Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Felice Green's son is Derek Green Mentions of Felice Green on Why We Protest 1. Bernie Green (deceased) is apparently Derek's father, according to http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Scientology/go.txt 2. Suppressive Persons http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/auditor-magazine-30-years-worth-49331/7/#post938501 3. (there is no Felice Green on this list - is this her, remarried?) from http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/sp-list-6575/#post693253
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find I had a brief search myself Don when I watched the videos and the past videos when she mentions the story. I guess it is upto to the mother or the boy himself as to wether they wish to come forward at some point
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find I disagree. I'm concerned about this man and would like to know he's all right. Of course, it's his right not to tell me and to refuse all contact with anyone, but I see no harm in trying to find him. I have absolutely no idea what he'd want, and I have no idea what I'd want if I'd been abused the way he was; the way Hubbard treated him is utterly unimaginable to me. But it's certainly possible that if people tracked me down, I'd interpret it to mean they cared about me, and if those people said they were working to make sure no child was ever again abused by CoS, that might make me feel better. Maybe that's what he feels.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find I knew Felice Green quite well from Flag in 1976, and she is a lovely lady. She showed me her Clear bracelet #26 and told stories of LRH. Warm heart, lots of curly hair, bubbly personality. If you find her let me know. I would be happy to talk with her again.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Derek Green is the four year old child. A Derek Green I am a Scientologist page is a different person, decades younger than the boy on the ship, with a mother named Joan: at Scientology - Derek Green a Scientologist - find out what I have gained from Scientology... H ello, my name is Derek Green, and here is a little bit about myself:
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find I disagree. By all means, send messages of love into the four winds and announce to the world that the door is open to him, that support awaits and shelter is available. - But - to actively set out track him down, to my tiny mind anyway, invites the assorted anon techno-whizz kids and wannabe spies to turn this into a game of: "Where In The Words Is . . ." so as to come up with some poster-boy in a campaign he may well wish to have not part of. He is one of many victims and it is only by accident that his name and his suffering is known to us. To actively pursue him, in public, could well cause harm and drive him further into the wilderness. In this situation, and with respect, may I suggest that his needs outweigh yours.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Maybe my grey matter is stale today but wasn't the kid from the chainlocker id'd quite a while back? And yes Cris, it'd certainly be heart warming to know he came out of that nightmare okay (I don't have a good feeling about it tho), so much twisted shit and so many children raped/mindraped, fucking LRon the psychotic sadist...grrrrrrrrr........ It is a big reason 'why' imho. Thank you Don for adding your last post, it conflicts a bit with what I heard the reasoning was, which was the kid ate a piece of fax paper, but this is assuming there was only this incidence, I am pretty sure that is was not and that he was just one of many to experience the wonders of 'the source' at work. DM is just a 'chip offa da ol' block', ol' windbag Rotten Ronny Flubtard was da queen of mean weirdness.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find So, does any ex-Scientologist know Derek Green? His father told some stories: from http://members.chello.nl/mgormez/books/malko/epilogue.htm Bernie accused of being in a squirrel group, 1970, at http://www.tr-l.org/mott0262.htm 1972, Bernie with Paulette Cooper: from http://www.scientology-lies.com/scientology-concepts/guardian-office.html
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Derek was 4 years old WAY back when in Hanna's story. so he must be in his 40's now?
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Welcome to Anonymous! Although I don't see it as a game. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's not the feeling I get about this. I think people are genuinely concerned and want to know if he's all right. And I have confidence, perhaps unwarranted, that people will respect his boundaries. You're completely right. We just disagree about whether it's okay to look for him. I also don't assume he's alive. If he is dead, that's public record, and I want to know about it. We can't find out if no one looks. I don't have a good feeling either. That's part of why I want to know what happened.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Duh. Picking on who? I choose you! (really ya silly goat, he'd be near 50 now) doi.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Oh, FFS calm down. Looking for someone != picking on someone. This is Anonymous, there is no we. If you don't want to look for him, don't look.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Ex-Scientologist message board asked about Derek Green but nobody wrote in with any new data. Scientology: Secret Lives - L. Ron Hubbard - Ex Scientologist Message Board
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find No, you silly goose, I was referring to the Derek Green who loves pizza and riding his bike. He's an innocent with a weirdo mother yet his details are being splashed about here with gay abandon. And, yeah, fair enuff, $cientology chose to splash his details onto the internet in the first place . . . . . . I have a queasy feeling about this. Best if I shut up.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Blip those pages are from the late 1990's so that different Derek is likely in his twenties, now, and I'm not asking to investigate him; I knew people would google Derek and find that page, and I'm stating why it couldn't be him.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find There ya go. You seem like a nice person, and you're obviously intelligent because you're using something I wrote as your sig line ;-) But you're not quite getting it. This is Project Chanology; it is Anonymous plus other kinds of people (some would say too many soccer moms). It started with the chans. Maybe a trip to 4chan (is 888chan up?) or SomethingAwful would help you assess things. The Something Awful Forums 4chan
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Oh, God no! That Palace of the Puerile where the hallways and ballrooms have been taken over by third-rate young, dumb and full of cum Beavis & Butthead impersonators still struggling with spots and spoof in stumbling attempts at post-adolescence. I'd rather gargle Hubbard's piss. Still, I appreciate the sig and well intentioned suggestion. Where did you say the soccer mums hang out?
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find It was 1968 when self-appointed, "Commodore" of his pretend navy, the sea-org., L. Ron Hubbard ordered 4 1/2 yr old into the chain lockers of the Apollo for 48 hours in dark, cold isolation for his perceived "crimes". Scientology tries to promote this child abusing convicted fraud as a great humanitarian, what a disgrace.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Please do so as you really don't have a point. Its more likely that Derek Green does not remember this trauma but I have no doubt this horrible incident would have had a negative impact in his life, one way or another. Hopefully,he left the cult and chose REAL counseling & support to help him overcome this trauma.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find It seems to me that there has been at least 3 different times where a very young child has been imprisoned in a chain locker: One 5 year old boy being accused of stealing jewelry. One 4 1/2 year boy being accused of eating a telex. One 5-ish boy who could not spell his own name. No docs, so cocks etc.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find over there. whyweprotest.net is a Palace of Puerile where the hallways and ballrooms are haunted by the ghosts of /b/retheren and threadbare fro's of nigras gone white, the pool has been chlorinated and disinfected, lulz regulated and the effective moraltards wandered off anyway, leaving only the disaffected, the discarded, and Sue.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find I remember hearing about the last two, but the jewelry story is new to me. No dox here, either; I heard these stories in interviews or speeches. Hana Whitfield was one; can't remember the others.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find i'm not much help, but there was a 50 something lady who protested in london maybe a year ago, who was a child on the apollo and was also put in the chain locker. i don't remember her name, but maybe some of the london ex's might know her? she might be able to help.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Thank you for your post. It does help. This Anon post is one of the reasons it's good to look for the people who were tortured, and I mean tortured, in this way. I wouldn't be surprised if Hubbard locked many children in chain lockers, and his abuse needs to be widely publicized. Partly to destroy the foundation of the Martyologists' "Hubbard good, Miscavige bad" argument, mainly because the public has a right to know that the CoS Kirstie "watch me diet" Alley, John Travolta and Tom Cruise promote in the media is a gigantic con.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Their was a Miss green in the SO at ASHO in LA ca, in the late 70s
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Indeed it appears there were many children that were locked in the chain locker, Derek Green being one of them. I found this after a very brief search; I don't doubt that there is more out there with regard to such claims. Involuntary lock up of Scientologist children FLAG ORDER 1630 , 3 December 1968 by L. Ron Hubbard If a child or these children are found in Hold l _or_ any hidden compartment of the ship they are to be locked up.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find We know who you mean. UKfags have it covered.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Wasn't her name Charmaine? Seem to remember watching a few vids from a year or so ago with her talking with Anons at a raid.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find No - when she first landed on the forums after attending a protest, she went by the nick "Tamasin" and her story is on both ESMB and OCMB. nowadays she goes under the Sharone Stainworth on ESMB, and she piped up on the hamburg symposium thread over there about knowing Hana (who was instrumental in getting off the ship) and Hana in turn acknowledged she remembered Sharone.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Yep, that's who I was thinking of...Sharone/Tamasin.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Nice. I noticed a recent comment from her on ScienceBlogs too - I love to see exes getting their stories out to the rest of the world, using their real names.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find Simply following LRH policy constitutes child abuse in and of itself , it has been going on for decades and continues to this very day. To scientologists it's perfectly "normal" for parents to sign their 13 year olds over to the Sea-Org and allow them to sign the 1 billion year contracts, long work hours, limited sleep and overcrowded living accomodations.
Re: Boy in chain locker, son of Felice Green, help find An number of children were placed in the chain locker on Hubbard's orders. It's likely that a 4 year old would not remember, or would block out, the experience. Leave this person alone. If anyone wants to speak out he or she can.
