Criminon Louisiana - "to the probationer as ORDERED by the local courts" WTF?

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by Natter Bored, May 10, 2011.

  1. Natter Bored Member

    Louisiana courts can order probationers to pay for and take Criminon courses? For $390? Seriously?


  2. Ann O'Nymous Member

  3. Anonymous Member

    Poons! Man them!
  4. RightOn Member

    wow crazy town
    COS sneaked in here after Katrina. They even had a Scientology Day named if I am not mistaken. MAybe not this particular town, but I remember reading about it somewhere. There were also in the schools with AP. Don't know if they are still there.
    Praying on disaster victims is the lowest of lows, but this is up there too.
    What choice do these probationers have? And if there is no other choice, I think this is highly illegal? Does this mean that the probationer's lawyers agree to this too? I has confusion

    Tikk! chime in on this bucket of fail
    The ACLU should be contacted?
    Maybe the same people for Sparrow's case? Since they have already had an introduction to the lovley cult noa?
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  5. Natter Bored Member



    Uh, its a brand new web site. The About Us web page isn't even filled in yet.
    Posting the text below before Criminon gets around to updating it (by Thursday at 2 PM?)


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  6. Anonymous Member

    Bigger photos


  7. DeathHamster Member is at the same IP address as these WISE companies:
    And close by to:
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  8. RightOn Member

    so on the Criminon PR promo?
    They spell her name wrong? or not?
    they spelled it Troxclair instead of Trosclair
    there is a Sheldon Trosclair in COS completions listed as a celebrity and he did the Purif
    But there are a lot of Trosclairs in LA I believe

    EDITED: found this

    Troxclair Cheryl Lpt Cert Mdt - CLOSED

    SO she had a business that closed maybe?

    Categories: Health and Medical Doctors Sports Medicine Beauty and Spas Massage Sports Medicine, Massage [Edit]
    805 W Congress St
    Lafayette, LA 70501(337) 262-0600
    This address is the same addresss for
    Physicial Therapy Advantage
    Physicial Therapy Advantage in Lafayette, LA is a private company categorized under Offices of Health Practitioner. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 160,000 and employs a staff of approximately 4. Companies like Physicial Therapy Advantage usually offer: Community And Public Health Practitioners, Community Health Practitioners, Public Health Doctors, Public Health Practitioners and Public Health Nurse Practitioner.

    she listed here to
    Cheryl A Troxclair PHYSICAL THERAPIST ( Cheryl Troxclair ) Physical Therapist, 709 Kaliste Saloom Rd, Lafayette LA - 70508 Phone:337-234-7018 Directions

    so.. how is a physical therapist qualified to be the director of Criminon?
    I guess thats better than selling jewelry like Joy Westrum
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  11. RightOn Member

    how many places did this person work?
    Troxclair, Cheryl Ann - PT
    Synergy Home Health
    4023 Ambassador Caffery Parkway
    Lafayette, LA 70503
    (337) 216-9740

    edited:I guess she is licensed, do not know if it is up to date
    • Taxonomy code: 225100000X ( Physical Therapist ) , with the licence number: 01419 , registered in the state of LA .
    • Identifier: 4H657C574 , issued by the state of LA , issued by the state of LA . This identifiers is of the category "MEDICARE PROVIDER #".
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  13. RightOn Member

  14. RightOn Member

    so prior to 2006, she had 15 years experience before she worked for Fontana?
  15. Anonymous Member


    Cool wording. Her program does not have one of the highest success rates in the nation. It just boasts that it has one the highest success rates in the nation. Like most anons boast of being well-endowed.
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  16. Anonymous Member

    Perhaps when pooning, mention Second Chance and how they failed?
  17. RightOn Member

    sooo who is this Leo Simon Jr. chap?
  18. Paroxetine Samurai Moderator

    Also the best bit is: No numbers. No Dox. Just "boasts one of the highest success rates in the nation". Is it 100%? 50%? What? Also: "several years?" Somebody can make the same claim and have only been working in that field for ~3 years.

    This has obvious red flags all over it. Then again, this is Louisiana. The same state that elected a cable installer that bawws about racism every chance he gets. I am not surprised at all they ignore these facts.
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  20. timthephoto Member

    i don't know how much sway a UK decision might have on officials in Louisianna but someone who's already opened communication might want to fwd that?
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  21. tikk Member

    Mandatory faith-based prison rehabilitation programs are unconstitutional because the state is endorsing, preferring, and even imposing religion. Also unconstitutional is the use of taxpayer money to fund such programs. Criminon is a faith-based program because it is based entirely on the unproven and untested writings of Hubbard, and otherwise resembles his "Scientology" writings in every meaningful and relevant way. Thus, either scenario--whether Criminon is receiving state funds, or whether courts are making prisoners' release contingent upon entry to/completion of the Criminon program--is flatly unconstitutional.

    I don't believe there is a single defining US Supreme Court case but there are plenty of decisions in the federal Circuit courts that bear the above out. A good primer on how the courts would handle it is Americans United for Separation of Church and State et al v. Prison Fellowship Ministries et al., 395 F.Supp.2d 805 (8th Cir. 2007) (read summary of case here), and Griffin v. Coughlin, 88 N.Y.2d 674 (N.Y. 1996) (read summary here).

    Louisiana is in the Fifth Circuit and though I wasn't able to easily find Fifth Circuit decisions affirming the above (though I'm fairly positive they exist), the law is pretty uniform across the country.
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  22. RightOn Member

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<33333333333333333 TIKK!!!
  23. Natter Bored Member

    1st Criminon Summit on board the Freewinds - 12 to 19 May 2011

    For government lurkers and noobs, Freewinds is a boat, housing the &quot;highest level&quot; Church of Scientology in the world.

    Criminon simply cannot deny their connection to the Church of Scientology.
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  24. BigBeard Member

    Oh, they'll deny it alright. It won't be true, but they'll go right on denying, and denying, and denying...

  25. RightOn Member

    I thought the COS website was now sporting the Criminon and Narconon logo? Or did they decide to take that off now?

    I think what was more interesting about this PR piece is that they say they will teach how to "handle" black PR, justice officials, opinion leaders and so on......
    This is a great PR piece to poon people with. It shows their true intentions. They talk about viability issues and recruitment and so on.
    not ONCE does it mention helping the inmates and their problems or the commmunity.
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  27. Anonymous Member

    Last sentence is a very good point.
  28. timthephoto Member

  29. RightOn Member

    ^^^^^^^^^has anyone asked the court?
  30. Natter Bored Member

    Scientology "Freedom" Magazine

  31. tikk Member

    Judges rarely investigate the third party beneficiaries such as Criminon, because such recommendations come from the attorneys. There's usually a short list of neutral forensic evaluators, therapists, after-care programs, etc. that a Court relies upon but which it had little input in creating. But those third parties also attempt to get judges' attention, and with an entity as leveraged as Criminon--which operates without a true profit-motive and whose only real goal is to gain state endorsements by being selected through this process--it's reasonably likely that they managed to position themselves within judges' radars.
  32. Natter Bored Member

    Judge Pamela Taylor Johnson, who actively promotes sending drug offenders to Criminon programs, has been in legal trouble for being naughty.

    Not confirmed, but it sounds like Judge Johnson sent legal staff for Criminon seminars without authorization. Whatever she did, she got spanked for it.

    Another unrelated spot of trouble

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  34. Anonymous Member

    Judge Johnson is a Juvenile Drug Court Judge.
    Does this mean she is referring underage kids who are first time drug offenders to Criminon?

  35. Anonymous Member

    "NEW ORLEANS (AP) _ For the second time in less than five years, the Louisiana Judiciary Commission is recommending the state's top court discipline East Baton Rouge Parish Juvenile Court Judge Pamela Taylor Johnson for alleged misconduct.

    The commission, in a report filed this week at the Louisiana Supreme Court, asks the justices to suspend Johnson without pay for 60 days and order her to reimburse the panel nearly 73-hundred dollars.

    The commission alleges Johnson interfered with a retired state judge named by the high court to oversee the administrative functions of juvenile court. And, it says she failed to sign judgments in several dozen child-support cases in a timely fashion.

    Johnson refused comment, saying it would inappropriate to do so since the matter is pending before the court.

    In mid-2000, a sharply divided Supreme Court refused to reprimand Johnson for alleged misconduct. The commission had recommended she be publicly censored for allegedly misleading the federal government in a planning grant application for a juvenile drug court.

    Johnson assumed the juvenile court bench on January 1st, 1995, to fill a partial term. She was re-elected to six-year terms in 1996 and 2002. "
  36. DeathHamster Member

    Criminon/Second Chance entangled with court articles:
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  38. Triumph Member

    dog and pony show for the judge....
    be good and you'll get mayonnaise with your baloney samich tomorrow

    meanwhile the judge is handed all the phony wins and testemonials to sift through..
    and the cons put on a passion play on how good the program is....

    extra TV time for good behavior...
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  39. over9000OT Member

    Gotta watch out for those anonymous characters...

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