Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files E-mails were already sent to Dr. Nietling about the violation of his, and his wife's, audit files and directing them to the video. I'm still trying to find contact info for Victoria Garrison and the others whose names are visible in the videos.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files I smoke pot myself - but it's kind of a bigger deal when you promote yourself ("Narcanon") as the single greatest method to combat drug addiction, and use that claim to raise funds and even receive official support from many judicial districts.* *There are courts that still mandate people attend Narcanon classes or face longer jail times. I have opposed this for a long time - I also oppose the same courts doing the same thing with Alcoholics Anonymous (a religious program) which is a violation of the constitution in that it creates a situation where an athiest could be forced to attend a religious program or face a longer sentence. I'm not an athiest either btw - I just believe in ALL people's rights.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files I think he's doing it for attention, which he's certainly gotten. Scientology calls this kind of humor joking and degrading, lol . I bet his father is a scilon. What better way get your parents to stop forcing scientology on you and not let you get high anymore? Mock the cult on youtube! At least the folders where not real PC folders. He had me on that one for a second, lol.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Never said he went through Narcanon, so you have a pointless argument.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Your assumption the same Anon wrote both posts suggests your imagination implant needs servicing.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files NoScope, you might want to try and totally wash the sciloniness out of you. I wondered why you said something Scientologists say, and then learned in the response that it's because you're an ex-scientologist. "Prove it" is a statement repeatedly used by vaLLarrr (YouTube scilon) as a diversionary tactic, when by itself it sounds much too vague and unspecific (especially when the person who says it is not strategic about the statement, and what constitutes proof differs from person to person). Just saying.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Guys, the PC archives had to be moved to the Ideal Org. PERIOD. In the video you can see daylight, this was a temporary storage or a cleaning up of folders before moving to Ideal Org. Who cares that some guy was alone for a few minutes. Sure it is creepy and violates some cult security... But I don't see what is in these videos that is anything more then interesting.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files "Prove it" is also the nicer version of Dox or GTFO. Just saying.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Did you know the cult ships pc folders around the country via FedEx etc?
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files This is almost exactly what I was thinking. I thought with all the wacky ufo talk that he might have had some prior experiences with NRM's, but could also be explained by too much pot and X-files dvds. Anyway I like your breakdown, and think it's the most likely scenario.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files The little details are irrelevent. What is important is the picture perfect timing in which this stuff came out. Even if by accident, it was pretty cool that it came out so close after the SP articles were released. Its like an Epic cascade of fail for Co$
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Don't get NarcAnon mixed up with NarcOnon. Doing that makes Wee Davey happy.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files THANK you. The whole POINT behind the NarCONon moniker is to make confusing the two easier (also, i don't think Narcotics Anonymous uses "NarcAnon" as an abbreviation internally, though I've seen NA--I used to work for a medical professional who worked with addction issues). We should make it more difficult for them to get away with that, and thus be careful to differentiate.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files I think you're refering to conditions, they're listed here: Understanding Scientology / Chapter 11: Ethics -- The Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics Treason is listed as the second-to-lowest condition. I don't think you get automatically fired when you're in a low condition, but I am not sure. IIRC, the conditions depend solely on the changes in your statistics. The things you mentioned might lead to sec-checks, but not as such to lower conditions, if I'm not mistaken, which I may be.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Thanks for the clarifications! Sometimes my lack of fluency with the wingnuttier aspects of Scienoculture-related Sci-vocabulary REALLY shows.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files So.... Whats the conclusion here? Fake or No? Worthy or worthless? I just read the entire thread and see a lot of conflicting theories. Im leaning more toward legit, but then again I have not seen all the videos so my opinion is worthless.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files I find a few "Victoria Garrison"s listed in whitepages for the Dallas area.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files I'm thinking legit. Dunno about worthy. It doesn't tell us much that we don't already know. However the PC folder video should get some scilons worried about exactly who is put in charge of guarding their "priest/parishioner" confessionals. And if a gang-bang sec check does result from this leak it will be quite lulzy.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files 1. The folders were just laying around for him and his mate to read and presumably anyone else. The fact he appears to have only "peeked" at a couple on camera, while making comments suggesting he may have more than peeked at a couple more makes no difference to the fact the confidential files were not secure from him, his mate and presumable many others. 2. I agree, goofy. 3. Why dox? "presumably" presents a theory to which you can agree or disagree, neither side can be sure of their position. I have a different theory BUT would not presume to demand dox from another. 4. I agree, speculation but good point - 3 is also speculative too. 5. Yep, his own documentation has him at 24 although he acts and looks somewhat younger I know other 20+ people who similarly act and look younger than their age. 6. Well if it doesn't match it may well be a crime, no knowledge was presented that it didn't in fact match - again speculative so demand for link a bit harsh. 7. Actually have not seen a video of him obviously smoking pot. He behaves like he has being smoking it. He's seen smoking a pipe but I did not see weed being placed in the pipe. He does not claim to be smoking pot in the few videos I've seen; has anyone seen a video of him actually smoking pot. Smoking tobacco cures cancer and protects against radiation and pipes are also an image thing I can imagine him being keen on.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Jim Halpert: Question: What kind of bear is best? Dwight: That's a ridiculous question. Jim Halpert: False. Black Bear. Dwight: Well that's debatable, there are basically two schools of thought.. Jim Halpert: Fact: Bears eat beets. Dwight: Oh.. Jim Halpert: Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Garrison, Garrison, where have I heard that name before.... Oh wait.... "Scientology is bad, Mmm'K? Coincidence? I think not.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files keep the copypasta coming, for being a nut on cam he has a wierd way of typing. Im afraid to IM him myself, personally.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Narconon = cult scam. Alcoholics Anonymous = support group for alcoholics. Aka AA. Narcotics Anonymous = support group for drug addicts. Aka NA. Al-Anon = support group for family and friends of alcoholics. Nar-Anon = support group for family and friends of drug addicts. It's definitely meant to confuse, but the naming conventions of the support groups aren't consistent anyhow.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files I queried N.A. World Services on this issue several years ago. Thier response was that they cannot comment on other programs (per their Twelve Traditions), but they DID start something of a PR campaign to make sure members call their program N.A. -- and N.A. ONLY -- never NarcAnon.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Anonymous (11:02): kback Anonymous (11:02): so were pretty excited to have someone with connections inside Anonymous (11:02): at this point i wonder what kind of dirt you can dig up itsrooobwallace (11:02): well, if i wanted to maintain that it might be smart to take the videos down, no? itsrooobwallace (11:02): Naturally Anonymous (11:03): yeah prolly.... we have the videos copied Anonymous (11:03): your contacts inside should be maintained Anonymous (11:03): we have needed a mole for over 9000 years Anonymous (11:04): so i wonder what you can tell us about the operations of the org in dallas Anonymous (11:04): who is in charge Anonymous (11:04): etc Anonymous (11:04): were you there when DM showed up? itsrooobwallace (11:06): I was not. I had left right before the grand opening. My roommates were there, I was not. itsrooobwallace (11:06): are you in Houston? Anonymous (11:06): do your room mates know you are talking to anons itsrooobwallace (11:07): no, I have moved out from with them. My new roommates do though Anonymous (11:07): have you considered putting a mask on and going to the next protest Anonymous (11:07): getting to know anons locally may prove wise, ofc... maybe not itsrooobwallace (11:08): i was questioned about anons when i was there, everybody was.Italked to anons when i worked there, took a call held a conversation. my friend walked across the street and was talking to protestors. Anonymous (11:08): right on... itsrooobwallace (11:08): You in houston? Anonymous (11:08): could be itsrooobwallace (11:08): anybody in Dallas here I could meet up with now? Anonymous (11:08): doubtful Anonymous (11:08): anonymous by nature are very distrusting Anonymous (11:08): esp of ex-culties Anonymous (11:09): you would be wise to remain anonymous when communicating with us Anonymous (11:09): we have all your dox Anonymous (11:09): some, are not as kind as others Anonymous (11:09): so be careful Anonymous(11:10): NoScope on whyweprotest.net Anonymous (11:10): he is a dallas leaderfag Anonymous (11:10): you may want to contact him. itsrooobwallace (11:10): alright. itsrooobwallace (11:10): leaderfag? itsrooobwallace (11:10): unfavorable to you? Anonymous (11:10): everyone in anon is a fag Anonymous (11:11): our culture is interesting itsrooobwallace (11:11): lol. itsrooobwallace (11:11): seriously? Anonymous (11:11): i mean... not like.... gay Anonymous (11:11): but we all hate each other it seems to the outsider itsrooobwallace (11:11): oh Anonymous (11:11): pretty much itsrooobwallace (11:11): that is gay Anonymous (11:11): but gay people are cool Anonymous(11:12): we all think your gay to be honest itsrooobwallace (11:12): Whhhhatttt. Anonymous(11:12): hahah yeah itsrooobwallace (11:12): Really Anonymous (11:12): have you not read your thread? itsrooobwallace (11:12): thats rediculous. itsrooobwallace (11:12): Iv seen some speculation Anonymous (11:12): its like... so what... Anonymous (11:12): if you love dick you love dick itsrooobwallace (11:12): yeah, well, on an official capacity I'm an asexual Anonymous (11:12): hahah right on itsrooobwallace (11:12): alright then itsrooobwallace (11:12): okay itsrooobwallace (11:13): well you have my number i take it Anonymous(11:13): yeah we all do itsrooobwallace (11:13): yeah Anonymous (11:13): you posted it online Anonymous (11:13): XD itsrooobwallace (11:13): no one has called so there's your tally on that itsrooobwallace (11:13): I posted it? Anonymous (11:13): your twitter itsrooobwallace (11:13): oh yeah itsrooobwallace (11:13): thats right, that sounds like something I would do. itsrooobwallace (11:14): okay, well, havea great day. Anonymous (11:14): well be in touch itsrooobwallace (11:14): alright then.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Something just dosent seem right. Just my two cents though.
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Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files A perfect example of why the Anon-speak often needs to be dropped when trying to milk info from outsiders.
Re: Breaking: Scientology Confidential Files Then perhaps you need to contact the mother fucker if you don't like what im saying to him. Seriously though, someone else contact him... i suck at talking to people.