaps both are in the pipes.
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  5. TrevAnon Member

    I'd say taking the COS to court is pretty much speaking out? :confused:
  6. Anonymous Member

    One may be inclined to believe that but I don't.

    For me, speaking out is a renunciation. Going to court is a business activity.
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  9. TrevAnon Member

    There's a lot of indies on the list, and IMHO there is nothing wrong with being an indie as long as you don't harm others by forced disconnection etc. etc. (Most of the indies turn out exes altogether anyway. Except for those M2 people.)

    Not saying she's an indie, but e.g. Leah Remini was added after she filed a missing person report for Shelley Miscavige. Back then she had not otherwise really said anything bad about the cult (or at least I don't remember she did).

    So I'd say add the Dettmers.
  10. Incredulicide Member

    We established long ago that suing the CoS is speaking out enough. I'm just dragging my feet on it in the hopes they become more outspoken in the meantime before they sign a gag agreement to settle, and while we wait for RightOn to add her vote :)
  11. Anonymous Member

    I'm quite far away from being fully aware of the entire criteria for the project, so don't let me dissuade anyone from choosing a case like the Dettmers to add to the list.

    If directing a lawsuit at the cult is regarded as 'speaking out' then so be it. :)

    If it was my project, I would draw a line at the independent cult members, but that's just me.
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  12. RightOn Member

    I vote yes. Court cases are speaking out,
    All Inides are welcomed on the list. Speaking out is speaking out.
    Do I agree with continuing the minfuck? hell no. Not one bit. I believe scientology is harmful whether they practice disconnection or not.
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  13. RightOn Member

    Will add new names tomorrow. Been out all weekend. dead tired
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  15. RightOn Member

    yawwwwnnn.... Mornin' all

    #2573 - John Dettmer - Suing The COS for $77,000 that they have on account, COS Completions
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/18/sc...ederal-lawsuit-over-refunds-but-with-a-twist/
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/john-dettmer.html

    #2574- Mary-Lou Dettmer - Clear 2006, Suing the COS for $77,000 they have on account, COS Completions
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/18/sc...ederal-lawsuit-over-refunds-but-with-a-twist/
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/m/mary-lou-dettmer.html
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    any more sauce on these?
  18. TrevAnon Member

    Oops, hadn't seen your request.

    Can't find anything on him (Bolzhauser) either.

    Kraaz is already on, and "Lucia K." might well be Krahenbuhl, also already on.
  19. RightOn Member


    Thanks Trev, I missed Renee's name because I searched with the " ' " on Renee
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  21. RightOn Member

    a few new names on the Free and Able List
    Donald Bumiller
    Amanda Vega-Silverman
    Catherine Kisaka
    Took a quick looky loo, didn't see anything.

    I wanted to add that the Indie 500 List is still not at 500 names yet, :rolleyes:
    and they have names on their that should be removed. People who are no longer Indies are still listed on there.
    Not very cool or credible!
  22. RightOn Member

    New names?

    Myk Walton Class VI Case: Sunshine RD (Sunrise)

    "The Hubbard Free Org began in early 2014 when Myk Walton left the church and took with him several others. Myk began a home based Org to deliver standard tech for the good of mankind, not the good of mankind’s wallet."

    Erik Arnett Class V 2011 Case: NED - there is an Eric Arnett in completions but the years don't match?

    Michael Diaz 1987 Class X Case: OT VIII - in compeltions, years don't match
    Trained to Class X in FZ Class VIII at Flag
    Handles the EO post and audits OT levels
    C/S

    Lisa Diaz aka Lisa Lamb Diaz- Class IX 1988 Case: OT V - in completions - but says 1991
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/lisa-diaz.html
    Trained at CC LV to Class IX at CC LV
    Specializes in Bridge, NED and OT Levels
    Lisa is also the C/S for the center.
    Registrar

    Margarita Zamudio Class III Case: Grade 2
    http://internationalfreezone.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml

    I need votes on these. there is a webpage on the Hubbard Free Org which shows their pics too.
    http://www.lisalambdiaz.com/hubbard-free-org/

    another link- said Myk left the church with a "team of others"
    http://independent-scientologists-association.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml
  23. RightOn Member

    Myk Walton runs the purif under Myk Walton Therapy in San Jacinto. NOT COOL!
    Looks like he wrote his on review! by Myk W.
    Incredibly professional for a house doctor.
    The therapy always leaves me feeling like I'm on a cloud.
    I would highly recommend this place to any one mo matter what faith or such they are of.
    This is purely professional help to anyone of any sort.
    I will keep returning here until I'm fixed. Which doesn't seem too far off.
    Who knew "alternative" medicine could be so useful and change my entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Everyone should give it a try.
    The prices too, $50 an hour. Plus all vitamin regiments and such is included.
    That's for the purification.
    The therapy is $30 an hour. Which is much cheaper than the $200/hour most places charge.
    Or $50 copays plus medication costs and this and that.
    This is purely $30 an hour. And you get everything you need.
    Very clean and peaceful home like environment feeling and!!!! I can't describe it. Just go!!

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/myk-walton-therapy-san-jacinto
  24. TrevAnon Member

    Did a search for the above, but didn't find anything useful which says they were in. So I have to vote no.
  25. RightOn Member

    "The Hubbard Free Org began in early 2014 when Myk Walton left the church and took with him several others. Myk began a home based Org to deliver standard tech for the good of mankind, not the good of mankind’s wallet."
    This was from Lisa's blog and was on the Freezone site. PLUS he is running the Purif.

    maybe cross post on ESMB to see if anyone knows them?
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  27. Incredulicide Member

    extra link for Bob Robinson - video
  28. RightOn Member

    Incred, need your vote on the names above. post #6582
    Please keep in mind that at the link also shows their pictures
  29. Incredulicide Member

    Two sources are enough for me, and the way both sites present the story of the people as a group means voting no on one person is saying they both lied about them being in and by proxy is voting no on them all, and since at least some of them are in completions I vote yes for Myk Walton, Lisa Diaz, Erik Arnett, Margarita Zamudio and Michael Diaz even with some missing or mismatched database entries.

    I do hope they wake all the way up soon, since Lisa Lamb-Diaz and Myk Walton are expecting a baby in June/July.

    Links to keep an eye on for possible future speaking out:
    Lisa: Youtube channel, Google+
    Myk: Youtube channel #1 and #2, Google+, Reverbnation
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  30. RightOn Member

    ok great ^ sorry for the delay, will add names later tonight.
    Don't know if they will wake up since their income is running the pruif and charging $100.00 a hour for auditing.:mad:
  31. RightOn Member

    #2575 - Myk Walton, Class VI, Opened The Hubbard Free Org in 2014 in San Jacinto, aka Myk Walton Therapy
    http://independent-scientologists-association.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml
    http://www.lisalambdiaz.com/hubbard-free-org/
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/myk-walton-therapy-san-jacinto

    #2576 - Erik Arnett Class V, NED - Works at The Hubbard Free Org, San Jacinto
    http://www.lisalambdiaz.com/hubbard-free-org/
    http://independent-scientologists-association.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml

    #2577 - Michael Diaz - OT VIII - Trained to Class X in FZ Class VIII at Flag, Works at The Hubbard Free Org, San Jacinto
    http://www.lisalambdiaz.com/hubbard-free-org/
    http://independent-scientologists-association.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml

    #2578 - Lisa Diaz aka Lisa Lamb Diaz - Class IX, OT V , Trained at CC LV to Class IX at CC LV, COS Completions, Works at The Hubbard Free Org, San Jacinto
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/lisa-diaz.html
    http://www.lisalambdiaz.com/hubbard-free-org/
    http://independent-scientologists-association.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml

    #2579 - Margarita Zamudio - Class III Case: Grade 2- Works at Hubbard Free Org, San Jacinto
    http://internationalfreezone.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml
    http://www.lisalambdiaz.com/hubbard-free-org/
    http://independent-scientologists-association.net/hubbard-free-org.shtml

    onward...
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    I wonder if the "Scientology trivia contest" questions about Hubbard will consider answers that are his actual history as correct, or only answers that match what he said about himself…
  35. RightOn Member


    lol
  36. Incredulicide Member

    Extra link for Chuck Beatty - video:
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  40. Incredulicide Member

    The Find-a-grave link from that wiki article says:
    "Deceased Name: WILLIAM T. PHELPS SR.

    He is survived by his wife, Susie Faye Phelps; three daughters, Sherry Dennis of Chesapeake, Bobbie Beard and husband Ed of Virginia Beach and Judy Riggs and husband Les of Newport, N.C.; a son, William T. Phelps Jr. and wife Pat of Chesapeake and their mother…"

    So there's one answer, that it's Phelps Junior that was in Scientology and now speaking out.
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