Debbie Cook's TRO Hearing - Update Thread

Discussion in 'Media' started by Sponge, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Anonymous Member

    So basically Debbie was willing to keep quiet as long as the cult left her alone? Well, I for one am more than glad the cult decided to sue she'll talk.
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  2. Anonymous Member

    A good demonstration about disconnection is all the screen shots of the people unfriending debbie on FB as they realized she really DID...her lawyer might appreciate that. SO no, onward to the civil suit which i predict will quietly go away as Debbie and her husband promise to STFU and GTFO in exchange for not being cut off from their families.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    And in this case, I won't have problem believing this. One former high exec on the witness stand under oath is already mind-bloggling. Now Marty and Mike, both also former high ranking execs who know about and were involved in a lot more nasty stuff I suspect, is just plain impossible to imagine (sadly I have given up on this ever happening with these two)
  4. Diablo Member

    Too late, the bell has already been rung!

    This will linger and the media will use the Cook's testimony when future incidents surface and more members come forward with their tales of horror.

    This case confirms what a lot of former members have testified and spoke about.

    The HOLE and slavery is REAL!
    The A HOLE midget beating people is REAL!
    Human Rights violations in the cult are REAL!
    (word to Jeff Stone, "hey fuckhead, you have HR violations in your own back yard. It's no WONDER why you get a lot of $$ contributions from the cult around the US.
    WAKE THE FUCK UP --You are being used to cover up the atrocities YOU DICK!)
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  5. Anonymous Member

    After a day of testimony, including claims of abuse and torture, the Church of Scientology backed away from an injunction against former minister Debbie Cook, who now lives in San Antonio.
    In court this morning, attorneys for the church slammed Cook and her attorney, Ray Jeffery, for misusing the court. Jeffery denies that claim, explaining they were showing a non-disclosure agreement was signed under duress.
    After a round of hugs, Jeffery seemed almost bewildered that the hearing was over. It was something he had to digest.
    Before the judge, he said Cook and her husband would be happy to repay the church the $100 thousand they were given when they left, but the church was taking away their ability to pay. They were being cut off. Cook makes her living working with other Scientologists to promote business, and they seemed worried they would be excommunicated. Jefferey said his clients would even be willing to sign a promissory note, paying back the cash.
    Remember, this hearing was only about a restraining order to keep Cook quiet until the lawsuit is over. The church is suing her for violating a non-disclosure that she signed when she left. We're talking about the email that Cook sent on New Years, which was critical of church fundraising.
    The church gave me a statement on today's development. Here it is:
    The only reason the Church brought suit against Debbie Cook and Wayne Baumgarten and sought a preliminary injunction was to uphold the agreement they made not to make disparaging statements about the Scientology religion, Churches of Scientology, its ecclesiastical officials and parishioners. The Church demanded such covenants from Cook for good and sufficient reason: Cook in the past had made similar false and misleading statements and the Church feared that she would do so again.
    The Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization has withdrawn its motion for preliminary injunction to preclude the court being used further as a forum for the defendants to violate the rights of the Church and its members with more false and disparaging statements. At the same time, Church counsel is pleased that Ms. Cook has admitted to the facts confirming both her agreement and the irreparable harm caused to the Church through her actions. The Church will use this evidence to seek Summary Judgment against Ms. Cook and her husband.
    Using the court to disparage dedicated Church officials who are not even part of this matter is yet another example of the bitter hate campaign Ms. Cook is engaged in, much like the apostates she has joined. It is also evident from her testimony that the entire purpose of violating her agreement is to extort the Church for more money. The Church refuses to let her continue under the guise of judicial privilege to falsely disparage the Church. Further statements in violation of their agreements by Cook and her husband will increase the damages they will ultimately have to pay. The extreme falsity of Cook’s statements is evident from the simple fact that, incredibly, in three hours of testimony she did not have a positive statement to make about anyone she ever encountered in her decades long Scientology career. Moreover, true or false, her statement about Church staff clearly violates the ministerial privilege. The Church fully intends to use its ecclesiastical procedures grounded in Church Scripture to expose both Cook’s false testimony and her ecclesiastical transgressions.
    Cook’s agreement makes clear that all disputes Cook and her husband may have had were to be presented to the Church’s International Justice Chief for ecclesiastical resolution, and failing that, to arbitration. Cook failed to do either further breaching her agreement.
    Cook and Baumgarten have improperly used the court proceeding to entangle the court in fundamental ecclesiastical matters that it must avoid under the First Amendment. Courts cannot interfere with ecclesiastical ethics and justice proceedings even were Cook’s one-sided revisionist history true. She has already been expelled from the Church and a court may not interfere with that without violating the First Amendment. For over a century, the Supreme Court has made clear that courts must abstain from examining matters, which concern church discipline. Just last month, in a unanimous decision in the Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School v. EEOC (132 S.Ct. 694, 704 (January 12, 2012)), the Supreme Court reaffirmed the prohibition of judicial interference with religious liberties and the power to determine matters of discipline, faith, internal organization and explained why it is blatantly unconstitutional.
    The proceedings in this Court yesterday clearly violated these proscriptions.
    Ms. Cook left the Church clergy over four years ago. Since her departure, the Church has expanded many times over – and particularly where she served in Clearwater. The expansion is coincident with her departure. She has no knowledge of the Church today. She has not attended Church in years as a parishioner and has become a squirrel or a heretic. It is evident that Ms. Cook is extremely bitter that she is no longer part of the Church.
    The Church has always been true to L. Ron Hubbard’s teachings. Ms. Cook was expelled from the Church for violating Scripture. She and her fellow bitter apostates will never enter a Church of Scientology again.
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  6. hushpuppy Member

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  7. Anonymous Member

    lol @ Pat Harney (from the above article):
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  8. Herro Member

    Lol Scientology.
  9. Anonymous Member

    Haaaaaa! The twisted pr mindfuck continues!
    What's true for them is that they are delusional :)
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  10. TinyDancer Member

    If they (foolishly) do make an application for summary judgment, here's what will happen:

    1. Jeffrey will hand up the transcript of yesterday's hearing;
    2. Jeffrey will call Debbie Cook to continue giving evidence; and
    3. All other witnesses due to be called today will be called.
    Also, that Pat Harney statement is nasty.
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  11. Random guy Member

    Oh dear, a judge that actually want to hear what this case is about!?! This is not good news for the cult!
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  12. Tourniquet Member

    Sciento-legalese for "We couldn't buy or intimidate this judge."
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  13. Random guy Member

    ^^Oh so very much!^^
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  14. Herro Member

    More like "We dun goofed"
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  15. Anonymous Member

    Admit it, you're surprised.
  16. CarterUSP Member

    ... and I guess the fact that the CofS does not have a single positive statement to make about Debbie Cook in her decades long scientology career is evidence of the extreme falsity of the cult.
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  17. Anonymous Member

    Scientology: Cult of Boundless Hatred
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  18. Anonymous Member

    Lolyerfags: grounds for countersuit?
  19. Herro Member

    Not at all, this is pretty much exactly what I thought would happen once they sued Cook. I said as much back in the original thread. Remember, I am never wrong, about anything.
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  20. Anonymous Member

    Right. I'm the Hebrew Pope.
  21. Anonymous Member

    It is wrong to use other's trademarked/copy righted icon as your avatar without permission. Or are you authorised by the church? Is it a crime to violate copyright on WWP?
  22. CarterUSP Member

    Quick! Report Herro to OSA, they'll take care of everything.
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  23. another123 Member

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  24. DeathHamster Member

    LOL! Prove it!
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  25. Anonymous Member

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  26. LocalSP Member

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  27. Anonymous Member

    The ecclesiastical leader of the Scientology religion has dedicated more than 30 years of selfless service for the good of the religion and ten thousand staff and millions of parishioners applaud that service.

    They said the same about Debbie Cook. Look how easy the worm turns, Miscavige?

    You think folk are loyal to that little Dwarf? I think not.
  28. DeathHamster Member

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  29. In for a penny, in for a pound.
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  30. Sonichu Moderator

    I look at this as wonderful news. If the COS couldn't even present a decent case to have the injunction upheld,

    (remember, the injunction's purpose is to keep Debby Quiet during Proceedings)

    What does that say about the stability of their actual case? (which is to sue her for the things she has said)
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  31. Anonymous Member

    Don't you mean:

    Stay Suppressive, my friends.
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  32. eddieVroom Member

    I can haz federal rAids on Gold nao?..
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  33. Aurora Member

    So Scilons have accused Debbie of committing perjury.
    Perhaps Debbie should sue them for libel/slander. T'would be lulzy to watch the cult try to prove she was lying.
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  34. hushpuppy Member

    San Antonio Express reports on the case, but also interviews a couple of exes:
    Scientology trial ends abruptly – San Antonio Express
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  35. Random guy Member

    Ooooooo, people agreeing with her, but obeying OSA - for now. How many, 1000 cultists? That's actually a substantial bit of the cult, and that is just the people who has e-mailed her their support.

    David Miscavige, I think you may have a real problem on your hands!
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  36. hushpuppy Member

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  37. LarryBren Member

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  38. Anonymous Member

    If Miscavige is violently insane, isn't that grounds for committing him to a mental hospital? Don't laugh, it's quite possible that he is clinically insane and psychiatrists are the only ones who can help him.
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  39. Anonymous Member

    Irony works and it helps people!
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  40. Anonymous Member


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