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Debbie Cook's TRO Hearing - Update Thread

Discussion in 'Media' started by Sponge, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Sponge Member

    Scientology, Deep in the Heart of Texas: The Voice at the Debbie Cook Hearing
    by Tony Ortega, Village Voice. 9th Feb 2012
    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientology_dee.php
    Twitter feed: http://twitter.com/voicetonyo
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  2. Anonymous Member

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  3. another123 Member

    2nd update: RugBurn to Tony:"They moved to exclude the media. She told them to shove it."
    I assume judge holds shares in the popcorn futures market <-(can be very volatile i'm told)
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  4. DeathHamster Member

    Ooooo! Joe Childs and Thomas Tobin are there too! (And three TV outfits.)
    No whining? That's usually a major part of CoS's legal strategy.
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  5. Aurora Member

    Is whining different than bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwing?
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  6. DeathHamster Member

    Besides their two local attorneys, it'd be interesting to know who CoS has sent to manage this case.
  7. I'm sure if Moxon were there he'd have gotten an immediate mention.
  8. TinyDancer Member

    http://www.bexar.org/judges/DistrictCourt166.html
  9. DeathHamster Member

    Moxon is a chump bully sent in against under-lawyered opponents.

    I'd expect one of their expensive lawyers like Eric Lieberman.
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  10. Sponge Member

    3 TV cameras. Ooo goodie, something for youtube later.
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  11. BigBeard Member

    Jeez! Still trying to use the agreement to scuttle DC's legal defense. What a bunch of scum bags.

    BigBeard
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  12. Anonymous Member

    Reporter in San Antonio, MikeBoard1200 giving live updates and photos on twitter:

    Photo of Debbie and Wayne in court:
    https://twitter.com/MikeBoard1200#/m...com%2FsGFEFEYY

    (FYI: You can also see Marty, Tony O, Joe Tobin, and the gang in the back rows)

    MikeBoard1200 Michael Board
    Cooks "kidnapped" by church and held 2-3 weeks at residential compound used by church #Scientology
    2 minutes ago

    Michael Board
    MikeBoard1200 Michael Board
    Cook atty "signed agreement under extreme duress" and agreement was "unconstitutional" #Scientology

    6 minutes ago
    Michael Board
    MikeBoard1200 Michael Board
    Fmr Scientology leader cook was apparently held captive, escaped and caught by church. Cook atty wants videos. #Scientology
    38 minutes ago
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    Michael Board
    MikeBoard1200 Michael Board
    Courtroom galley w/ Cooks at bottom left #Scientology pic.twitter.com/sGFEFEYY
    1 hour ago
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  13. Anonymous Member

    If we ever get the footage. Though I bet bits and pieces will be shown on tonight news. At least those in Texas.
    This whole thing is absolutely epic.
  14. JustNoise Member

    Cook on the stand now.

    Damn it Tony update more. Refresh refresh refresh....
  15. Anonymous Member

    Hold your horses peeps... According to Michael Board they are showing the video of Debbie signing the contract:

    Vid of cook agreeing to leave church w/ Cali lawyer of
    #Scientology
    She does not look under duress.

    On tape, Cook starts crying. Asked, she said she was sad she was leaving sea org
    #Scientology


    This is not good :(
  16. Anonymous Member

    She doesn't need to be under duress at the very moment of the signing. She could be psychologically and physically tortured for weeks in order to convince her to sign that piece of paper. It's quite normal that once she made up her mind to sign it, she would feel relieved that it's over, and would look OK on camera at the moment of signing.
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  17. Sponge Member

    Ex-Clearwater Scientology leader claims kidnapping, torture before she left church
    Joe Childs , Thomas C. Tobin Tampa Bay Times Posted: Feb 09, 2012 12:01 PM
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/scient...ms-kidnapping-torture-before-she-left/1214690

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  18. DeathHamster Member

    An example of how mentally twisted people can get when psychologically and physically tortured:
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...e-relationships-where-the-victims-stay.99934/
  19. Anonymous Member

    Oh dear, Tony O. doing what he always does: TEASING

    Plz plz, moar updaet! Plz plz pretty plz?! :(
  20. Anonymous Member

    I want to check here before Marty and Mike get up to testify ... if they testify against the Cult in a manner that is persuasively damaging against the Cult, will they get credit here for having done so?

    Or will there be more whinging and cursing and gnashing of teeth?
  21. Anonymous Member

    Is teh cult likely to set up a tent city to sway the decision like they did for the Wollersheim & Titchbourne cases? Hopefully the chance for a mega-brawl
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  22. DeathHamster Member

    Occupy Teegeeack?
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  23. Random guy Member

    Credit where credit is due. I will applaud them for taking the stand against the cult, but that won't make them the savours of mandkind or anything.
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  24. Anonymous Member

    Of course he is, afterall - Tortega The Tease. The art of being a tease his where does his best work.
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  25. Anonymous Member

    From @MikeBoard1200 twitpics

    AlOO2S-CIAAu-hw.jpg:large.jpg

    ^^And church attys #Scientology

    I sees no Moxon. Is that by chance strictly the local firm?
  26. anon8109 Member

    I'm off to get my "FREE XENU" sign and t-shirt ready just in case.
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  27. Sponge Member

    If the Mox was going to be sitting in any proceedings then it is more likely to be the other major one running today, closer to home and in the state where he's licensed to practice, i.e. The Headley's v Scientology hearing on the appeal against the summary judgment. (Ninth Circuit, Pasadena, California 9am PST) https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/headley-v-scientology-appeal-2012.99923
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  28. Random guy Member

    It's on again!
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  29. BigBeard Member

    On where??? With video cameras in the courtroom is there a live feed somewhere???

    BigBeard
  30. Random guy Member

    Well, hindsight is always 20-20, but I'd say this has come off to a rather nice start.
  31. Random guy Member

    New update on VV
  32. bAnon Member

    From VV blog:
    Things start to heat up as Spencer continues to question Debbie Cook...
    Spencer: You understood that it would not only be against Scientology ethics but also affirmatively fraudulent if you accepted the $50,000 unless you intended to live up to the agreement.
    Cook: I understood that if I took the upper level materials and I put them out to broad public, or if I did something that was an outright violation of our ethics codes, that that would not be OK. Does that answer your question?
    Spencer: You're saying that if you lived up to the spirit of the agreement, then it was OK for you to accept the money?
    Cook:First, I never expected or asked for the money. I was going to need medical assistance....We did not plan on getting that money...and it was to make nice at the end. Also, I was out of it. I intended to sign whatever I had to sign to live. I signed pieces of paper that they wanted me to sign so that I could go.
    Spencer: So you had no intent to live up to the bargain?
    Cook: Really, the only thing that was in my mind was to leave.

    2:54 pm. Spencer has now entered the New Year's Eve e-mail into evidence as exhibit 7.
    Spencer: "Let's go through exhibit 7 line by line."
    (OMG, we'll be here for weeks. What is he thinking?)

    Surprised there wasn't an OBJECTION to the 'spirit of the agreement' statement.
  33. Random guy Member

    Cook confirms she'd sigh anything to get away.

    They are now going through the New Year e-mail.
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  34. Anonymous Member

    LOL YET she cashed the check!??!!!!? ROFLMAO!! Come on!
  35. Anonymous Member

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  36. Anonymous Member

    If she didn't cash the check she would be declared SP and suffer disconnection and fair game. What's your point OSA?
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  37. Anonymous Member

    @Ess4Matt Everyone..Scientology is NOT a cult/believe in alien gods/take all our money away or brainwash...they just make life happier & easier.

    Someone tell him...
  38. Anonymous Member

    Oops..

    @Ess4Matt Everyone..Scientology is NOT a cult/believe in alien gods/take all our money away or brainwash...they just make life happier & easier.

    Someone tell him...
  39. Anonymous Member

    From Tikk , ESMB:
    To address a point I keep seeing, yes, you can sell your free speech rights, they are waivable, and if Cook's case relies on that argument, she'll lose.
  40. Anonymous Member

    she knew it was gonna happen anyways. my "OSA" point is if she only signed the NDA to GTFO, why did she cash the check? If she didn't scilons couldn't do shit to her.

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