Discussion in 'Scientology and Anonymous' started by amaX, Aug 19, 2011.
This is good news! Now let us mock the big strong young security guard who bawwed!
SCIENTOLOGY TAKES IT IN THE BUTT AGAIN
Good on ya, Mom. Congratulations.
Well done, AMA2! I'm so happy for ya!!
*love, hugs and blessings*
Congrats to you AND your excellent lawyers!
Grats AMA, and just to be clear, being a bullying (dumb)asshole isn't limited to the CofS.
Awesome win is awesome!
Now for your listening:
Take that! Dumbass co$ lawyer bullies.
wonder who's going to get sent to the RPF for this one?
AWESOME!! Congrats AMA!! Yippeee
Wonderful news that is!!
Someone at the Cleveland Building just heard the news...
Caek for you AMA2. )
Who shat one the caek?? Ewwww...
Delighted for you AMA. It's shit you had to suffer being arrested in the first place, but your compensation is being able to show the Cult isn't able to make false charges stick.
*surprised failcase went as far as it did*
Wonderful news, AMA2. Another cult failure, another chip in its foundation.
Great news! BTW, I think you mean Tom Dandar, not Tim. [My mistake; I think Tim is Tom's son?] And for anyone else interested, an "information" in criminal procedure is basically an "indictment," except only a grand jury can indict. When the prosecution "indicts" they are said to have returned an "information." It's antiquated legalese and extra confusing because "information" has a more familiar usage.
Wonderful news AMA! I didn't doubt for a moment that this would be the end result!
The Matrix will be displeased.
Way to go AMA2!
Yay, AMA2!! Happy is as happy does.
Does this mean that we can see video of the incident now?
Congrats AMA2 and a big thank you to your lawyers.
A question for Tikk: I understand that legally speaking, everyone has a right to their protections under the law and each situation needs to be assessed on its merits; I agree with this. But overall, do you think scientology's shenanigans are wearing thin in the legal community?
Good question and the answer is Yes and No. Every court room is different, so it's not as if the legal community en masse has 'had it up to here' with Scientology (and I'm not clear what they could do about it if they actually were). They're mostly aware of its reputation as litigious or 'nasty' but lots of organizations are litigious. In a lot of ways there's nothing especially outrageous about Scientology's legal tactics because they're routinely employed elsewhere in high-end legal warfare. The difference is that Scientology spends lots of money to ruin individuals who can't really match them dollar for dollar. There nearest parallel scenario is the RIAA going after supposed illegal music/movie downloaders. If the 'legal community' hears about a particular Scientology horror story I think it's just another horror story to them, but most are aware of their reputation and it isn't good.
They remind me of certain situations with the tobacco industry, in that way.
Clear and concise as usual. Thanks Tikk.
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Could you use more donations for your legal expenses?
Congratulations AMA! It's beer time here in Europe, here's to you!
Eh Tikk, for those of us whose English is a second language, would you try one more?
Keep in mind that CoS will still count this as a win.
Using police and courts to hassle a protestor.
The aggravation and expense of getting a lawyer, jumping through legal hoops and delay, delay...
They will continue to talk about how a protestor was arrested and won't mention that the charges were dropped.
Any expenses of their own (small because it was on the public dime) will just be regged from the IAS.
When the police charge you with a crime it's actually essentially a proposal, which the prosecutor argues before a grand jury, which deliberates alone as to whether probable cause existed for the charge, and if so, returns an indictment, and a criminal case is subsequently initiated against you. Less serious crimes do not require a grand jury, so the prosecutor's proposal of the charges is called an information (instead of an indictment).
Some states use grand juries for all crimes (e.g., NY -- I once served on a month-long grand jury); some states use grand juries for serious crimes only (e.g., FL); and a few states have done away with grand juries altogether (I think PA).
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