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Big List of THOUSANDS of Exes Who Have Spoken Out

Discussion in 'Projects' started by RightOn, Jun 26, 2009.

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  1. moarxenu Member

    Just so I can cite to journalists - when did we reach 1400, 1500, 1600?
  2. RightOn Member

    hey Moar I just got in from Friday...

    will try to check on this tomorrow when I get some shut eye
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  3. RightOn Member

  4. RightOn Member

    I started the list in June 2009
    the list hit 1000 on April 11th 2010
    it hit 1502 at June 21st 2011
    I think those are the most important milestones
    2000 should be the next one.

    edited We are curently at 1665
    on to 2000
  5. Anonymous Member

    Martin Duggan was 1665 so who is the "last name"?
  6. RightOn Member

    yep you are correct.
    I have vacation burn out
  7. RightOn Member

  8. moarxenu Member

    Thanks~! Just what I need. The stats would seem to indicate that defections are snowballing.
  9. RightOn Member

    ;)
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  11. Anonymous Member

    Indeed. Such pages should never be linked in the wiki except for the articles.
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  12. Sautez Member

    This is what I found from Norman Kaye on that thread:
    'I recall later when the Sup told me per the earlier weeks event to bring all our original LRH books in to the Org as they all were being replaced as Miscavige said because MU’s were in them or something. I said to the Sup I already put my originals in the commercial bin as It was said we had to junk them.
    The Sup was like put them in the bin!! Oh no, the dustbin men might read em and pick up all those MU’s. This was bad.'
    ///
    It does not sound like this person is leaving. He was just instructed to throw old books out. But maybe you meant many more will leave due to the book 'burning.'
    I will read the above posts here in case I missed something.
  13. jensting Member

    Ehrm, they might... To me, they show 1000 entries into the table in 10 months, 500 additional entries in the next 13 months and 170 in the next three months. (Approx, corrections welcome since I'm being a pedant :) )

    But that ignores the fact that we're including old and new defections in the list which is the reason that the rate of defections per time unit will not show until someone finds the actual data and digs up 1000+ dates of leaving (the list only includes date of leaving occasionally).

    I dearly love the list, but my statistics aren't up to making "snowballing" out of the three numbers quoted - sorry!

    tl;dr. Who knows if there is snowballing in there, someone could go find out (hint!)

    Keep up the excellent work, is what I meant to say :)

    Best Regards

    Jens
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  14. Anonymous Member

    Less than a third of the total entries even have a "left after x years", so the 1000+ dates of leaving doesn't exist.
  15. RightOn Member

    I have been away and unable to work on the list, so I got up at 6:30 this morning to search.
    FIVE MORE!
    It was worth it! lol yay!

    Marta Rodas- left after 11 years, Class V auditor and OT XVI, Columbia, blog comment
    http://silviakusada.wordpress.com/meet-the-independents/

    Stefania Gori - left after 15 years, OTVII Denmark, her story
    http://silviakusada.wordpress.com/stefania-gori-declaration-of-ind/
    she also mentions her husband as being out, but not his name

    Stuart Kaufman - blog comment,
    http://silviakusada.wordpress.com/my-story-in-short/
    ^confimred in COS Completions

    Denis Seignez - blog comment, and wrote editorial for the Ivy #104, 2009, ESMB thread
    http://silviakusada.wordpress.com/my-story-in-short/
    http://www.ivymag.org/cyberivy/CiContentTitles.htm
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?24748-Looking-for-old-friends

    Maurice Pascal- Non-commissioned officer 5, Rundown specialist and C/S of 5 Class Grad, listed with Silvia Kusada, Italian Blog, Center for Advanced Spiritual Research and its Applications
    http://cforsranda.wordpress.com/versione-italiana-successi/
    http://mauricepascal.wordpress.com/2011/04/
    http://laversioneitaliana.wordpress.com/

    need confirmations on the following names:
    Madde Tunedal
    Jerry Tunedal
    these two were pictured on an Indy site with other Indies.
    I think Madde and Jerry may be the kids of Stephan Tunedal's?
    Do not know if they were ever in COS?
    http://silviakusada.wordpress.com/meet-the-independents/
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  17. RightOn Member

    and by me! lol!!

    oh well five it is!
  18. RightOn Member

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  20. RightOn Member

    very cool thanks!
    kudos to Estelle for stepping out
  21. RightOn Member

    It is with great pleasure and honor that I add the followig name:

    Todd Harkleroad- left after 6 months, Atlanta Org

    This was a PM from Todd himself
    Welcome Todd you are number 1673!!
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  22. Anonymous Member

    How is a PM publicly speaking out?
  23. Triumph Member

    He is publicly speaking out by requesting his name be added to the list
  24. RightOn Member

    that is correct
    thank you Tri
  25. Anonymous Member

    So that we can link to it, can you put the request part of the PM in quotes in a post here? Thanks.
  26. RightOn Member

    I don't know why this is being requested. In the other thread he said he would contact me "as soon as the plane touched down"
    and then he contacted me via PM.
    His PM:

    "Todd Harkleroad 6 months in Scientology at the Atlanta Org during 2006. Left after taking a handful of courses, and observing that the place was really nothing more than a failing disorganizd business."
    Robatl, Yesterday at 11:42 AM
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  27. Anonymous Member

    Thank you for that, now we know there was another thread. I didn't see a link to it given.
  28. RightOn Member

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  31. RightOn Member

    A revision needed.
    Can a wikier please add three words on to the intro of the list ASAP?

    it now says
    IMPORTANT NOTE: Please verify all names before adding! This means finding a form of media where a person has spoken out against Scientology, such as news interviews, books, articles, forums, or personal websites

    it needs to be changed to:

    IMPORTANT NOTE: Please verify all names before adding! This means finding a form of media where a person has spoken out against the Church of Scientology, such as news interviews, books, articles, forums, or personal websites...

    Many people still practice Scientology who are on the list, so this needs to be changed.
    That one line can stop some people from wanting to be added to the list and that's not good.
    thanks!!!
  32. Anonymous Member

    Done.
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  33. RightOn Member

    YAY!!!!
    Anon delivers as always
    <3!
  34. RightOn Member

    Can anyone confirm a Andrew Robertson? as being in?
    halp
  35. Anonymous Member

  36. Anonymous Member

    Introducing number 1675:

    Samuel Anthony Travolta - left after 10 years - John Travolta's nephew - interview
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  37. telomere Member

    That account is a little confused, and I'm not sure how long he was involved with Scientology.
    It sounds like he was involved in 1997 (and perhaps prior) and then again briefly in 2007, but possibly not for the 10 years in between. Originally Public(?) but Staff in the end. He goes on to talk about how life sucks as Org Staff, and some swipes at his dad and the OSA Psyches who keep trying to drug him.

    tl;dr
    JT sucketh LRH weener
    and spreadeth teh aids wherever he can
  38. RightOn Member

  39. Anonymous Member

    If you continue to do what the CoS wants you to, even if they have to "catch up" with you for it, then you never really "left" in the first place.
  40. Anonymous Member

    Rafael Gómez (note the accent) is already on the list.
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