Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.
Can you please screenshot the Google groups post? All I get at that link is a post by Elizabeth Ann Cox
(This post https://whyweprotest.net/goto/post?id=2580551#post-2580551)
Scroll down and you get this:
Someone with the IP 18.104.22.168 edited the wiki replacing a link of Darren Desepoli liking a facebook post with the text "Resigned May 2014", an edit I reverted leaving a message on that editor's talk page that such information needs to be supported with a link to speaking out.
- FB like for a post to a squirrel e-meter by the FB-account "Theta meter"
- This post https://whyweprotest.net/goto/post?id=2580560#post-2580560
Today's Tony Ortega Bunker: http://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-...e-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/
Could the October 25 and 27 postings be counted as speaking out?
At first she tried the "official" way using KR's. Then she posted on a closed forum (FB) for her friends only, and now it is out there in the open. Comparable to Ribisi's daughter (though less famous)?
FB says her name is Tayler Tweed (Tayler W. Bible)
At least this is another entry for whyaretheydead
She's listed on the Suicide wiki page with the aka Taylor DeBari.
Also, in one of the October 26 posts she has this:
Sadly, I don't think she ever left before killing herself. I read through everything. Although she has complained and wrote letters, I don't think she officially left?
IDK tough call!
#2702 - Paul Sherstobitoff, Clear, Auditor, Celebrity, COS Cookie Cutter page, Screen shot of FB like, COS Completions
(Stealing an RO line: )
This just in: the Indie 500 list still hasn't reached 500...
Srsly: just checked the names on the Indie 500, but found no one new.
ha ha I checked it yesterday too and thought the same thing!
And don't they have people on their list that are no longer Indies?
Which would make the number lower. Seems like they are padding their list with names that shouldn't be on there to make them look like a bigger group? Hmmmm, I wonder who else lies about numbers?
Just checked the free and able list at http://www.freeandable.com/business-listings/by-category/38-everyone.html . Some of these have already been discussed and need an extra check.
There is a David Smith on Free and Able, and there are several David Smiths in completions but it is a common name.
William Jones (Common name?)
There is an Oscar Avila Buitrago in completions http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/o/oscar-avila-buitrago.html
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...l-Are-Noticing&p=366245&viewfull=1#post366245 search for his name
- http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/f/fran-clark.html (notice the name!)
Wrote for Ivy: http://www.lightlink.com/archive/ivy/iv-10-11.txt
Credit to Another123 for this image
^ I have so stolen that to post on the Underground Bunker.
ftfy, the spelling with one "l" is a common mistake.
For Ron Jr there is only the link to the article. But as far as I can see, he is not quoted? How is that speaking out?
This ^ is the post that got Ronnie Miscavige Jr. added. Thoughts, RightOn?
Here's the thing, being an article by Tony Ortega (he wouldn't publish defectors names without getting their permission) I lean towards trusting his sources and keeping both Ronnie Miscavige and Jonathon Horwich on the list as knowingly allowing their names to be used in connection with an "SP".
But as that as the standard, we then have to also add this person:
because Robert Covington is also knowingly allowing his name to be used in connection with an "SP" in a Tony Ortega article.
So which is it: Lose two names or gain one?
Lol, easy choice. RO hates backpeddlin'
Husband of Teresa Marks
Extra links for two names already on:
Wilberta Findlay - video interview
Roger Weller - video interview
There's a third person in this video whose name is not on the list, Janette Allen. We probably need to share this video on ESMB/OCMB to see if she had a different surname while in and is already on the list under Jan, Jane, or Janet for her first name. If not, yay another new name!
There's a Jane Allen in completions - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/jane-allen.html
Ex it, how did you link the "Teresa" in that comment to Teresa Marks?
Her post is on the same blog and says her husband's name is Daniel, but doesn't mention his last name.
If there's a comment where she does or someone else on the list confirms it then it's probably enough to add him. Previously their was a need to confirm from RightOn's post about him back in March 2014.
#2703 - Frankie Clark - too many aka's to list!, Clear Dec 1978, Auditor, Founding Patron, Patron, blog comment, COS Completions
#2704 - Frank Gordon - International Viewpoints (IVy) Issue 10 - January 1993 post, confirmed "in" by Chuck Beatty on ESMB
#2704 - Russell Stockdale - let after two years, his story on International Viewpoints (IVy), Issue 35 - January 1998, named mentioned ESMB post
yes, and no back peddlin'
LMK if you get ab answer on Wentzel
so... that means Robert Covington gets a number
I'll make it easier for you. Bob's wife in the interview quotes him:
“At the end of March,” Heather says, “Taylor did call and asked for some things from her dad. So Bob brought them to her, and Bob said she just put her head down [avoiding eye contact].”
Is that description by him of the Disconnection policy in action as he witnessed it enough?
Well, the only link here is, they are posting at a time delay of only 1 hour, besides the other link you also found where Teresa Marks is talking about her husband Daniel.
Thinking of other people on the list for only "liking" a FB comment, I think this is enough proof.
At least to add Daniel Wentzel to the list for talking about leaving with his wife.
Maybe without the link to Teresa Marks, but I did not find him on the list.
We don't need more proof of him speaking out than there is, what we need is corroborative proof that he was in with that name and not speaking out using a pseudonym. In the absence of an entry in the completions database (which those with the FB likes have), confirmation from another person already on the list that knew him while in by that name, like a possible spouse who happens to mention their different last names, is enough.
Karla Zamudio is already on the list. However, you might want to add that she is the Co-Writer (adaptation) and Producer of the film Escape based on the book Blown for Good:
Sadly not the same Frank Gordon in IVy as Chuck mentions he "was working in the Motorpool, in March 2003, when I left" ten years after the IVy post, so we can't add him.
Ok, to put all the undecided thing together here's a roundup.
First my own post. Plox to (re)assess these names.
Second Incred's post. If we have Ron Jr on then Robert gets to have a number.
Third Incred's 2nd post. Alas, Frank has to go.
#2705 - Robert Covington - Clearwater - article, COS Completions
I think if you are going to embed the completions link in a post it should be embedded in the words "COS Completions" , not their name
A LOT of people going to the Wiki are not tech savvy and won't realize they have any courses under their belt
I just re-examined http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/grdchart1.gif and noticed "Objectives completion" is actually on the bridge instead of a side-course, so I'll change it to mention that specifically on the wiki.
Who's the guy front and center in this screenshot from the 20/20 interview? He never got to say anything let alone his name. Likely on the cutting room floor
Everyone else is already on the list
Warren M. Young aka Skip Young
Shelly Britt aka Shelly Corrias
Karen De La Carriere
Gary Morehead aka Jackson Morehead
#2706 - David Haskins - Estate Manager for East Grinstead Org UK, Drummer for COS house band with Ron Miscavige, Blog comment, his story
Extra links to video clips from the 20/20 show for these people already on:
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