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  1. The Internet Member

    Back before all this started, when the Charlottesville council debated renaming the park and removing civil war statues, I would have supported the "Emancipation Park" name change but I probably would have argued to leave the statues there as historical items. The statues of Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson were commissioned a hundred years ago, in 1917. They are artifacts that can be used to illuminate history.

    The Confederate revival that emerged during the civil rights movement in the 1950s is the weird shit worth removing from our shared public spaces. Like the Dukes of Hazard flag which people now call the "Confederate flag" even though the actual flag for the Confederacy was different. I don't put the statues of Lee and Jackson in that category.

    But now that the damn KKK and Richard Spencer and Trump are all standing up for my ancestor Robert E Lee, seems like we gotta take the statue down for the sake of civility. But don't destroy it! Just move it to a museum.
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    "8. On whether he was comparing counter-protesters and white supremacists
    "You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left. You've just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that's the way it is."
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    Obama's tweet after Charlottesville becomes the most-liked tweet ever | TheHill


    Former President Obama’s tweet sharing a message against racism is officially the most-liked tweet ever.

    Obama posted a tweet sharing a quote from Nelson Mandela that condemned racism just hours after a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va. turned violent.

    The tweet became the most popular of all time on Tuesday night, with more than 2.7 million likes, three days after it was posted.

    "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..." Obama wrote in the tweet.

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    Republicans denounce bigotry after Trump's latest Charlottesville remarks | The Guardian

    Reactions to the president’s controversial press conference saw the party split into those willing to condemn Trump by name and those who would not

    ‘Wow, that was something else’: Incredulous Jake Tapper amazed by Trump’s ‘stunning’ press conference

    CNN’s Jake Tapper on Tuesday reacted in shock to Donald Trump’s incredible press conference, wherein the president insisted “both sides” were to blame for the deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    “Good afternoon, and welcome to ‘The Lead,’” Tapper began. “Wow, that was something else.”

    “President Trump, amid the backlash over his conflicting tweets and statements, going off in extraordinary fashion,” Tapper explained, noting a press conference billed about infrastructure quickly turned into “the president strongly defending his initial response to the Charlottesville violence.”

    Van Jones on Trump's Charlottesville remarks: 'I'm just hurt' | CNN

    Tearing up Tuesday night, Van Jones said it "hurt" that President Trump blamed "both sides" for violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia over the weekend. One woman was killed and 19 others injured when a car drove into a crowd of counterprotesters. The suspected driver has been charged with second-degree murder.

    "We are spiraling away from each other and you want the President to be the person who comes and grabs us by the hands and pulls us back together," Jones told CNN's Anderson Cooper on "AC360."

    "He's actually cheerleading for one side and defending one side," he added. "He's not defending the humanity of the people who were run over."

    Fox News Host Kat Timpf Absolutely Goes Off on ‘Disgusting’ Trump Presser

    “It’s crazy for me to have to comment because I’m still in the phase where I’m wondering if it was actually real life what I just watched,” Timpf said.

    The White House Talking Points on Charlottesville | The Atlantic

    'The President Was Entirely Correct'

    President Trump’s remarks on the deadly white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville have sparked widespread outrage. But the White House is asking congressional Republicans to follow his lead.
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  6. "These violent, leftist protesters are the brainless robots that are created by evil Soros money. The white ones have been taught to hate their color, the women are taught to hate their men, blacks and minorities want to kill whites and police. Then they have the audacity to call conservatives racist. Their own racism, hate and violence has created the divide among those that refused to be bullied anymore. They’re getting exactly what they asked for. A segregated society of groups that they’ve created and even labeled themselves.”

    Trump's base in New Mexico loses a leader. Good for the Republicans, that they had this guy in charge at all is a shock. He says he didn't know about the violence.
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    Charlottesville White Supremacist Rally | The Jim Jefferies Show | Comedy Central

    Jim addresses the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville, as well as the president's lackluster response.

    Breaking Crazy: Donald Trump's Charlottesville Press Conference | Late Night with Seth Meyers

    Seth breaks down the crazy that came out of President Trump's most recent press conference, where he seemed to side with white supremacists in the wake of the events in Charlottesville.

    Take A Side, Mr. President: Nazis Or Not Nazis| The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

    Stephen digs into President Trump's off-script/off-the-rocker press conference in which he contradicted statements given on Monday condemning hate groups.
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    Apparently the alt-right have some "lulzy" videos of protesters getting hit by cars that they circulate and comment upon. Here's one:

    Below is a recent article about one such video hosted on Tucker Carlson's website:

    Daily Caller Once Advised How to ‘Plow Through’ Liberal Protesters With a Car (UPDATED)
    by Aidan McLaughlin | 3:52 pm, August 15th, 2017

    The Daily Caller in January posted a video compilation of “cars plowing through protesters,” instructing readers to “Study the technique” as “it may prove useful in the next four years.”

    The video was compiled by Mike Raust, the Daily Caller’s video editor. It features a number of clips of people in cars and trucks driving through protestors blocking roads.

    “If you are easily triggered, stop watching now,” a text at the start of the video reads. “Too late,” the next text says, as a truck drives through a protester. The compilation is set to a terrible acoustic rendition of Ludacris’ 2002 hit “Move Bitch.”

    In an accompanying caption, Raust wrote: “Here’s a compilation of liberal protesters getting pushed out of the way by cars and trucks. Study the technique; it may prove useful in the next four years” — ostensibly a reference to protests in response to Donald Trump’spresidency.

    “None of these clips are new, but that doesn’t mean they’re not still fresh,” Raust concluded.

    The astonishingly tone-deaf post was published on Tucker Carlson’s website, as well as Fox News website Fox Nation. It has begun to attract attention and outrage on social media in light of the weekend’s terror attack in Charlottesville.

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    Heather Heyer's Dad Speaks About Forgiveness

  10. No you lying fucker you went to Bedminster to play GOLF!

    You are a disgrace to our nation and the sooner you are impeached the better our chances are of an improvement on how this country of ours is run.

    Trump you are NOT MY PRESIDENT.

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    Trump’s business advisory councils disband as chief executives repudiate president over Charlottesville views

    By Jena McGregor, The Washington Post


    President Trump’s relationship with the American business community suffered a major setback on Wednesday as the president was forced to shut down his major business advisory councils after corporate leaders repudiated his comments on the violence in Charlottesville this weekend.

    Trump announced the disbanding of the two councils — the Strategy & Policy Forum and the Manufacturing Council, which hosted many of the top corporate leaders in America — amid a growing uproar by chief executives furious over Trump's decision to equate the actions of white supremacists and protesters in remarks Tuesday at Trump Tower.

    Earlier Wednesday, the CEOs of Campbell Soup and the conglomerate 3M resigned from the manufacturing council. “Racism and murder are unequivocally reprehensible and are not morally equivalent to anything else that happened in Charlottesville,” Campbell Soup chief executive Denise Morrison said. “I believe the president should have been — and still needs to be — unambiguous on that post.”

    As the number of resignations swelled, Trump announced on Twitter afternoon that he'd shut down the councils. “Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum. I am ending both,” he wrote.

    The dissolution of the councils was a remarkable moment for Trump, who has made his corporate experience and ability to leverage America's business potential as one of his chief credentials. It also marks a rapid descent for a president who has alternatively praised and attacked the decisions of corporate leaders, sometimes making unverified or false claims, and whose policy choices on issues like immigration and climate change have been criticized as anti-business.

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    Hey gais I apparently live under a rock because I had no idea cars ramming protesters was a thing in the US. My first thought after watching the Charlottesville vid was, "he probably got the idea from those incidents in Europe."

    I do remember something about cars pushing protesters at Standing Rock and the subsequent talk of bills in some states essentially de-criminalizing car-v-pedestrian injuries when a group of protesters blocks a street; don't know if any of those became law.

    This incident in Charlottesville --I know the name of the victim, Heather Heyer. I know the killer's name, James Alex Fields Jr. But I don't know anything about the poor people in the vid above who must have been seriously hurt or even killed. I don't know who drove the cars and I don't know if they were arrested. I don't remember any politicians condemning people using automobiles as weapons of terror.

    I wonder why I'm so ignorant. Was this stuff in the news and I was hella busy or something?

    The video montage above is not the actual one that Mr. Mike Raust put on the Daily Caller web site in January 2017. That had been taken down. But somebody re-uploaded it yesterday.

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    Twitter and Cloudflare are latest to take aim at the Daily Stormer, neo-Nazi website | Washington Times

    Twitter and Cloudflare have followed in the footsteps of fellow internet titans GoDaddy, Google and Facebook by taking action against the Daily Stormer, a white supremacist website that’s been all but driven offline after mocking the woman killed while protesting a white nationalist rally this weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Doxxing White Supremacists Is Making Them Terrified | Broadly

    “It’s hard to get a job, hard to make a living, hard to have a normal social life when all your friends and family know you believe in ethnic cleansing.”

    Comedian Sues Neo-Nazi Daily Stormer as Site Resurfaces From Dark Web | The New York Times


    The comedian and writer Dean Obeidallah filed a defamation lawsuit against the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer on Wednesday, around the same time that the website briefly resurfaced from the dark web with a Russian domain name.

    The website was live at its new address,, for a few hours, days after the site had been booted by GoDaddy, Google and a Chinese registrar, for posting an offensive article about Heather D. Heyer, the paralegal who died during the demonstrations in Charlottesville, Va., on Saturday when a man with far-right views plowed a car into a crowd of counterprotesters.

    The Daily Stormer falsely claimed in June that Mr. Obeidallah, who is Muslim-American, was the “mastermind” behind the bombing in Manchester, England, and Mr. Obeidallah began receiving death threats.

    “Some of them actually believe I’m a terrorist,” he said.

    An article on the revived website on Wednesday morning praised President Trump, claiming that his friendly relationship with Vladimir V. Putin was responsible for the site’s new home. “The Daily Stormer never dies!” the article exclaimed.

    The website was no longer available by the afternoon.

    Johnathan J. Smith, a lawyer for Mr. Obeidallah, said in a conference call with reporters that the site’s new domain registration placed it “away from any ability for America to hold it accountable.”

    “We find the content on some of these sites repugnant,” said Samantha Spielman, a spokeswoman for CloudFlare, when asked about The Daily Stormer. “While our policy is to not comment on any user specifically, we are cooperating with law enforcement in any investigation.”

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    GrumpySoF.U.‏ @AsphaltWolf 7 minutes ago
    @TeaPainUSA TANGO DOWN!: Anonymous takes out in relentless attack against The Daily Stormer after domain escapes to Russia.

    Dean(o) Xerox ‏ @TweeterSurfer 4 minutes ago
    DailyStormer is down on all fronts. .com .wang. .ru .onion, it's gone. R.I.P. for now. You can't keep a good goy down, Anglin will be back.

    Andrew Anglin (AndrewAnglin) on Gab
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    Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 1 hour ago
    Statement from IBM CEO Ginni Rometty to employees makes clear CEOs chose to disband the President's Strategy and Policy Forum, not Trump.
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    Jonathan Swan‏ @jonathanvswan now
    Some of Stephen Miller's colleagues find his quote about friendship, here, hilarious.

    What Steve Bannon thinks about Charlottesville

    By Jonathan Swan, Axios


    On Tuesday night, while Gary Cohn was fuming about President Trump's latest comments, Steve Bannon was excitedly telling friends and associates that the "globalists" were in mass freakout mode.
    • Today, Bannon reveled in the disbanding of the president's business council, seeing this as yet more evidence that the Trump administration is at odds with the "Davos crowd," as Bannon often calls these corporate elites, in a voice dripping with contempt.
    • Bannon saw Trump's now-infamous Tuesday afternoon press conference not as the lowest point in his presidency, but as a "defining moment," where Trump decided to fully abandon the "globalists" and side with "his people."
    • Per a source with knowledge: "Steve was proud of how [Trump] stood up to the braying mob of reporters" in the Tuesday press conference.
    This account of Bannon's thinking has come from conversations with his friends and associates who've been in touch with him since the racist carnage in Charlottesville.

    Bannon has not meaningfully advised the president about his response to Charlottesville. He's still on the outs with Trump, who has been calling him a leaker for weeks, though the president described Bannon as a good person on Tuesday.
    • They spoke by phone on Saturday, Sunday and Monday, according to a source with knowledge of the calls, but the response to Charlottesville has been all Trump, and Trump at his purest.
    • On the phone to Bannon, Trump asked his chief strategist "where does it end?" according to a source with knowledge of their conversations.
    • Trump wasn't referring to the white supremacists, but to the counter-protesters whom the president believes are on a slippery slope towards "changing history" by tearing down monuments of Confederate heroes and potentially, he has said, the Founding Fathers like George Washington, who owned slaves.
    Bannon, who is in New York today, has a view of Trump's Charlottesville response that horrifies many of his West Wing colleagues:
    • Unlike some of Trump's other top aides — who have varied on a spectrum between frustration and disgust since the president's Charlottesville remarks — Bannon has unapologetically supported Trump's instinct to apportion blame to "both sides."
    • Sources who've spoken with Bannon since Charlottesville say he views this moment as analogous to the campaign moment when Hillary Clinton condemned half of Trump's supporters to a "basket of deplorables."
    • Bannon believes that if Trump condemned all the people who protested the pulling down of the Robert E. Lee statue then he'd fall into a trap set by leftists, the establishments of both parties, and the mainstream media. (Some of Bannon's colleagues say this is an absurd argument. They point out it was a crowd of white supremacists holding tiki torches and chanting racist slogans, and that this is no time for the president to be searching for the "fine people" in the group. They say Trump should be condemning the tiki torch crowd unequivocally and leaving the debate over statues and free speech to another, less racially-heated, day.)
    Bottom line:Both Trump and Bannon are of one mind, and, within the White House at least, theirs is a minority view. They saw the backlash to Charlottesville as an example of political correctness run amok and instinctively searched for "their" people in that group of protesters. Bannon has told associates that Trump, on Tuesday afternoon, took it to the next level for the country by asking where does it end? He especially loved Trump's line: "I wonder, is it George Washington next week?"

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    Bannon's colleagues disturbed by interview with left-wing publication

    By Jonathan Swan, Axios


    Steve Bannon either feels incredibly secure in his White House job or it's a case of forgetting to tell a reporter "this is off the record," à la Anthony Scaramucci with Ryan Lizza. (Knowing Bannon a little bit, I can't imagine he intended this interview to be on the record.)

    Either way, Bannon's White House colleagues can't believe what they're reading tonight.

    Here's what one of Bannon's colleagues — somebody who's not an enemy of his — told me after reading the piece: "Since Steve apparently enjoys casually undermining U.S. national security, I'll put this in terms he'll understand: This is DEFCON 1-level bad."

    Some had never heard of the American Prospect, but they have now. It's a left-wing publication that Bannon apparently called on Tuesday to air his raw thoughts about his colleagues, undercut the president's North Korea policy, and preview a coming economic war with China.

    Here are some things that Bannon's colleagues tell me bother them about the interview — an article that appears to be so well-read that it's crashing the American Prospect's servers:
    • The liberal journalist Bannon called — Robert Kuttner — is no friend of Trump's. As Kuttner writes, "I'd just published a column on how China was profiting from the U.S.-North Korea nuclear brinkmanship, and it included some choice words about Bannon's boss. 'In Kim, Trump has met his match,' I wrote. 'The risk of two arrogant fools blundering into a nuclear exchange is more serious than at any time since October 1962.'"
    • Bannon undercut the president's stance on North Korea: "Contrary to Trump's threat of fire and fury, Bannon said: 'There's no military solution [to North Korea's nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don't die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don't know what you're talking about, there's no military solution here, they got us."
    • He openly talked about his internal fights with colleagues: "That's a fight I fight every day here," he said. "We're still fighting. There's Treasury and [National Economic Council chair] Gary Cohn and Goldman Sachs lobbying."
    • He talked about changing personnel in a way that made him sound like the president:"I'm changing out people at East Asian Defense; I'm getting hawks in. I'm getting Susan Thornton [acting head of East Asian and Pacific Affairs] out at State."
    The $64 million question: As one of Bannon's colleagues — again, somebody who is generally sympathetic to him — asked me after reading the piece: "What will Kelly do when he sees this?"

    Bottom line: The piece gives Bannon's enemies ammunition at a time he's extraordinarily vulnerable. They've been saying he's a leaker, a self-promoter, "President Bannon," etc. This interview plays right into their hands.

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    Armed, paranoid, wigged-out and possibly snorting something.

    One of Trump's "fine people", I'm sure.
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    This was posted earlier and reposted here Completely
    These are talking points for when republicans are interviewed.


    The President was entirely correct -- both sides of the violence in Charlottesville acted inappropriately, and bear some responsibility.
    Despite the criticism, the President reaffirmed some of our most important Founding principles: We are equal in the eyes of our Creator, equal under the law, and equal under our Constitution.
    He has been a voice for unity and calm, encouraging the country to “rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that brings us together as Americans.”
    He called for the end of violence on all sides so that no more innocent lives would be lost.
    The President condemned - with no ambiguity - the hate groups fueled by bigotry and racism over the weekend, and did so by name yesterday, but for the media that will never be enough.
    The media reacted with hysteria to the notion that counter-protesters showed up with clubs spoiling for a fight, a fact that reporters on the ground have repeatedly stated.
    Even a New York Times reporter tweeted that she “saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park.”
    The local ACLU chapter also tweeted that
    We should not overlook the facts just because the media finds them inconvenient:
    From cop killing and violence at political rallies, to shooting at Congressmen at a practice baseball game, extremists on the left have engaged in terrible acts of violence.
    The President is taking swift action to hold violent hate groups accountable.
    The DOJ has opened a civil rights investigation into this weekend’s deadly car attack.
    Last Thursday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) announced it had completed the largest prosecution of white supremacists in the nation’s history.
    Leaders and the media in our country should join the president in trying to unite and heal our country rather than incite more division."
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    Man misidentified as Charlottesville driver had to flee home; plans to sue far-right sites

    By Oliver Darcy, CNN


    In the immediate aftermath of the Charlottesville terror attack, the far-right website GotNews posted what seemed like a huge scoop. The website said it could "exclusively reveal" that the person who had run over a group of demonstrators in a Dodge Charger was not a white nationalist, but instead a critic of President Donald Trump.

    The Michigan man GotNews had identified was in fact not the driver. He was not even in Virginia at the time. But within hours he and his family had been forced to flee their home at the advice of local police, who expressed concern for their safety after a slew of death threats rolled in.

    The family's flight from their home capped off a feverish attempt by right-wing sleuths to discover the culprit behind the Charlottesville attack and dig into his or her history, seemingly in hopes of proving the person was not of a right-wing political persuasion.

    To be sure, GotNews wasn't the first outlet to peddle the false report. There had been similar chatter online on places like 4Chan and Twitter, and other far-right publications also ran with the false story. But GotNews wrote about the man who was wrongly identified, Joel Vangheluwe, and his family, in perhaps the most confident terms of any publication. It retracted that story not long after it was published.

    "You want to talk about fake news -- dear lord, some of these folks," Andrew Sommerman, an attorney for the Vangheluwe family, told CNNMoney in an interview this week. Sommerman added that the family intends to pursue legal action against the online publications that peddled the misinformation.

    The sleuthing performed by these activists was not very complex. Images from the scene of the deadly attack had captured the vehicle and its license plate number. GotNews said in its story, which carried no byline, that it then ran a license plate search which returned a registration result for Jerome Vangheluwe.

    "A Facebook crawl of his relatives reveals the car was in the possession of his son, Joel," the GotNews story said, seemingly in reference to one 2011 post in which Joel had taken a photo of the vehicle and said it would be his when he turned 16.

    But GotNews and the other sleuths and publications were wrong. The car was not "in the possession" of Joel. The vehicle did once belong to his father, Jerome, but the family had sold it years ago. Moreover, police later identified the driver as James Alex Fields Jr., a 20-year-old who held extremist white nationalist views.

    GotNews soon issued a retraction, said it regretted the error, and apologized to the family. Its founder, Charles Johnson, told CNNMoney in an email his website "merely reported on the existence of the evidence" and suggested he'd be happy to discuss the matter further with the Vangheluwe family attorney. (Johnson later tried to retroactively declare his comments off-the-record, said if they were published he would work to get this reporter "fired from CNN," and warned this reporter not to "make the mistake of making me an enemy.")

    Yet, as typically happens, before the facts could catch up in the aftermath of the attack, misinformation ran rampant. Before and after GotNews published its story, people on the right passed around the rumor that Vangheluwe was the driver, declaring the attacker to be a person with a liberal worldview. And an excited Internet mob rummaged through Vangheluwe's Facebook page, sharing his anti-Trump posts.

    As all this was going on, Sommerman told CNNMoney, Vangheluwe was at a gathering to "say goodbye" to a relative "not doing so well." While at that gathering, he was inundated with messages on social media. He eventually took to Facebook to respond.

    "I'm not the one, i'm from fucking michigan you idiots," he wrote in one Facebook post.

    In another, Vangheluwe added, "I drive a 2009 chevy impala, not a challenger, fuck the internet."

    It was seemingly too late. Sommerman told CNN the misinformation ricocheting around the internet had prompted a stream of threats directed at Vangheluwe and his family.

    "It's been really bad. They've been terribly harassed," Sommerman said. "The family has been devastated."
    Sommerman said the family received so many threats that the authorities became involved and that the family eventually left their home at the suggestion of police. Lt. Mike Shaw, a spokesperson for the Michigan State Police, confirmed to CNN that authorities advised the family to temporarily stay elsewhere. Shaw also said police increased patrols in the area.

    Now the family plans to take legal action. Sommerman wouldn't provide a list of outlets the family could file suit against, and stressed it would take some time to prepare the complaints, but said he was taking a close look at the websites which ran with the inaccurate report.

    "There are consequences to fake news," Sommerman told CNN. "There are consequences to false reporting."

    "My message to those outlets is that if your words can cause great harm, and has caused great harm, you must suffer the consequences of the law as a result," he added. "And the law does not tolerate this type of behavior."


    Charles C. Johnson on Facebook:

    CNN's Oliver Darcy disrespected an off the record conversation.

    This is the same CNN that smeared me years ago by alleging I wanted to assassinate a civil rights leader.

    This is the same CNN that threatened a teenage over making a meme.

    I am committed to destroying CNN in the same way that I was committed to eradicating Gawker.

    The very fake news media deserves its fate.

    It was a standard operating agreement with CNN's Oliver Darcy not to publish anything I sent him via email until I approved it. Strange he's trying to claim he's a reporter when he begged for a job in Fresno twice. I paid for the man's meals and helped him.

    CNN is fake.

    There's a related thread here:

    Chuck C. Johnson v Anonymous
  27. This vid is on a pro-Trump anti-BLM channel so I'm not sure about the message.
    The military consists of people from every race and religion and neo nazis strike against everything they stand for.
  29. There are tweets from 5 military leaders but WWP isn't cooperating with me and I can't post the, they are at the link.
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    This WaPo essay tells the story of Derek Black, the son of ex-Scientologist and Stormfront founder Don Black. No Scientology in it but lots about the recent rise of White Nationalism, the re-brand of White Supremacy.

    The white flight of Derek Black

    College broke the racist spell for Derek. There's been a lot of anti-college PR going around the past couple of years and now I wonder if a bunch of old racists are mad at edumication messing with their children's minds.
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    Trump said he saw the alt-left attacking people, unprovoked, with sticks. There are some shoops going around so I dunno. From snopes below:

    An image purportedly showing an anti-fascist (antifa) protestor hitting a police officer was circulated on social media shortly after a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, left one woman dead and dozens injured on 12 August 2017. The photograph was frequently accompanied by the claim that both sides (white nationalists and counter-protesters) had contributed to the violence, and that while Republicans had denounced racists, Democrats had not denounced antifa protestors:
    The real image was taken in Athens, Greece in December 2009 during a demonstration on the one-year anniversary of the death of Alexandros Grigoropoulos, a 15-year-old who was killed by a police officer. Photographer Milos Bicanski took the photograph, which is available on Getty Images with the following caption:
    The protester’s jacket in the original image was blank. The antifa logo was digitally added to this image, which was then reshared as if it depicted a recent incident in an attempt to show that “both sides” contributed to the violence in Charlottesville:
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    The Anon Journal leaks private information of 22 US senators


    Anonymous leaked personal information of 22 members of the United States Senate in a press release posted on Thursday, calling for their followers to call and email the politicians requesting that President Donald Trump be impeached.

    The leak includes personal email addresses and phone numbers of the US politicians.

    More details to follow.


    Online activist group Anonymous posts what it says are private contact details for 22 GOP Congressmen

    By Todd C. Frankel, The Washington Post


    A group affiliated with the online activist group known as Anonymous today posted what it says are the private cell phone numbers and email addresses for 22 Republican members of Congress in a bid to push for President Trump's impeachment, reigniting the use of hacked information in U.S. political battles.

    Rob Pfeiffer, chief editor of online publication The Anon Journal, told The Washington Post this morning that the move was spurred by Trump's contentious reaction to violent clashes in Charlottesville over the weekend. The president set off a furor after he made it clear he had no intention of backing down from his claims that "both sides" were to blame for the mayhem that left one woman dead and dozens of others injured.

    Trump belatedly condemned the neo-Nazi and Klu Klux Klan groups that organized the Unite the Right, before doubling down on his original contention. The president has been widely criticized, including by leading Republicans in Congress and leading chief executives of major corporations.

    Pfeiffer said the private contact information of the Republican members of Congress was obtained by a group known as "AnonOps." Pfeiffer said he did not know how the information was obtained, whether it was a leak or an online hack. He said some of the cell phone numbers, for example, had been verified as real. Among the politicians on the list were U.S. Sens. Ben Sasse of Nebraska, Bob Corker of Tennessee and Charles Grassley of Iowa.

    The goal, said Pfeiffer, is for people to contact these members of Congress to more forcefully condemn the president and call for Trump's impeachment.

    The posting comes one day before the s0-called Denouncement Day, in which some members of Anonymous are calling on people to gather at confederate statues in 11 cities and tear them down.
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    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 6 hours ago
    Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists......

    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 5 hours ago
    ...and people like Ms. Heyer. Such a disgusting lie. He just can't forget his election trouncing.The people of South Carolina will remember!

    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 5 hours ago
    The public is learning (even more so) how dishonest the Fake News is. They totally misrepresent what I say about hate, bigotry etc. Shame!

    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 5 hours ago
    Great to see that Dr. Kelli Ward is running against Flake Jeff Flake, who is WEAK on borders, crime and a non-factor in Senate. He's toxic!

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 3 hours ago
    Many meetings today in Bedminster including with Secretary Linda M and Small Business. Job numbers are looking great!

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 3 hours ago
    Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You.....

    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 3 hours ago
    ...can't change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson - who's next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also...

    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 3 hours ago
    ...the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
  34. The Internet Member

    Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 5 hours ago
    Great to see that Dr. Kelli Ward is running against Flake Jeff Flake, who is WEAK on borders, crime and a non-factor in Senate. He's toxic!

    Why can't he tweet like this about alt-right leaders? Call them toxic losers with a criminal mindset. Say they want to take away the rights of non-whites and we won't let that happen.

    The one super-power the guy has is the power to insult and he won't use it against the damn Nazis. He is useless.
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  35. In 24 hours of any given day since his inauguration, Trump has made more cringe-worthy faux pas than in Obama's entire two-term presidency.

    He is inarguably one big fat orange supremacist mistake.

    All the king's horses and all the king's men, couldn't put this Numpty Trumpty together again.
  36. The Internet Member

    The "both sides" argument dies when you look specifically at the behavior of the League of the South in Charlottesville videos (the ones I saw anyway). These are the people who muscled into the crowd of counter-protesters wearing homemade riot gear and shields with insignias of a black X on a white background. Nobody attacked these guys before they got physical.

    All the alt righties were bad but the LOS were so bad I don't even...
    I'd like to put the LOS in prison for its efforts to ignite a civil war. But prison is a white supremacist radicalization factory. Prison culture is fucked up and might one day destroy us if we can't do anything about it.
  37. The Wrong Guy Member

    Third White House panel scrapped amid Trump-Charlottesville controversy | The Guardian

    Donald Trump’s presidential advisory council on infrastructure will disband according to a White House spokesperson.


    A third White House panel of business leaders is to be scrapped amid the controversy over Donald Trump’s response to neo-Nazi violence in Virginia, the Guardian has learned.

    Trump’s presidential advisory council on infrastructure will disband along with the two panels that Trump rushed to dissolve on Wednesday when faced with mass resignations of chief executives from some of America’s biggest companies.

    News of the panel being scrapped was leaked to Bloomberg News on Thursday after the Guardian approached the White House for comment.

    A White House spokesperson later confirmed in an email: “The president has announced the end of the manufacturing council and the strategy and policy forum. In addition, the president’s advisory council on infrastructure, which was still being formed, will not move forward.”

    The president only formally established the infrastructure council by an executive order on 19 July, but had asked the New York property developers Richard LeFrak and Steven Roth to lead the panel in the days before his inauguration in January.

    Two private equity executives, William Ford of General Atlantic and Joshua Harris of Apollo Global Management, were reported last month to have joined the council, which was to advise Trump on shaping a $1tn infrastructure plan that he proposed during his campaign for president. But most seats remained unfilled.

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  38. The Wrong Guy Member

    Heather Heyers' Mother Discusses Her Daughter's Legacy, Racism In America | MSNBC

    Susan Bro, the mother of the woman killed in Charlottesville, discusses her daughter's legacy and how she feels the country can move forward from racism and bigotry.

    Mother of Charlottesville Victim Heather Heyer Says She's Received Death Threats | NBC News

    “I think the president has found a niche in voters of the people who feel marginalized and I think he has continued to nurture those marginalized voters,” she said. “I’ve had death threats already ... because of what I’m doing right this second."

    Despite the threats, Bro said she refuses to live in fear and has vowed to continue to carry on her daughter’s legacy by establishing a foundation in her name.

    "I want people to start talking to one another," she said. "Equality is ... when you see a person not a label."
  39. James Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch's son and Fox CEO, just donated 1million $ to the anti-defamation league because of Charlottesville

    I’m writing to you in a personal capacity, as a concerned citizen and a father. It has not been my habit to widely offer running commentary on current affairs, nor to presume to weigh in on the events of a given day save those that might be of particular or specific concern to 21CF and my colleagues,” he wrote. “But what we watched this last week in Charlottesville and the reaction to it by the President of the United States concern all of us as Americans and free people.”

    “These events remind us all why vigilance against hate and bigotry is an eternal obligation — a necessary discipline for the preservation of our way of life and our ideals. The presence of hate in our society was appallingly laid bare as we watched swastikas brandished on the streets of Charlottesville and acts of brutal terrorism and violence perpetrated by a racist mob. I can’t even believe I have to write this: standing up to Nazis is essential; there are no good Nazis. Or Klansmen, or terrorists. Democrats, Republicans, and others must all agree on this, and it compromises nothing for them to do so.”
  40. Well, well, well!

    When the Bushes speak out, and the CEO of Fox has to tell you that Nazis are bad people, I do believe (but I may be wrong) that you're bound for the Promised Land - in that Max Cady kind of way.

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