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Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.

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  1. TrevAnon Member

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  8. The Wrong Guy Member

    You guys are amazing.

    On behalf of many, thanks for your work in updating and maintaining the list.
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    thanks WG, you are also hella amazing
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  11. TrevAnon Member

    On second thought it may be good to review this one. Someone using her name - could well be herself - had set up a scam which was well published.

    http://free-from-scientology.blogspot.nl/2007/12/hightee-hana-butzlaff-scam-another.html

    She even got published by Dutch site GeenStijl: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2007/12/hightee_h_butzlaff.html

    So it could well be that Hightee did not post that comment on Jeff's site, but it was someone else using her name.

    Having doubts here. :confused:
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  13. Incredulicide Member

    So she was in and scamming eight years ago, no reason to think she isn't out now based on that. Plenty of former members on the list were doing scams as Scientologists. Par for the course it seems.
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    Ok, I can agree. :)
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  17. Incredulicide Member

    If he ever posts a youtube video it'll be on this channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/cherkas009/videos
  18. Incredulicide Member

    Just never added before AFAICT. The first mention is from 2010 with no reply:
    Adding her now as #2645
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  19. TrevAnon Member

    Just for old times sake I took a glance through the original thread that started the big list.

    Look where we are now RightOn! :)

    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/bi...-who-have-spoken-out.42319/page-7#post-890508
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  26. RightOn Member

    What is up with this name?
    Moshe Ivgy?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Ivgy
    "Ivgy experimented with Scientology, and spent some six months studying its teachings. He abandoned it, stating "it is an insane business... Those at the top earn billions and he (the average member) is destitute."[8]"
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  29. Incredulicide Member

    We definitely need evidence from somewhere other than himself that he was in before making any decision.

    Why? He says he was in from 2008, but he created a blog in December 2012 saying he'd only just discovered Scientology and had been looking at it (online) for 3 months:
    http://rickpeavlerjrandscientology.blogspot.com/2012/12/an-introduction-to-who-i-am.html
    It's entirely possible he switched from past tense to doing some kind of "present tense" diary-style entry as if it's from back in 2008 (the Sweeney doco he mentions seeing is "Scientology and Me" from 2007) but this isn't made clear at all. Unreliable narrator is a good reason to gather info from others about him.

    Then there's this from Smurf on ESMB:
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...ilon&p=1047460&viewfull=1#post1047460
    No videos yet on his youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0KnK1QGoh9c9LrfAQzWzFA/videos
    photo.jpg
    Doesn't smell so "fReSh" to me at the moment.
    We need someone that was at the Indianapolis Org in Indiana within the last 7 years to confirm they saw him "on staff."
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  34. RightOn Member

    no from me too
    What are your thoughts on Ivgy?
    can't find anything else on him
  35. TrevAnon Member

    Good enough for me.

    (So now we outvote Incred, lol. ;))
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    I beg to differ. We have quite often added people to the list when there was only such a comment, and AFAICT it's not a common name.

    LOL @ ventriloquist dummy. :D
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  39. Anonymous Member

    Okay. RightOn, Incred, and yourself are by far the best judges of these situations, so as usual, I defer to your best judgment.
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