Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by DodoTheLaser, Dec 31, 2011.
What? That it's always important to flush after....
Debbie & Wayne are still listed as a friends on Doyle's FB.
Shoop of where Doyle was intending on pushing her head??? He does have "that look" on his face.
There are multiple threads on Doyle Mills already, feel free to post one one of those instead.
Well, no surprise there.
Jim is usually the person informing people that they have an SP in their friend's list.
So, was he a friend UNTIL Debbie's email was sent?
That is proof right there that she was in good standing, as Jim would have chucked her were she not.
This unfunny "spoof" was produced for the WISE Success Summit 2011.
^^^ Failfags are fail.
Heh! Truth in jest . . .
Yes, this thread has given me an erection that has lasted more than four hours.
Oh dear. I recommend this: emergency priapism solution.
I have a way of telling roughly how many friends Debbie has and she too has kept most of them. I think for the most part the cult has failed on this one.
That is about a 13% success rate, I would call that FAIL.
She has a cameo at 0:50
Many (not all) of these bozos who disconnected are making WAY too much money with what they are doing in COS. And they don't know how to do anything else. Besides how would they survive outside COS in the wog world?
I am pretty sure if DM asked them to shave their hands and wear "Borat" bathing suits they would comply.
ok so I am confused, and I would imagine this has already been discussed.
But what would Debbie's plans be in the near future? Does she really think that she can transform the cult and have DM go along with it?
Or have him removed from post as church leader by a mutiny from disgruntled members?
Would many of the Sea Orgers and staff be in a panic if things were to shift that greatly? I suppose many of them if not all were sheilded from hearing about this email.
Then again, they are SO submissive and are used to keeping the blinders on and continuing to do their job, I guess they would just go with the flow since they are used to taking orders from whomever is directly over them?
And Debbie couldn't be thinking that she is still in good standing?
She knows she would get a declare, so how is she going to continue to "get her Scientology on" without COS? Does she think Indys and Zoners are squirrels? Anyone who publically agrees with what she is saying will not be in good standing any more either. I am sure some will be handled and recovered if they start feeling too lost. .
But where are all these people going to practice Scientology? Start a mission of their own like the old days? DM would slap lawsuits on them so fast their head would spin. But I see this as the only solution. And if it was a very small mission, there would be no need for Sea Org slaves.
I have said it a million times, without the Sea Orger's getting abused, mistreated, enduring sleep deprivation, disconnection and being cut off from their families and the rest of the wog world, I believe COS would fall like a lead weight in it's present form with its vast amount of real estate holdings that the Sea Orgers have to take care of. Not to forget all the clerical work they are responsible for and also the printing of all the COS "copyrighted" materials.
I am curious to know what Debbie's views are on the Sea Org and their treatment.
You raise many good questions, RightOn, particularly about what she must think/know about SeaOrg treatment. It is a convenient mental process to have a skapegoat like DM to blame all the problems on when, in fact, the entire structure and mission of scientology is like any other cult: control people, control their money. It is also difficult for anyone that spent so much of their time, talent, and resources to realize how much of their life they have wasted.
Blaming DM is the final defense of Scientology's Stable Datum: The Tech always works and Hubbard is Source, and if it doesn't work then any other explanation, no matter how unlikely or extreme, must be correct.
At least blaming DM is fairly sane compared to government infiltration, SMERSH, alien invader forces, mind-control earplants, and so on, as reasons that the Tech doesn't work.
Some Scientologists want it both ways -- DM is part of the government infiltration, SMERSH, etc.
I am sure this guy read her email
Tim Stoner, report to Ethics!
How sad that he cites Wikipedia, but probably thinks the Wiki Scientology pages are full of lies and hate...
I think it's time (well has been for fucking years) for the media, disgruntled members and whomever else is interested to demand ask for DM to do an interview.
yeah I know he never will do it. But wouldn't it be dandy for the media to start asking who and where is DM? Where is his wife? Ask questions about the allegations, and his close relationship to TC
oh to dream.....
but it's time
I agree with you, and I'm no Scio... the Hubbard war record proffered by the clams is as fake as Saddam's WMD. However...
Hey, I hear that Debbie Cook sent an email to 12,000 Scientologits. What's the scoop on that?
Read receipts requested?
She hit "send" twice.
There's an entire subforum on WWP dedicated to the discussion of MARTYMARTYMARTY. Please don't crap up this thread.
edit: if you simply must express yourself concerning all things MARTY, try this one:
Looky what advertising comes up when you look at Tory's essay!!!! There are several that seem to rotate as one refreshes the screen.
(I did edit the image but only to make the screen capture smaller)
Wayne Is down a few more today
Debbie is drunk on the kool-aid & not thinking clearly. Remember, when you're a dedicated Scilon in the cult, everything you observe & think is jaded from the cult's point-of-view. Debbie may have been a top exec in Scientology, gifted and smart in her hat, but she wasn't thinking clearly & objectively, nor acting on a full set of facts. It's part of the cult mindset, i.e., brainwashing.
Debbie, obviously, thought her prowess, past experience as an exec, and the fact that her name is very recognizable in the cult, gave her an advantage in taking on DM, but just as Mike & Marty had to learn the hard way, once you've turned your back on the corporate church, you're no different or better than those the cult perceives as scum; their enemy.
Debbie has rocked the boat to no return. Instead of pondering anything expressed in her email, the "Church of Miscavology" are surrounding the wagons to decimate & destroy Debbie any way they can, to the point, she will shut up and quietly go away.
Looking like a homeless rat catcher wouldn't matter if he had any content of value to share ...
But he plays his part.
Corporate scientology operates as an insular dictatorship. If you want to stay in "good standing" with the scientology corporation, you must:
1. Comply with the group
2. Depend on the leader
3. Devalue the outsider
4. Avoid dissent
If you violate any of those four pillars of cult power, you will get labeled, libeled and lied about.
I think he was referring to the records OG critics dug up under FOIA, showing Ron's war record as incompetent and dishonorable.
The "official" word from the cult, would be that it's a crude forgery.
Either faked at the time to hide Ron's top secret missions that are still too sensitive to mention,
or faked after the fact to discredit him when Ron became too big for his britches.
And no evidence demonstrating forgery of Hubbard's war record exists. Scientology hired Fletcher Prouty to opine that "it looked to him" like it could have been forged, but he did not specify what factors caused him to suspect forgery. Bottom line: Hubbard's official war record is factual.
In a letter, former Scientology leader renews concerns about church fundraising
By Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin, Times Staff Writers
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 06:08 PM
troll infestation..on isle three
Even Fletcher Prouty couldn't suspend disbelief forever. When he wrote his last book for Scientology, they paid him for his time, then shredded it.
The FB page: We Love Debbie Cook's Email, just got its first attack.
Jeesus, I didn't know Basil Wolverton drew from life.
I see a joke here about putting ethics ruthlessly in to DM!
Damn... Debbie Cook was hot way back in the day.
Just think of the life she could have had if she wasn't tainted by this foul mind-cancer.
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