Debbie Cook speaks at last.

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by DodoTheLaser, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. DodoTheLaser Member

    Apparently, Debbie sent this "nattery" email to about 12,000 Scilons/OT's in the last 48 hours.
    Even though, "Scientology works and it helps people" line, "KR's don't work anymore" IS a win.
    This is going to be very enturbulative. Get the caeks ready for 2012, everyone!

    Message from Debbie Cook
    Dear friend,

    I am emailing you as a friend and fellow Scientologist. As we enter a new year, it is hoped that 2012 can be a year of great dissemination and a year of real progress up The Bridge for all Scientologists.

    Although I am not in the Sea Org right now, I served in the Sea Org at Flag for 29 years. 17 of those years were as Captain FSO. I am a trained auditor and C/S as well as an OEC, FEBC and DSEC.

    I am completely dedicated to the technology of Dianetics and Scientology and the works of LRH. I have seen some of the most stunning and miraculous results in the application of LRH technology and I absolutely know it is worth fighting to keep it pure and unadulterated.

    My husband and I are in good standing and we are not connected with anyone who is not in good standing. We have steadfastly refused to speak to any media, even though many have contacted us.

    But I do have some very serious concerns about out-KSW that I see permeating the Scientology religion.

    I have the utmost respect for the thousands of dedicated Scientologists and Sea Org members. Together, we have come through everything this world could throw at us and have some real impingement on the world around us. I am proud of our accomplishments and I know you are too. However there is no question that this new age of continuous fundraising is not our finest moment.

    LRH says in HCO PL 9 Jan 51, An Essay on Management, "drop no curtains between the organization and the public about anything.” -LRH

    Based on this policy I am communicating to you about some situations that we need to do something about within our religion, within our group.
    Actions that are either not covered in policy or directly violate LRH policy and tech include:

    The extreme over-regging and fund-raising activities that have become so much a part of nearly every Sea Org org and Class V org as well as every “OT Committee” is not covered anywhere in LRH policy.

    Hardworking Sea Org members and the dedicated staff of orgs around the world aren’t choosing to do these actions. Nor are the OTs. I am sure they would be more than happy if they could just get on with direct dissemination of Scientology as they have done for so many years.

    But the truth is that this is being driven from the very highest echelons within the Scientology structure and clearly there is a lot of pressure to make targets that are being set.

    The IAS: The IAS was created unbeknownst to LRH in 1984 by Marc Yager and David Miscavige. This was supposed to be based on LRH policies on the subject of membership and the HASI, however the IAS is nothing like the membership system described by LRH which only has two memberships and is covered in HCO PL 22 March 1965 "Current Promotion and Org Program Summary, Membership Rundown" and states:

    "There are two memberships..."- LRH

    LRH lists there the INTERNATIONAL ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP and gives its cost at 10 pounds sterling or $30 US. He also lists a LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP which is priced at $75 US. There are no other memberships or statuses approved or known to LRH. Furthermore, membership monies are supposed to go directly to the org where the membership is signed up, and the money used for dissemination by that org, in that area. This is covered in HCOPL 1 Sept 1965R Membership Policies.
    "It all goes into the HCO Book Account in the area where the membership is brought and is not part of the organization's weekly gross income. Membership monies go to dissemination".- LRH

    Currently membership monies are held as Int reserves and have grown to well in excess of a billion dollars. Only a tiny fraction has ever been spent, in violation of the policy above. Only the interest earned from the holdings have been used very sparingly to fund projects through grants. In fact many of the activities you see at IAS events are not actually funded by the IAS, but rather by the Scientologists involved.

    Think about it, how many ads disseminating Scientology, Dianetics or any Scn affiliated programs have you seen on TV? Heard on the radio? Seen in newspapers? I haven’t seen one in the 4 years I have lived in San Antonio, Texas, the 7th largest city in the US. How many have you seen?

    Donating anything more than a lifetime membership to the IAS is not based on LRH policy. The article “What Your Donations Buy” (The Auditor, The Monthly Journal of Scientology No. 51, 1970) is clearly talking about how the church uses your donations for Dianetics and Scientology services. Next time you are asked to donate outside of services, realize that you are engaged in fundraising and ask to see something in writing from L. Ron Hubbard that this is something he expects from you as a Scientologist.
  2. DodoTheLaser Member


    New Org Buildings: LRH also never directed the purchase of opulent buildings or the posh renovations or furnishings for every org.In fact, if you read HCO PL 12 March 75 Issue II, “The Ideal Org”, which is what this program has been called, and nowhere in it will you find 20 million dollar buildings or even any reference to the poshness of org premises at all as part of LRH’s description of an “Ideal Org”. Instead, an Ideal Org was one that delivered and moved people up The Bridge – something that is not part of this “Ideal Org” program.

    LRH says in the PL that an Ideal Org: “would be clean and attractive enough not to repel its public” – LRH. This is all it says about the state of the building.

    As a result of this off-policy alteration of the Ideal Org PL, we have the majority of top OTs, now deemed “OT Ambassadors”, heavily engaged in fund-raising activities that include “bingo”, “pirate dinners”, “knitting classes”, “hay rides”, and many other activities strictly revolving around raising funds for the required multi-millions of dollars to fund their “Ideal Org”. As part of this, people around every org are now asked to donate to their local “Ideal Org” instead of their own services or their own Bridge.

    LRH says in HCO PL Org Ethics and Tech: “GET RID OF DISTRACTIONS FROM SCIENTOLOGY in your org. Baby-sitting or raffle tickets and such nonsense.”
    Yet these distractions are rampant as they are being used as fund-raisers to get money for the huge quotas being issued to fund the “Ideal Org”.

    "If the org slumps... don't engage in 'fund-raising' or 'selling postcards' or borrowing money.
    Just make more income with Scientology.
    It's a sign of very poor management to seek extraordinary solutions for finance outside Scientology. It has always failed."
    “For orgs as for pcs, 'Solve It With Scientology'.
    "Every time I myself have sought to solve financial or personnel in other ways than Scientology I have lost out. So I can tell you from experience that org solvency lies in more Scientology, not patented combs or fund-raising barbeques."
    HCO PL 24 February 1964, Issue II, Org Programming, (OEC Vol. 7, p. 930)

    The point is that Scientologists and OT's need to be training, auditing and disseminating to raw public- not regging each other or holding internal fundraisers.

    Out Tech: Over the last few years we have seen literally hundreds and hundreds of people who were validated as clear using the CCRD as developed by LRH now being told they are not Clear. This included hundreds of OTs who were then put onto NED as a "handling". LRH clearly forbid any Dianetics to be run on OTs in HCOB “Dianetics Forbidden on OTs”. This is out tech. This entire technical “handling” was directed personally by COB RTC and was done on thousands of OTs. But it was based not on an LRH HCO Bulletin, but rather based on a single C/S instruction where LRH C/Sed one pre-OT who had not achieved the state of clear but was mid OT III and not making it. LRH directed a solo handling that the pre-OT was to do to get himself to achieve the state of Clear. This LRH C/S taken out of context was then used to implement a technical handling that was in direct violation of an LRH HCOB.

    This and other “technical handlings” done on Solo NOTs auditors created great expense and hardship on Solo NOTs auditors around the world as they were made to do these handlings to continue on the level.

    Then there are the “fast grades at Flag” that no other org has. How can it be that Flag has been delivering grades differently to the rest of the world for the last 3 years? Whatever the problem is, the fact is that having “fast Grades” at Flag creates a hidden data line and is a HIGH CRIME and the subject of an entire policy letter called "TECH DEGRADES" which LRH has placed at the start of every Scientology course.

    More recently the fad seems to be that nearly everyone needs to “re-do their Purif and do a long objectives program”, including many OTs mid Solo NOTs.
    There is nothing wrong with doing objectives, but it is a clear violation of HCOB 'MIXING RUNDOWNS AND REPAIRS" to have a person mid a rundown or OT level be taken off it and placed on an objectives program.

    Solo NOTs auditors are also being made to get their objectives from a Class IX auditor at great expense as they are not being allowed to co-audit.

    Flag has made many millions of dollars on the above listed out tech handlings because OTs mid Solo NOTs are forced to get these out-tech actions to be able to get back onto and stay on the level and complete it. Not to mention the spiritual effects of the out tech that this has on each OT.

    I myself was subject to these out tech “handlings”, including extensive FPRD mid Solo NOTs. It took its toll in many ways, including physical situations I am still dealing with today. So I have some reality of the hardship caused.
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  3. DodoTheLaser Member


    LRH Command Structure: LRH left us with a complex and balanced command structure, with our orgs led by the Office of ED International. This office was considered so important that LRH created a special management group called the Watch Dog Committee whose only purpose was to see that this office and the other needed layers of management existed. LRH ED 339R speaks of this extensively as the protection for our Church. But these people are missing. And not just some. As of just a few years ago there were no members of the office of ED Int on post, not to mention top execs throughout the International Management structure.

    You may have also wondered… where is Heber, the President of the Church? What about Ray Mitthoff, Senior C/S International, the one that LRH personally turned over the upper OT Levels to? How about Norman Starkey, LRH’s Trustee? What happened to Guillaume – Executive Director International? And Marc Yeager, the WDC Chairman? What happened to the other International Management executives that you have seen at events over the years?

    The truth is that I spent weeks working in the empty International Management building at Int. Empty because everyone had been removed from post. When I first went up lines I was briefed extensively by David Miscavige about how bad all of them were and how they had done many things that were all very discreditable. This seemed to “explain” the fact that the entirety of the Watchdog Committee no longer existed.

    The entirety of the Executive Strata, which consisted of ED International and 11 other top International executives that were the top executives in their particular fields, no longer existed. That the Commodore’s Messenger Org International no longer existed. All of these key command structures of Scientology International, put there by LRH, had been removed.There were hundreds and hundreds of unanswered letters and requests for help from org staff, written based on LRH ED 339R where LRH says that staff can write to these top executives in the Exec Strata for help. But this is not possible if all these execs have been removed and no one is there to help them or to get evaluations and programming done to expand Scientology.

    Well, after that I got to spend some quality time with Heber, Ray Mithoff, Norman Starkey, Guillaume, as well as the entirety of International Management at the time, who were all off post and doing very long and harsh ethics programs. These have gone on for years and to the only result of that they are still off post. There is no denying that these top executives have all gradually disappeared from the scene. You don’t see them at the big events anymore or on the ship at Maiden Voyage.

    David Miscavige has now become the “leader” of the Scientology religion. Yet what LRH left behind was a huge structure to properly manage all aspects of the Scientology religion. He put a complete and brilliant organizational structure there, not one individual. There never was supposed to be a “leader” other than LRH himself as the goal maker for our group.

    There is a situation here and even if you have not been to the International Management Base you should be able to see that over regging and frequent tech changes are not OK and you have a responsibility to do something to Keep Scientology Working. You should be able to find and read the references on membership in OEC Volume 6. Find and read the HCO PL entitled “The Ideal Org” (Data Series 40). Find and read the references on org buildings, including HCO PL 24 Aug 65 II, Cleanliness of Quarters and Staff, Improve our Image. Also, HCO PL 17 June 69, The Org Image.

    If you don’t want to make waves or put yourself in danger of being taken off the level or denied eligibility, then there are some simple things you can do. First and foremost, withdraw your support from off policy actions. Stop donating to anything other than your own services and actual Bridge progress. Simply demand to see an LRH reference that says you are required to make other such donations. No one will be able to produce any references because there aren’t any.

    Stop supporting any of the activities that are being done to forward off-policy fund-raising in your area.

    LRH says what he expects of a Scientologist – that is what he expects you to do. In fact he put it in HCOB 10 June 1960 Issue I, Keeping Scientology Working Series 33, WHAT WE EXPECT OF A SCIENTOLOGIST. Read it and follow it.

    The other thing you can do is to send this email to as many others as you can, even if you do it anonymously.

    Please keep this email among us, the Scientologists. The media have no place in this. You may wonder why I have not written a KR and gone about my business. The answer is, I have. But there is no longer anyone to send that KR to.

    But you can and should write reports and bring off-policy to the attention of local org executives and local Sea org members.

    We are a strong and powerful group and we can affect a change. We have weathered many storms. I am sorry that I am the one telling you, but a new storm is upon us. Its waves are already in the media and the world around us.

    The truth is that as a Scientologist you are more able, more perceptive and have a higher integrity. Scientology is supposed to make you “think for yourself” and never compromise your own integrity. And most certainly LRH held every Scientologist responsible to KEEP SCIENTOLOGY WORKING.

    I am not trying to do anything other than affect a change in serious off policy actions occurring. My husband and I have most of our family and many many good friends who are Scientologists. I have not been real interested in sticking my neck out like this. However, I also know that I dedicated my entire adult life to supporting LRH and the application of LRH technology and if I ever had to look LRH in the eye I wouldn’t be able to say I did everything I could to Keep Scientology Working if I didn’t do something about it now.

    We all have a stake in this. It is simply not possible to read the LRH references and not see the alterations and violations that are currently occurring. You have a very simple obligation to LRH. Don’t participate in anything off policy, and let others know they should not either. If every person who reads this email does nothing more than step back from off-policy actions we would have changed direction. If we took all that energy and directed it into auditing, training and raw public dissemination, we would be winning.
    And that is what I wish for you and all of us as we ring in this new year.


    Debbie Cook
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  4. DodoTheLaser Member

    P.S. And don't forget, it's a sikrit, don't tell Tortega or anyone, just your loved ones.

    "The other thing you can do is to send this email to as many others as you can, even if you do it anonymously.

    Please keep this email among us, the Scientologists. The media have no place in this. You may wonder why I have not written a KR and gone about my business. The answer is, I have. But there is no longer anyone to send that KR to.

    But you can and should write reports and bring off-policy to the attention of local org executives and local Sea org members.

    We are a strong and powerful group and we can affect a change. We have weathered many storms. I am sorry that I am the one telling you, but a new storm is upon us. Its waves are already in the media and the world around us.

    The truth is that as a Scientologist you are more able, more perceptive and have a higher integrity. Scientology is supposed to make you “think for yourself” and never compromise your own integrity. And most certainly LRH held every Scientologist responsible to KEEP SCIENTOLOGY WORKING."
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  5. RolandRB Member

    Declare that fucking Bitch!!
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  6. Chipshotz Member

    Thanks for posting this.
    Powerful stuff from a former high ranker.

    How naive to believe this could happen. Out of touch with Internet reality.
    Probably not so naive about this.
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  7. RolandRB Member

    The Church of Scientology with all its OTs can't be so great when you think that a lone midget can take over the whole thing and they are powerless to stop it.
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  8. lostatsea Member

    Holy shit. This is delightful. I know it may not seem so on the surface, but it may just shake up some die hards. I love it.
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  9. Chipshotz Member

    A nice New Years present.
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  10. Anonymous Member

    Hey, Debbie?

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  11. Mutante Member

    Is she hot?
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  12. Anonymous Member

    This is big huge EXPLOSIVE.
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  13. LocalSP Member

    Wow! And the walls come tumbling down. LOL.
  14. telomere Member

    could use some "warm up" tech.


    scjentolog1.jpg debbietwo.jpg
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  15. LocalSP Member

    I felt a disturbance in the force, like thousands of people have come to some great realization.

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  16. AnonLover Member

    Not anymore their not. jeebus, this one had a strange twist in it.
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  17. Mutante Member

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  18. Triumph Member

    sure looks like a Declare Is forthcoming!

    "Shes Been Hacked?" "Did you write this?" "Should I delete this" *LOL*

    and my favorite

    "Debbie.. can you please say whether you yourself wrote a recent email of ill-intent sent out under your name" derp

    OSA is not amused *LOL*

    OMG OMG teh Sky Is falling....teh Sky Is falling!!!!!!

    running around like chickens with the head cut off

    sure as shit....Someone will write a seething KR

    be prepared for pitchforks and torches Debbie

    Where Is Heber! for the WIN
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  19. lostatsea Member

    Jesus fucking christ! They're all so beyond worried because a potentially supressive email is in their inboxes! Dauntless, defiant, and HAND-WRINGING? WHAT SHOULD I DOOOOO?? OMG!! SHOULD I DELETE IT??

    Get on moving out the door, leetle sheep. We'll be here.
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  20. DodoTheLaser Member

    Debbie was just kidding when she sent the e-mail. Haha! In fact, she probably never sent such thing at all. Big Pharma did or some bored Anons.

    Silly gooses.
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  22. RolandRB Member

    The sooner she is declared, the sooner the sheeple can ignore the contents of the message.

    Definitely a message of "ill intent". Declare the fucking bitch naoh!
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  23. Anonymous Member

    I know nothing about facebook, can anyone post on Debbie's 'wall' ?

    Now would be a great time to gently introduce the clams to some relevant material, ie SP Times series.

    Also I don't suppose she left the 12,000 emails in the CC field? LOL EXPLOITABLE
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  24. timthephoto Member

    no posting on wall BUT...

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  25. pooks Member

    By now Debbie has had 9,000 phone calls from Scios trying to find out if she actually wrote this on not.

    Squirrel Busters with baseball cap head cams are being flown to San Antonio where Debbie lives to get her to denounce this email.

    What a great start to 2012. This is either the real thing or a most elaborate and perfect troll. Either way it's causing a shit storm and so much fun.

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  26. Anonymous Member

    If Debbie didn't write it, I'll eat the Old Man of the Sea's hat.

    I knew Karen Downing personally when I was in, FWIW.
  27. pooks Member

    Dear Friends, Yes, the email was written by me. No I am not connected to anyone not in good standing. I did it because of my love and respect for LRH and the desire to see us correct situations that need correcting within our group.

    Share · 6 minutes ago ·

    She wrote it !!!!!

    She just posted that on FB
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  28. RolandRB Member

    Declare the bitch now before thsi gets out of control!
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  29. Anonymous Member

    Roland, before you blow the top of your head off with the angst of it all ;) there's no doubt in my mind that Miscavige has a knowledge report about this in his inbox already.

    Weight that anchor and hoist the mainsail! Arrrrr!
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  30. pooks Member

    This is so exciting and it brings a whole new player into the crazy Scn game.

    Debbie Cook is stressing that she's not in touch with the SP's outside of Scn (like Marty and
    Tony O) and is doing it from "within". It will be interesting to see Marty's reaction to this.

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  31. leafs Member

    Doubt is spreading like a virus through Scientology. Very glad to see that people can begin to think critically even when in for so long. It's a little sad that many people apparently need clear deviation from Hubbard's rules in order to question what goes on in CoS, but reaching 12,000 people in a way they can understand without feeling like bad or illoyal Scientologists, is great. Independent thinking is always a plus even if different people arrive at different conclusions. As long as people think independently and talk openly I'm confident that organized Scientology will eventually fall.

    I wish to know more about what she's refering to here and hope she goes to law enforcement if she was hurt, mistreated or physically or otherwise abused by anyone.

    @telomere I think the person in the lower left is Ms Gardini and not Debbie Cook, but I could be mistaken.
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  32. Anonymous Member

    FPRD is where you locate evil purposes and prior confusions for squintillions of years ago, right?

    I think that'd make anyone sick.
  33. RolandRB Member

    Debbie Cook, we LOVE YOU !!!

    That means you are connected to Anonymous.

    That means you are associated with a Suppressive Group that is definitely NOT in good standing with the Church.

    That means you are OUT ETHICS !!!!

    That means AN ETHICS HANDLING is coming your way !!!!

    That means you will be SHOVELLING SHIT on Gold Base for the next ten years !!!!

    Enjoy your Declare, you bitch !!!
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  34. Anonymous Member

    It's 3 am and that left over bottle of champagne is looking at me.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Time for mimosas! :)
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  36. Triumph Member

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  37. Sonichu Moderator

    OH my what an excellent troll!

    COS you are so screwed up that even your own members in Good Standing are waking up and realizing something is wrong.

    A Couple things I love from this:

    1. She actually went to the trouble to cite LRH policies that were being Violated. That's incredible that she went to that effort.

    2. She actually recommended trying to chain letter this message ANONYMOUSLY!!! Looks like she's learned something since the protests started.

    3. The Facebook response that everyone knee Jerks to is, "It must have been those Anonymous SPs!!!!! OMG she would never really feel that way!"

    At least the clams have the sense to ask her if she actually sent that.
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  38. Anonymous Member

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  39. Triumph Member

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  40. Anonymous Member

    This will not end well for Miscavige. The Flag bottom line is going to get hit hard once the word gets all the way out..

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