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  1. OTBT Member

    Criminon using H1B visas

    Yeah, this is old, from 2008, but I just ran across this. H1B visas are for hiring foreign workers in specialized occupations. H1B visas are predominately used in by the IT and Tech industries, and the visas are good for up to 6 years.

    Why on earth did Criminon have 3 H1B visas? Can't Criminon hire local PR Specialists at $14/hour?

    H1B Visa: Public Relations Specialist at Criminon International 2534034 | Myvisajobs.com

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    Criminon submitted 3 H1B visas, none of the 3 visas were denied:

    Criminon International: Company Profile for H1B Visa and Green Card Sponsor | Myvisajobs.com

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    related old thread

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/69-c...-visas-import-foreign-skilled-teachers-61140/



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    H1B WAGE - H1B JOBS

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    Details:

    H1B WAGE - Public Relations Specialist at Criminon International
    H1B WAGE - Public Relations Specialist at Criminon International
    H1B WAGE - PUBLIC RELATIONS SPECIALIST at Criminon International
  2. OTBT Member

  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    very good found
  4. OTBT Member

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  7. AnonyVix Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Notice (AVG) presumably short for average after $43,300. This implies some kind of conditional on the wage, like maybe it is commission related...

    (Perhaps AVG should mean Actual Varies Greatly.

    Does anyone ask for a job description for such odd job titles?

    Building Expansion Officer job description: getting more people in to the org? Someone should ask the appropriate authorities some questions on this.
  8. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I can has simple explanation for my simple brane?

    I singed part of an eyebrow off a few hours ago, so that's my excuse for present dumbth. (I'm still working on an excuse for the singe-ing.)
  9. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Good questions. AVG is short for "average", says so somewhere on the site.

    Searched, can't find anyone else or any other companies with this job title.

    On a different site, salary is again reported at $43,300.

    The Church of Scientology of Orlando, Inc: Company Profile for H1B Visa and Green Card Sponsor | Myvisajobs.com

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  10. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    LOL, ok, I'll try.

    * Scientology used a business visa to import and hire a foreign worker, and pay him a salary. This totally contradicts scientology's claim that all staff are "volunteers".

    * Scientology front groups have been using business visas to import and hire foreign employees. Most of these front groups are run by the Sea Org, whose staff are paid approximately $50 per week.
  11. Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Human trafficking, separating families, environmental control.

    What is the bet these people don't actually get the wages set?

    Can we get this kind of information on religious workers visas?

    BTW OP WIN
  12. adhocrat Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    My thought and sentiment too

    Maybe they get charged $40K for room and board
  13. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    wow this seems to be a big can of worms?
    Shoots holes in their claims of employing "volunteers".

    Someone has to get all this info into a nice little presentable package to poon to the right places.
    Wonder who actually had held these positions?
  14. AnonyVix Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I'd start with US Immigration & Customs Enforcement, ask them what is a "Building Expansion Officer"? Surely the Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency have set criteria for the types of people they allow in, isn't that the point to stop people arbitrarily being brought in to the country?

    I know some people who've been to the USA on H1B visas and they had to jump through a host of hoops to qualify, certificates and references for relevant experience going back 12 years if they didn't have a degree, 4 years experience if they did. How come the scilons can just make up a job title and get away with it?
  15. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I knew someone who was from Brazil who held a job here. They were in danger of having to go back when their visa expired, and their employer wanted to keep them here. She mentioned that her employer had to prove her "worth" to stay in this country. I am probably not using the proper description. But I remember her saying that he had to convince them that she would be an asset to staying here. Maybe what she told me was incorrect, but I remember her telling me that her boss had to go to some sort of hearing for her for this? IDK.
  16. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I found this listing:
    KRs written by J.P. public; CSW to IJC dated September 25, 2009 and attachment of list of all KRs written since 2001;
    KR on ODD, Mexico, on Financial Irregularities sent December 5, 2008;
    RTC response to that KR, dated 7 December 2008;
    Message from public OTA (S.J) to all ICs 9 September 2008 with notes from SO member (B.S)
    Building Expansion Chief EUS regading hatting on how to get credit and sell assets.

    http://www.scientology-cult.com/mary-jo-leavitt.html

    I wonder if that is the same position?

    EDITED also found:
    7.) The Scientology Missions Expansion Office (SMI Expansion Office) was an arm of SMI International in Los Angeles and was supposed to establish Scientology-missions (beginner organizations) in pioneer countries .

    http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/ottmann-dec.htm

    from Wikipedia:
    snips
    Scientology Missions International

    SMI was incorporated on December 22, 1981 in Los Angeles, California by its Trustees William J. Duckhorn, Edward E. Brewer and Cecilia P. Murray[4]. On June 17, 1982 the Board of Trustees amended the Articles of Incorporation[5]. The day after, on June 18, 1982, SMI's Board of Directors, then consisting of Roger C. Barnes, Karen Sue Campbell and Howard D. Becker, adopted the Bylaws of the newly created organization[6].

    On September 21, 1993 the following individuals held corporate positions at SMI: The Board of Trustees was composed of Jonathan Epstein, Jessica Pruitt and Pablo Lobato. The members of SMI's Board of Directors at that time were Jean Discher, Bernard Radburn and Claire Edwards. SMI's President was Jean Discher, its Secretary and Treasurer Beate Gordon and its Assistant Secretary Bernard Radburn[7].

    As of November 23, 2000, SMI's corporate officers were Richard Fear (Chief Executive Officer/President), Joi Marchant (Secretary) and Claire Edwards (Chief Financial Officer/Treasurer)[8].

    At present the official address of SMI is 6331 Hollywood Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90028. SMI operates from the same address as the Church of Scientology International and other sub-entities of CSI. SMI's official agent is Jeanne Caugan. Her official address is 3055 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 900, Los Angeles, CA 90010[9].

    On August 18, 1993, SMI filed an application for tax exemption under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code and on September 3, 1993 a request for a "Group Exemption Ruling" for the affiliated Scientology "missions" in the United States[10]. In 1993, the Internal Revenue Service eventually granted SMI's requests for exemption[11].

    Describing the purpose and functions of SMI, the "Command Channels" booklet sees SMI as a "tactical management unit which is in charge of and fully responsible for the expansion of the mission network."

    Furthermore it states:

    "[...] Its purpose is to get missions functioning as Scientology's spearhead into the society and to hold wide open the entrance gates of the Bridge. This is achieved by getting the missions flooding their community with books, getting a huge volume of new public onto the Bridge through clearly delineated introductory routes with basic Scientology and Dianetics services well delivered, and by driving people further up the Bridge to orgs so they can train as auditors and go Clear and OT.

    "SMI INT assists missions in accomplishing this by helping them execute tactical programs provided by the Senior Executive Strata. SMI INT sees that missions get their technical and administrative staff trained in orgs so they perform their functions.

    "SMI INT is responsible for keeping missions inethics, in-tech and on-policy so they expand and fulfill their purpose of being a successful front-lines dissemination activity for Scientology which sends a high volume of new public, having successfully received basic services, on up to orgs.

    "SMI INT also sees that new missions are opened and gotten productive. There should be 10 missions around every org, each actively sending a large flow of new public to its local org, thus contributing to its expansion up to and beyond the size of the old Saint Hill in its prime.[...]"[16]




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_Missions_International
  17. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Pdf files for
    Scientology Missions International (SMI): Form 1023 filing
    Scientology Missions International (SMI): Form 1023 (An integrated auxiliary of CSI)
    Scientology Missions International (SMI): Group exemption request
    Scientology Missions International (SMI): Form 1023 filing

    Scientology Missions International (SMI): Form 990 filing
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/990s.php?ntt=465

    1023 Filings Vault
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/irs/index.php?node=202

    wikilieaks Clear Expansion Committe docs
    http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Scientology_cult_Clear_Expansion_Committee_documents
  18. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Just talked to someone ... and they said when it came to hiring someone from another country for a position.....
    They said you would have to prove that the pool of American applicants that applied for the same said job (along with the applicant from the other country) were not qualified enough to do that job. And that you would also would have to supply the names of the Amercian applicants that applied for that same position.

    In other words, you had to prove that the person from the other country was the ONLY person who was qualified enough to do that job and the others were not.
    AND supply all the names of the Amercian applicants who were not qualified for that job.
  19. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Not really. There is some information available for appeals, after scientology was denied quite a number of Religious Worker visa applications. US Immigration redacted private info.

    Summary, in plain text, of all the appeals decisions for scientology Religious Worker visa petitions that I have found. Latest one was 2007, then it's dead quiet.

    http://www.exposescientology.com/visadox/aao-decision-summary.pdf

    More info on Religious Worker visas and scientology:

    Scientology and religious workers visas, by Jeff Jacobsen

    Visa research, Church of Scientology, Religious Worker visas

    US Immigration refuses to release detailed info about Religious Worker visas:

    U.S. Ties Own Hands, Blindfolds Itself Regarding Religious Extremists | Center for Immigration Studies

    What Do You Do With a Visa Program with a Fraud Rate of 30-33% | Center for Immigration Studies
  20. Jeff Jacobsen Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I'm not saying Scientology is doing this, but here is a potential scam. An organization inside the US sells their ability to get foreigners workers' visas for the US. In other words, if someone outside the US is having or knows they will have difficulty getting a visa to come to the US, an organization could charge that person for getting them a visa. Then when the person gets to the US, that organization, having pocketed their profit, doesn't really care what the visa holder does anymore.

    Scientology and religious workers visas, by Jeff Jacobsen

    I think the way to see if Scientology is just making money off this visa program is to see what happens to the "winners" once they come to the US. Does Scientology make sure they follow the rules, keep them employed within their prescribed job? Or does the person, like Solomonyan, just run around and Co$ apparently doesn't even bother to keep track of him?
  21. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I heard they also change names several times.
  22. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Google search for "Building Expansion Officer" H1B shows 4 results:

    * this thread

    * 1 result for the scientology employee mentioned above,

    * Senior Building Envelope Architectural Consultant, H1B

    * Manager of Finances and Business Expansion, H1B

    USCIS search returns nothing useful, and no exact matches (tons of useless results, though; USCIS search engine sucks big time.)


    US Immigration is supposed to be tightening up and cracking the whip. To be honest, I don't normally pay any attention H1B visas, my digging around has been regarding the R1 Religious Worker visas. But, yes, my understanding is that before a company can import and hire someone via H1B visa, they have to prove that local workers are not available for the same job.

    Microsoft, Cisco, etc. are huge users of H1B visas, and the IT industry as a whole is heavily dependent on H1B visas, because it is normally a lot cheaper to import some poor IT schmuck from India at half the wage of a local IT schmuck (no offense intended).

    Please anyone interested, dive in and dig around. The more the merrier. I hope this scientology H1B employment opens up a can of worms regarding scientology employment practices.
  23. Anonymous Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Temple-priest-charged-with-visa-fraud/Article1-562691.aspx

  24. Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    This is pretty terrible when you think about it. Terrorists could become Scientologists and take advantage of the Scientologists and the government at the same time in order to get into the US.
  25. AnonyVix Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    I think I have it figured. Co$ has many clearly defined roles (hats) in its organisation. Co$ provides propriety training (hatting) for said courses along with gilt edged certificates.

    I believe they are presenting the wealth of paper work they have for these none jobs to bamboozle Immigrations. Something that needs to be stomped on because it's an alternative to the religious visa, which is set to get harder.

    Arguments for Immigration:

    I expect that if you analyse it the role of Building Expansion Officer is really just a glorified sales / manager position. Kind of like calling a mobile phone sales person an Digital Node Expansion Officer.

    Since they provide all the training in house they should be able to train good hard working Americans to do it. If they can't find them because no one here wants to help them expand then tough that's life in the big city. Immigrations does not exist so you can flood the country with your sales people.

    The gist is that if Immigrations is presented with a job title and description which doesn't readily match something they already have then they should ask a lot more questions about the worth of the job because chances are, if it's the likes of Co$, it's B/S.
  26. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Since the Expansion Officer position must deal with new areas to "pioneer" their dissemination, according to their mission statement...
    perhaps they can claim they needed to hire outside the US because they needed someone that was bilingual or multilingual for the position?
  27. AnonyVix Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Doesn't really make sense when you analyse it though. The role is building expansion officer (sounds more like an architect I guess) and buildings are fixed geographically so you only need people who speak the local language to the building - an argument for having English speakers who also speak Polish in Poland (I think most Poles speak better English than most English speak Polish BTW) but, even given the diversity of the USA, New York?
  28. RightOn Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    agreed. It does not make sense.
    BUT... I thought maybe COS would use this as an excuse or reason to justify them hiring someone outside the US?
    What other reason can they give to hire a non American Expansion Officer?
    Especially when they train them at the orgs according to what I read:

    "SMI INT assists missions in accomplishing this by helping them execute tactical programs provided by the Senior Executive Strata. SMI INT sees that missions get their technical and administrative staff trained in orgs so they perform their functions."


    I think the SMI needs some serious looking into? It's one of those branches that you seldom hear about. I am not even sure if I ever heard or read about it before.
    It was incorporated back in 1981
    and received tax exemption in 1993:

    On August 18, 1993, SMI filed an application for tax exemption under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code and on September 3, 1993 a request for a "Group Exemption Ruling" for the affiliated Scientology "missions" in the United States[10]. In 1993, the Internal Revenue Service eventually granted SMI's requests for exemption[11]."

    So this "branch" gets tax exemption status and they hire a bunch of people out of the country to do jobs that no other american recruit can do. Have salaried positions, and it's main goal is :

    "getting the missions flooding their community with books, getting a huge volume of new public onto the Bridge through clearly delineated introductory routes with basic Scientology and Dianetics services well delivered, and by driving people further up the Bridge to orgs so they can train as auditors and go Clear and OT."

    Aren't almost all missions gone now?
    No longer is their push to have "10 missions around every org"
    "desgined to sending a large flow of new public to its local org, thus contributing to its expansion up to and beyond the size of the old Saint Hill in its prime"

    They are all about Ideal Orgs now.
    So what does the SMI do now?
  29. Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    The more people complain the more scrutiny they must endure. Given the organization's ability to confuse and deceive a little bit of scrutiny will not be to their advantage.
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  32. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Hubbard College of Adminisyration (yes, it is mis-spelled)

    H1B WAGE - Hubbard College of Adminisyration

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    Details: H1B WAGE - Director External at Hubbard College of Adminisyration

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    Hubbard College of Administration Int.

    H1B WAGE - Hubbard College of Administration Int.

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    Details:
    H1B WAGE - Translator at Hubbard College of Administration Int.
    H1B WAGE - Director External at Hubbard College of Administration Int.

    ============================

    Looks like it is relatively safe to say that "church" of scientology has been using R1 Religious Worker visas for importing foreign Sea Org staff, and scientology front groups have been using H1B visas for importing "secular" employees.
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  34. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    A small WISE company in New Jersey has imported more than a dozen foreign accountants using H1B visas.

    http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/pdf/Summary_Explanation_of_BJL_Oddities.pdf

    This company is listed in an old WISE directory:

    STOP-WISE.BIZ : World Institute of Scientology Enterprises 2004 directory



    / Edit

    Holy crap, here is a list of 16 people working there, the most recent one was approved in 2009.

    bagell.jpg

    details for each of the 16 H1B employees:

    H1B WAGE - SENIOR ACCOUNTANT at BAGELL, JOSEPHS, LEVINE & COMPANY, L.L.C.
    H1B WAGE - Senior Auditor at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Comapny, LLC
    H1B WAGE - AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine, and Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine, and Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine, and Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - SENIOR AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Comapny, LLC
    H1B WAGE - SENIOR AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - SENIOR AUDITOR at BAGELL, JOSEPHS, LEVINE & COMPANY, LLC
    H1B WAGE - STAFF ACCOUNTANT at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - STAFF ACCOUNTANT/AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - STAFF ACCOUNTANT/AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - STAFF ACCOUNTANT at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - STAFF ACCOUNTANT/AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - SENIOR ACCOUNTANT/AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - SENIOR ACCOUNTANT/AUDITOR at Bagell, Josephs, Levine & Company, LLC
    H1B WAGE - STAFF AUDITOR at BAGELL, JOSEPHS, LEVINE & COMPANY, LLC
  35. OTBT Member

    Re: Criminon using H1B visas

    Here is a Narconon employee, currently employed in California on an H1B visa. California state database, this is NOT confidential information, it's freely available info:

    CA state | H1B Visa Data | Page 776

  36. OTBT Member

    Just ran across another H1B visa info for Narconon International, no date on this, though.

    $47,133 per year for foreign Narconon employee working as "social and community service manager" in Los Angeles

    http://www.h11.org/salary-by-employers/NARCONON INTERNATIONAL/

    narcononvisa.jpg

    Somebody PMed me today, asking about visas. So bumping this old thread with new info.
  37. DeathHamster Member

    Like that could happen! Oh...
  38. DeathHamster Member

    Neil Levine is a long-time big cog in the Scientology machine. He was (probably still is) the president of the empty shell of the Church of Scientology of California. (All the assets were transferred to Church of Scientology International in hopes that the courts were stupid, and to prevent paying any thin dimes to Wollersheim.) He's also here and there in Scientology's property holding companies.

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