Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Translation of two articles in the Trois-Rivières daily Le Nouvelliste, July 9, 2010 Des plaintes contre Narconon | Paule Vermot-Desroches | Le Nouvelliste
Re: UPDATE#2 Le Soleil: Narconon Expose - March 21, 2010 Now that's good troll. Hoisted on their own petard. So choice. Speaking of choice, something about that WISE symbol is bugging me. It feels like... it belongs somewhere. Somewhere familiar; somewhere I've seen recently. Hmmmmm............ ah, I know:
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating I want to clarify and correct some details in this Media Publication:[/B]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What they believe is that there does not exist any sickness, neither an illness nor an accident, unless we are in contact with 'suppressive persons', people who do not believe in Scientology teachings and who contaminate us from outside. For them, I had thus become a trouble source", explains David Love. (they knew that I had NOT attested to this PTS – Suppressive Person’s doctrine, nor did I believe in it whatsoever. This stopped my program at Narconon for three days while I was in several meetings with them over this refusal. They finally gave in and allowed me to continue after I was planning to leave. When I was hired, I also stated that I would not accept this doctrine and my file was red flagged as an employee, but I was hired anyway). Sexual harassment Furthermore, the day after he was hired, David Love says he received a quite explicit letter containing sexual advances from a woman in the organization's management. (The letter stated: “ I am a Porcupine, but when you turn me over, I have the sweetest meat you will ever taste” – there were more explicit ones than this letter) Feeling embarrassed by this message, Mr. Love says that he mentioned it to certain colleagues in order to ask about how he should react. He even says that he was encouraged by some employees to accept the advances, a suggestion which he refused to follow. (Quote by two staff: “Oh’ c’mon Dave, take one for the Team”) In an interview with Le Nouvelliste a few months ago, the director of Narconon Trois-Rivières, Marc Bernard, admitted that four or five employees out of about thirty staff members belonged to the Church of Scientology. (There were far more than four or five employees that were scientologists. I will post a list of names ASAP). Marc Bernard said he had nothing to hide on this subject, but he also stated that the therapy centre was not being used as a proselytizing agency where the practice of Scientology is obligatory or recommended. On the contrary, he maintained that all races and religions are accepted at Narconon, and that the employees do not speak about Scientology with the patients. (Quite clearly, this is NOT true – have documents) David Edgar Love says he was surprised to read this statement. When he arrived at Narconon in December 2008 for therapy, he says he had to view a documentary film that discussed Scientology teachings. (This needs to be cleared up. I was not forced to watch this Scientology video on Dianetics until near the end of the program; NOT when I arrived.) "I was even accompanied by a management person during the screening to ensure that I watched the entire film," he says. (Sue Chubbs – there were others involved also). In October 2009, upset by the experiences he says happened to him, David Love wanted to leave his job as an employee at Narconon. "But you can't leave Scientology just like that, especially when you have as much information as I could have acquired," says David Love. (I was monitored around the clock on a continual basis. If they did not know where I was or could not find me, Ethics Officers, Security, and other staff were sent to find me. I would receive emails and text messages, “where are you”; if you don’t contact me right now, this and that will happen…..”! When I tried to have some time to myself by going to the mall at the Food Court or elsewhere, I would be found and coerced back.) We were as many as 3-4 pay periods behind. Most staff had no money to leave. I had no money and no place to go, and was in fear that they would find me and bring me back for an Ethics Cycle for “Blowing.” I had been held against my will before and did not want to experience it again. It is not easy to leave Narconon – Scientology. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will post some more supporting documents when possible. There are hundreds or more. The only thing missing was a “GPS – Ankle Bracelet”. David Love
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating peterstorm Member Re: UPDATE#3 Narconon: Psychological and Sexual Harassment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well done Dave!!!!!! They're gonna be happy to see you tomorrow. Kuddos to the journalist too. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Peterstorm. The protest at Narconon Trois Rivieres will be interesting indeed. http://forums.whyweprotest.net/261-...d-love-raiding-narconon-trois-rivieres-68875/
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating I will be there no doubt, can't wait to finally get to meet you. You sir, have my sword.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Narconon Canada, Trois Rivieres. 1384 6 Rue, Trois-Rivières, QC, Canada. 1390 6 e rue, trois rivieres, quebec - Google Maps --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COULD NOT OPEN THEIR WEB SITE (Cached Only?) Did they take it down? Are they worried about the "Misrepresentations quoted on this Web Page) Or were they operating without a Business Licence? (about 10-15 drive from Narconon Trois Rivieres) Narconon® Canada Drug Rehabilitation and Prevention Francais Narconon Canada Drug Rehabilitation and Prevention Narconon Canada Drug Prevention Drug Rehabilitation Starting a Narconon spacer Bookstore spacer Contact Us Links Contact Us * Narconon Canada * Narconon Centers * Consultation * Location * Donations Contact Narconon® Canada Narconon Canada Continental Office 1390, 6ie Rue, Trois-Rivières, Quebec Canada G8Y 2X7 Phone: 1-819-609-1461 E-mail: rj.narconon.ca@hotmail.com
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating It sure was helpful of you to provide a link so others could test it.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating I want to also give a BIG thank you to Émilie Dubreuil. She is the brave reporter who did the Narconon Trois Rivieres Expose back in April 2008. She was/is with CBC - Radio Canada. Emilie helped me a lot. She followed me back to Narconon Trois Rivieres with the Police to pick up my belongings a few days after I left. I don't think she did it just "for the story"? I think it was because she really cared; as well as knowing what was going on inside the "Military - Like" compound of Narconon Trois Rivieres? Thank you Emilie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also to Paule, who worked hard on getting the true facts for this story; and to Marc Allard, who wrote and published the first story back in March 2010. Thank you for getting the story right and for the courage for your bosses to publish. Some media are still in fear.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Sorry. Here it is: OpenDNS http://www.narcononcanada.ca/ Please test; maybe it's just me? I was able to open it last week when I posted some of their false information on the site?
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Narconon Canada in Trois Rivieres, could be worried about operating a commercial enterprise in a residential area which is zoned for reidential only. Will check for business licence.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Now that would be just so...so...so...$cientological if it turns out to be the case! Here's hoping... BigBeard
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating FACEBOOK Email Message in from ex-Narconon Trois Rivieres employee: (I have several) July 8 at 5:59pm: Wish i could be there on Saturday but i can't .. Way to go for that though..i support you all the way .. got a lot done to me while i was a staff there . and fired for no reason. They try to brainwash everybody they can and the others.. they kick them out . Nice thing you're doing there david
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Ah yes, another government idiocy Whip Inflation Now
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating No one on 4chan knows that. I appreciate the history lesson though, interesting to know.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating The Narconon Canada, Trois Rivieres web site had some brave statements: - Success Rate 70% - All new people examined by doctor before beginning Program- Withdrawal phase is part of Program .....etc..... New intakes DO NOT see doctor for one to three weeks after they are IN the Program. Given high doses of vitamins and pills before being examined by doctor is extremely dangerous. There no medical people there. They just call an ambulance when people have seizures or become very ill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- POTASSIUM If you are taking potassium supplements, your treatment must be closely monitored with blood tests and EKG to make sure you are not getting too much. Too much potassium can cause problems with your heart, including cardiac arrest. In acute cases of hyperkalemia, there is also a risk of ascending paralysis that could lead to heart attack. Potassium chloride in tablet form can cause bleeding or ulcerations in the gastrointestinal tract. If there is any concern for this, it should be given in a liquid form. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NIACIN Flushing or a warm sensation, especially on the face, neck and ears, occurs in almost all patients using niacin for the first time or at higher doses. This side effect usually goes away on its own after one or two weeks. Using aspirin or other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen can reduce the tingling, itching, flushing and warmth associated with niacin. Slow-release niacin formulations may have a lower incidence of flushing but may also be more likely to cause stomach upset and liver abnormalities. Other possible side effects include headache, dizziness, panic attacks, anxiety, difficulty breathing, irregular heartbeats and dental pain. Macular edema and blurred vision have also been reported. Niacin may also damage the liver. Periodic monitoring of liver function by a qualified health care professional is recommended. If you develop yellow skin or eyes or have pain in your abdomen, it is a good idea to contact a health care professional. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a leaked photo from inside Narconon Trois Rivieres; This is one dose of pills. These are taken all at once! Dangerous.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Hey David. Been meaning for some time to say a simple thank you. The time, effort, expense and sacrifice on so many levels some times gets lost on forums, where one clicks away for a few moments and moves on to another thread. Beyond the exposure of Narconon being a sci front group, the real dangers of this Purification Rundown program is very, very real. As you are probably aware, the latent effects are so far down the road, unobserved medically, that legally it may be a time problem, but physically many are simply unaware of connecting the dots. Your statements and documentations have exposed the many other problematic effects of this organization and correctly correlated all to the precise source and cause: Scientology. It's so easy for others to say: Speak up, speak out. I know it's not only not easy, it can be a nightmare. So thanks and keep at it.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Thank you. You are so right. This is very difficult indeed, but there are important reasons why I continue on. I'll address those reasons at another time. But when you are 5,000 KM away from home for the past 18 months when it was only supposed to be 3 months away from my family, it makes it extremely hard on me and my family; especially when I receive a message on my Facebook Wall from one of my children like this one a few minutes ago: ".....love you dad come home please....." Nobody, except others who have gone through this, really knows how difficult it really is? But I do have a ways to go yet while in Montreal, and I am not a person to give up
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Hey David. Your children are more important and please listen to the message you just posted from them. Use technology to its fullest to accomplish what you're doing. but please listen to your children's message. I Do know what you're going through and I know it's important. But there are ways tech wise to do it. I don't want one single child to suffer because of Scientology ever again. Your children come first. Causes second. Thank you for all you've done.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating The dangers are very real indeed. There are valid reasons for shutting down all Narconon facilities around the world, but the danger to a patients health and life is the most important. Yes the 'dots need to be connected"; and this is the biggest challenge? I think it can be done rather easily in Canada; it's just going to take some time, dilligence, and tenacity. Anonymous has ALL three of these I was just in the Wrong place at the Right time, and fortunate to have witnessed and experienced what the real truth is. As I told Marc Bernard from Narconon on Easter Friday, "I don't care if it takes weeks, two years or six years; I will not give in to their tactics." If they are waiting for the Government to give up and then they will be in the clear, they had better think again because the next step will be in Civil Court. This evidence will be released to the public once it is filed in Court by either the Government OR myself. David Love
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating I know what you are saying and I have already replied with, "I'll be home soon"; which I will be. As soon as the investigation is completed, which should not be much longer; and the case is filed with the Tribunal or Courts, I will then be able to go back home until the trial or hearings. I have a job waiting for me, I think? Once back in B.C., I'll just use the Tech and fly back here to Montreal when I'm needed. You're right; much of this can be done from a distance; even signing more documents which keep coming in. Thank you for your concern; I appreciate it very much.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Ok, yes I like yours much better...., LOL ".....I was just the Right person in the Wrong place at the Right time......" I guess they would say that; ".....I was the Wrong person, in the Wrong place; at the Wrong time.....?" Whatever,....I'm tired.....off to bed soon and continue tomorrow back at Narconon Trois Rivieres.....on the "Right" side, with the "Right" People....., at the Protest.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Any new client or person who Googles the following, will be overwhelmed by Anonymous Posts Narconon Trois Rivieres Marc Bernard Narconon Sue Chubbs - (Narconon Executive) Scott Burgess Narconon - (Narconon Registrar) Aline Proulx Narconon - (Narconon Canada)
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating FROM NARCONON INTERNATIONAL WEB SITE: Looks like Narconon Canada might have an office in Quebec City? Drug Rehab Centers | Drug Prevention Programs | Canada Running a First Step Youth Weaning Program? Here is a pic of Yves and daughterfrom Narconon Canada. Yves is Certified to run Sauna Program. Programme de sevrage et désintox pour adolescent -Québec Maybe they have shut down in Trois Rivieres? We're Digging Should know by tomorrow hopefully? (can run, but can't hide)
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating I am a little bit confused by the two separate but related articles being in the same issue, but good information. I had to force myself to go back and re-read after skipping ahead to the 'sexual harassment' part. Good job.
Re: Complaints Against Narconon T-R: Gov is investigating Yes, it can be quite confusing at times..., LOL Narconon Trois Rivieres, Narconon Canada, the Executives, and ABLE Canada, are all being investigated right now. When I was at Narconon Trois Rivieres, Narconon Canada, Narconon International, and ABLE Canada Executives were all there too. Each took a bite out of the money pie. I worked for Narconon Trois Rivieres, was hired by an Executive from Narconon Canada, and all of these Entities and above executives were responsible for and being investigated by the Labour Relations Board and the Human Rights Commission. Even Narconon International in the United States, may feel the Sting;-) It is complex, but it will all make sense once all the evidence can be released; and there is a lot from many sources. The lawyers would not allow the names of some people being investigated to be released yet; but it should not be long? You think you were a little confused? Can you imagine me sitting in offices with government lawyers, trying to tell and explain these stories? The looks on their faces at times, were priceless...., LOL. If I did not have the documents to back up what I was saying, I would have been laughed out of their offices. Now it is different. They are moving forward as best they can; considering some witnesses are all over the place; but have been contacted and interviewed.
