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Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RandomTexfag, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. RandomTexfag Member

    Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    This is slightly important.

    It's for a super sekrit projekt I'm working on.

    I know the Scilons are all batshit convinced that Anon is in league with the Psychiatric community, but have they publicly announced this? Has a spokesperson actually come out and said this? Forum posts don't count, I need something I can cite as a source.
  2. RandomTexfag Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    It IS relevant to the project I'm working on.

    I can't work with an "eventually they will", I can't work with generalizations.

    I need absolute proof that the Church of Scientology has already publicly stated that Anonymous is funded by Psychiatry.

    Cranky Texfag is cranky in the mornings :(
  3. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Posted this in the wrong thread by accident. *cough*
    No official release on this (regarding Anon being funded), but individual scis have made these claims.
    Looks to me like they all were fed the same story about Anon.

    EDIT: There was a report of Scientology panicking about us being Xenu's minions (I am serious), and Tom Cruise speculating about the voice in the first Anon video adressing the leaders of Scientology, he said it was borg like.
  4. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    The Japanese Scilons are saying that it's Eli-Lily and the pharmaceutical companies. Though they've been a bit coy about it -- more like "secret hints" and such, instead of actually saying it straight up.

    Edit: Cut out copypasta. Forum posts don't count...

    Though, the Psychiatry: Industry of Death exhibit might offer some proof... dunno...
  5. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    If you are refering to me, I wrote this myself, just posted in the wrong thread as I said.
  6. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Ah, nope, not at all. I can see how my language was fail.

    I had copypasta'd a bunch of stuff from 2chan boards, but then I noticed the "forums don't count" thing in the OP, so I cut out/snipped my own copypasta. :oops:
  7. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    They'll never publicly say it, but yes they believe Anonymous is in league with the evil marcabian whole track psychiatrists. Check out this video by Scientologist Rich Ramsey. It's called 'Message to Anonymous,' but its an attack on psychiatry.

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=pAevq5j2OQ0
  8. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    There WAS the internal leak (found here in Interstellar Invasion thread) that claimed that ANONYMOUS was the sockpuppet of the fourth (or fifth) Maracabian Fleet under the control of the Psychs. But thus far DM has not been stupid enough to say it on tape (if he has Co$ insiders leak away...not only is it epic LULZ, it's proof of his dementia..)
  9. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    After just having read the Terror Plot/ 911 thread, and now coming to this...

    Has anything official actually been said about us by CoS? We have a lot of "insider leaks", but do we have any official announcements? I take the 4th or 5th Marcabian Fleet thing with a grain of salt (though it is infinitely lullifying)
  10. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    The Co$ only mentioned us negatively, part of their smear campaign, the common bullshit, Mein Kampf, cyber terrorists, internet geeks etc.
    To their members, Tom Cruise said that Xenu/Fleet stuff, but about us being paid by the German gov, I just remembered that a seriously insane person accused us of that too. In fact, she is so crazy, she has been kicked out of the church for being too much of a nut job. I forgot her name, I could dig it up from where this has been discussed and lol'd about if requested. Anyway, she is not connected to the Church at all, yet shares the same accusations.
    I think there was a letter from the OSA about us too, but I completely forgot what it was about.
  11. NamelessEnvoy Member

  12. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Yeah, the smear campaign, hate crimes etc., cheap shots.
    Did we ever find out who is responsible for these pro Sci articles in the SP Times?
    This isn't the only one.
  13. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    It wasn't a pro-Scio article --
    rather, just a reprint of CoS's public statement.

    Apparently, SP Times gets a lot of grief from CoS because they print a lot of *negative* things about them.
  14. NamelessEnvoy Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    That one was the Staff (a reprint as per above), saw one by Susan Taylor, the proxy I'm on can't search their site (and they have a whole article devoted to Clearwater / Sci base, which made me go O.O "hey, maybe I'm in the wrong spot, I was looking for independent journalism lol?" ).

    Maybe they're just a bit too close to the subject matter (IE: A bias from presence, not from participation) ? It's hard to write unbiased stories when a topic impacts things around you. If Sci provided a lot of revenue to the area, and they were scared, the entire population interested in the local economy would be scared.

    Part of the problem with Sci in the US is that it's become entrenched in some communities. At least where I live it's just a run down building on the outskirts of town. :p Plus it was in the IRS FFS. They have power there that I cannot understand for the life of me.
  15. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    There were a few articles calling us terrorists and accusing of bigotry.
    Not like I knew wth bigotry means, but people tend to dislike jerks that print off this one sided bullcrap, and that serveral times.
    I'd say they have scis in SP Times, or are there really any negative articles about Scientology by SP Times? I never got to see those.
  16. xyzzy65535 Member

  17. rasputin Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Beed9: were the articles you're referring to editorials from the paper, or general articles which included quotes from cult spokespeople? that's a very significant difference to be honest.

    in one of the Miscavige videos (I think from the OT summit) he went into quite a rant against the SP Times as one of the enemies of the Church. this[/url:kehcrjec] article from them gives a fairly good rundown of recent CoS crimes. while I don't doubt they do everything they can (including both infiltration and legal bullying among other things) to get the paper to toe their line, they haven't got as far as they would like to put it mildly.
  18. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Oh thanks, I never got to see these :D
    To answer the question if the articles were quotes or not, frankly, I didn't read all of it because it was expected/heard it already a hundreth times.
    EDIT: About DM videos, I don't watch these either, I simply don't want to work with a dictionary when I am supposed to see/listen.
  19. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Yeah, just reading through some of the archives now.
    The language seems a bit... Scio-friendly, though it's blurry enough not to be obvious.
    Though, reading about The Netherlands banning CoS was pretty scathing. Front page, but I'm not sure if it was written by an SP Times writer or taken from AP.

    Though here's something interesting... :p
    http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/acc ... importance

    Also, be aware -- Page 2 is the editorial/opinions section, so it doesn't really count.

    Here's the Scientology section of SP Times:
    http://www.sptimes.com/2007/webspecials ... ientology/
  20. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?


    I am not sure what we can call an official statement by the CO$. Unless you mean a tape of Dm actually SAYING it.

    Evidence of some sort of statement issued internally to members is evident in the copypasta of CO$ posters. They use the same points, Bigotry, terrorisim, "I'd rather be watching porn", go read for yourself, blah blah. They are all apparently writing from a common source even if we have not seen it.
  21. southernstate Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Actually the St. Pete paper is pretty balanced, from what I've seen. The Clearwater Org is not a fan at all.
  22. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    I've been watching the A&E "Inside Scientology" videos.

    Apparently, after the Time magazine article, they accused Time magazine of being a puppet for Eli-Lily.
  23. RandomTexfag Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Okay, so to compile:

    Everything we know CoS has publicly said about us.

    1) Cyber-Terrorists (who doesn't call us cyber-terrorists though?)
    2) Terrorists (good)
    3) Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto (This one is GOOD, I can REALLY work with this one)
    4) Religious bigots (May be able to work with it, dunno)

    that's all I know I can cite as a source, the Psychiatry bit would be my ace in the hole though, if ANYONE can find a source that I can cite, you would win SO many internets...
  24. Beed9 Member

  25. RandomTexfag Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Funny, except, at the very bottom of the page.
  26. Beed9 Member

    Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    And this stuff spread.
    Hilarious nonetheless.
  27. Whitehat Member

  28. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Well, here is church spokeman Heber's reaction to a critic on a famous radio show.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKdLFJpghqM the audio of it is on this clip, just need to rip the audio.
  29. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Hey name is Barbara Schwartz, formerly the president of CofS in Germany. She's so nutty that even the cult told her to seek professional help. Some info on her here:

    http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz

    Don't mention her too much or she might appear.
  30. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    Classic! I took something of an interest in Heber when I heard that clip. He's currently being held prisoner at Int Base in Hemet, CA. There's plenty of funny Heber stuff.

    http://tinyurl.com/3xnxrm
  31. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

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  32. Re: Did the Scilons actually say we're funded by Psychiatry?

    That sci.org website is official, I believe. It doesn't directly point to us, but I think that it's the general consensus in CoS that ANY opposition is funded by Psychiatry. So maybe there wasn't a specific denunciation of Anonymous, but just sort of "general knowledge" within the org makes it seem that we are.

    I like how, in that "article", there are a lot of facts, but neither provable nor disprovable ones. It's like it was written by a junior high school kid...

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