I hear the vote to leave the EU was yesterday. Being a lazy summertime faggot I have not been keeping up. So I was shocked this morning to see a headline about the UK voting to leave the EU and Cameron stepping down. I wondered if this was clickbait. But no, truefax. My wife asked, "Why? Who is leading the anti-EU effort?" I guessed marketing --slick PR that hits buttons combined with constant repetition. Same thing that has people fighting GMOs and other perfectly reasonable things here in the US. Then I learned there was a pro-Brexit movie that gave me a Zeitgeist vibe and I was like, "oh shit I was right." Quick summary for my fellow retarded citizens:
There's now talk of Scotland voting to exit the UK since it voted 62% to remain in EU. Likewise there's talk of Northern Ireland, with 56% voting for EU, re-uniting with Ireland. Even Gibraltar, which voted 96% in favor of remaining might establish a closer relation with Spain. http://abcnews.go.com/International/brexit-vote-prompts-talk-uk-breakup/story?id=40099409&yptr=yahoo
I welcome our Scottish brothers with open arms into the EU The UK wil be littarly decapitated. Can you Imagine signs that say 'Welcome to the EU' on the Brittish Isle when you enter Scotland
Brexit: Petition for second EU referendum so popular the government site's crashing It cites the result as too close given the turnout http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-the-government-sites-crashing-a7099996.html
http://www.theweek.co.uk/eu-referendum/73880/will-there-be-a-second-eu-referendum Will there be a second EU referendum? Jun 23, 2016Leading figures on the Leave side have suggested they could demand another vote
Yup I think the last Scottish independence referendum would have had a very different outcome had it been held now.
Yes, but it would still be part of Britan. If you wish to troll the English / Welsh for voting out I'm fine with that, I'm just pointing out that your geography sucks.
So do I. It looks pretty likeley that there will be a second referendum for Scotish inependance soon.
And Ireland is part of the British Isles If Scotland go then a united Ireland would be for the best because fuck England. Sinn Fein are looking a border poll and this would be their best chance since Northern Ireland was created. Also, dual nationality is handy at times like these.
Northern Ireland concerns me more than Scotland because if I recall correctly the Good Friday agreement has some basis in EU membership. If Sinn Fein calls for re-unification I’m concerned how the DUP will react.
Brexit is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions By Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept. June 25, 2016 Quote: The decision by UK voters to leave the EU is such a glaring repudiation of the wisdom and relevance of elite political and media institutions that – for once – their failures have become a prominent part of the storyline. Media reaction to the Brexit vote falls into two general categories: (1) earnest, candid attempts to understand what motivated voters to make this choice, even if that means indicting one’s own establishment circles, and (2) petulant, self-serving, simple-minded attacks on disobedient pro-leave voters for being primitive, xenophobic bigots (and stupid to boot), all to evade any reckoning with their own responsibility. Virtually every reaction that falls into the former category emphasizes the profound failures of western establishment factions; these institutions have spawned pervasive misery and inequality, only to spew condescending scorn at their victims when they object. The Los Angeles Times‘ Vincent Bevins, in an outstanding and concise analysis, wrote that “both Brexit and Trumpism are the very, very wrong answers to legitimate questions that urban elites have refused to ask for thirty years”; in particular, “since the 1980s the elites in rich countries have overplayed their hand, taking all the gains for themselves and just covering their ears when anyone else talks, and now they are watching in horror as voters revolt.” The British journalist Tom Ewing, in a comprehensive Brexit explanation, said the same dynamic driving the UK vote prevails in Europe and North America as well: “the arrogance of neoliberal elites in constructing a politics designed to sideline and work around democracy while leaving democracy formally intact.” In an interview with The New Statesman, the political philosopher Michael Sandel also said that the dynamics driving the pro-Brexit sentiment were now dominant throughout the west generally: “a large constituency of working-class voters feel that not only has the economy left them behind, but so has the culture, that the sources of their dignity, the dignity of labour, have been eroded and mocked by developments with globalisation, the rise of finance, the attention that is lavished by parties across the political spectrum on economic and financial elites, the technocratic emphasis of the established political parties.” After the market-venerating radicalism of Reagan and Thatcher, he said, “the centre left” – Blair and Clinton and various European parties – “managed to regain political office but failed to reimagine the mission and purpose of social democracy, which became empty and obsolete.” Three Guardian writers sounded similar themes about elite media ignorance, stemming from their homogeneity and detachment from the citizenry. John Harris quoted a Manchester voter as explaining that “if you’ve got money, you vote in. If you haven’t got money, you vote out,” and Harris added: “most of the media ... failed to see this coming ... The alienation of the people charged with documenting the national mood from the people who actually define it is one of the ruptures that has led to this moment.” Gary Younge similarly denounced “a section of the London-based commentariat [that] anthropologised the British working class as though they were a lesser evolved breed from distant parts, all too often portraying them as bigots who did not know what was good for them.” Ian Jack’s article was headlined “In this Brexit vote, the poor turned on an elite who ignored them,” and he described how “gradually the sight of empty towns and shuttered shops became normalised or forgotten.” Headlines like this one from The Guardian in 2014 were prescient but largely ignored: Though there were some exceptions, establishment political and media elites in the UK were vehemently united against Brexit, but their decreed wisdom was ignored, even scorned. That has happened time and again. As their fundamental failures become more evident to all, these elites have lost credibility, lost influence, and lost the ability to dictate outcomes. Continued here: https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25...ailure-of-western-establishment-institutions/
Arlene's all smiles and smugness while Ian Paisley Jr is going for Hypocrite of the Year by urging us all to apply for Irish Passports. Theresa Villiers has said there will be no border poll because the conditions haven't been met. Quite frankly Sinn Fein have every right to be angry at such a high-handed dismissal. I'm from the Unionist tribe and am pretty pissed off at the way Westminster and the DUP seem to think democracy only applies over here when it suits them.
And in answer to the piece Wrong Guy quoted, it simply boils down to xenophobia and racism. The British are being screwed over by the government (which only the English get to elect). Instead of blaming Westminster, they're sucking up tabloid lies from The Sun and Daily Mail that it's the fault of Eastern Europeans taking our jerbs, that we're going to be flooded by Syrians and Sharia law is just around the corner. Go outside of London and England is not a welcoming place unless you're white and English.
Nigel Farage admits there WON'T be extra £350m for NHS - within HOUR of Brexit result http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-admits-wont-extra-8271594
lol wat, implement a new rule retrospectively because you don't like the result. LOLOLOL. Such keeness to revisit while completely ignoring the fact it pretty much undermines the whole democratic process.
I know, lol. Saw interview with someone who voted to leave because "I didn't think my vote counted. If I'd known it did count, I would've voted to remain." oopsy
http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-brexit-2nd-referendum-petition-a-4-chan-prank-bbc-report-it-as-real/ Those channers. What merry pranksters.
The thousands of signatures from North Korea kind of gave it away. In other news, the roaches are crawling out in daylight. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eu-referendum-racism_uk_576fe161e4b08d2c56396075?edition=uk
The elites in the US hate people in the fly over states. Looks like England has the same issue. The elites don't understand, and constantly demean, those they rule. Those being ruled realize this, and resent being ruled by people who call them racist, stupid, etc. What a conundrum. Also, HuffPo. what a joker you are.
Yeah, they resent them so much they voted them right back in. HuffPo wasn't the only source for the material, just a handy link. Guardian and Independent have similar reports, so sorry I couldn't find a Daily Mail one for you.
Sigh, I was so proud to see Brexit not mentioned with a word on this forum, well, until now. Xenophobia and racism are the result of poverty, disenfranchisement and loss of hope. The unwashed classes need someone to blame, be it the EU, immigrants or Westminster (or all of them). I've been following the debate fairly tightly (Brexit will possibly have some quite profound implications fir us Scandinavians), and I think writing this all off as xenophobia is missing the point. I'd say Greenwald called it right.
It's hardly a very slick Koch-style machine being behind it all. First off, this is Europe, not the US. Secondly, had this been the work of a well oiled PR-machine, it would not have taken the entire political establishment by surprise. The main reason is probably anti-establishment feeling, much like those that has propelled Trumph to where he is.
There are electoral rules stipulating the maximum amount that a political party is allowed to spend campaigning in the UK. Unfortunately we have a very right wing press who were pushing for Brexit.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...n-london-trump-brexit-labour-column/86405874/ and Read it all. It's interesting.
From Tyler Durden at zerohedge Just to repeat the important line: "They cross the line moving from an economic union to a political subordination of Europe."