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DISCUSSION THREAD: List of everything CO$ charges money for

Discussion in 'Projects' started by Anonymous, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Ok, More fraud questions keep popping up for narconon. The 990's often say that they teach "life skills", yet these are in reality scilon courses. Do those officially count as life skills? They ARE charging for the courses, because its listed under "income from sales" in the 990s. So that is ONE more thing to keep in mind when we report them for fraud.

    Which brings up the next question, how should we report this? To the media, the DOJ, or the IRS? We have more criminal fraud then we do tax fraud, but at this point, its all looking pretty bad.
  2. Anonymous Member

    I will be posting my reports on all 18 of the Narconon 990s, soon.

    The posting will probably take the form of 18 separate posts, because there are screen caps to manage for each report. I'm getting the screen caps organized this morning. We can decide later if these posts warrant another thread.

    The reports list all the names connected with a given NN outfit.

    These should obtain name checkups with - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/a/

    Whenever names correspond directly to scientology, I smell conflicts-of-interest.

    In addition to personal names, there are businesses associated with a few of the 990s. We need who-what-where research done on these businesses, too.
  3. Anonymous Member


    Ah, how could i forget, the other scilon fronts that get all the contractor work for CON!!!. There is so much fraud. I feel that the reason why they were never investigated, is that they were one of the older official non-profit rehabs. there status was awarded in 1973, so they were not on anyone's radar.

    That must have been an awful lot of tedious work. Thank you.The awesome part, is that this information is extremely useful across the board for every aspect of Co$ research. It also gives us an idea as to who the suppliers are, which is very important for demonstrating that they are scamming people. Vitamins are not expensive, yet they charge way too much money for their "treatment". Also, i doubt that they have a"bidding" process that other organizations have, so once it becomes clear that they only do business with scilons, that will also demonstrate that its all about the fraud, and not about treating addicts(who are paying for treatment).

    Have you had a chance to look at the betty ford pdf? Its 83 pages long, and very illuminating as to how shady CON!!! really is. The biggest thing that jumps out is the fact that betty ford has FINANCIAL AID, as in they give up their own money to help addicts recover, as well as train doctors. I have not seen ANY mention of financial aid with CON!!!.

    i will try to get some more useful stuff, or relevant observations when i get them, and post them here. I have been reading some of the narconon pdfs, comparing them with other organizations, and trying to get an understanding as to what they are doing with the money, besides sending it to CO$.

    You guys are amazing. Have you ever thought about doing this stuff professionally? Researchers like you would be a very hot asset to a legal firm, or government law enforcement entity.
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  5. Anonymous Member

    Based on what i have seen, the best way to prove that the purif is a scam, is to begin by explaining each aspect of it starting with the the dangerous aspects and show how each and every step fails to rehabilitate an addict. I will also have to get a list of the victims of CON!! as well. Because of the death toll, i believe a fraud complaint should be placed with the DOJ first, after we get the evidence together. One thing that will help, is after the list of people associated with CON!! is posted, we reference that list to see if anyone has a criminal record.

    The other useful thing, is that if no one associated with CON!! has any real world qualifications, this would be very helpful if proving that they do not know what they are doing.
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  6. Anonymous Member

  7. Anonymous Member

    SYLMAR California - 2011 990 - NARCONON DRUG PREVENTION & EDUCATION
    Code:
    WWW.DRUG-PREVENTION.ORG
    Officers:

    Anthony C. Bylsma - 13850 Graber Avenue Sylmar CA 91342-2622

    Sigal Adini - 13850 Graber Avenue Sylmar CA 91342-2622

    Mark Schwartz - P.O.Box 291729 Los Angeles CA90029

    Daphne Hernandez - 611 Villa Street Pasadena CA 91101

    ^^^^^ This name shows up in another NN operation:

    FRIENDS OF NARCONON (It is also misspelled “DAPHNA” in the “Friends Of Narconon 990).

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    (David Puliafico also prepared a 990 for Watsonville).
  8. Anonymous Member

    SUNCOAST 2011 990 - NARCONON SPRING HILL

    Officers:

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    SEAN STRICKLING (TREASURER) AND TAMMY STRICKLING (EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR) ARE MARRIED.
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    NARCONON SPRING HILL INC
    Code:
     WWW.SUNCOASTREHABCENTER.COM
    PRINCIPAL OFFICER NAME AND ADDRESS:

    SEAN STRICKLING

    LOANS:

    An X in the YES BOX:
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    (Peggy Howard also prepared a 990 for Fort Collins & Narconon International).
  9. Anonymous Member


    OK, i see how that works now. I was very confused the first time i saw that page, i thought it was a type of 404 error. So i just type in what i want to search for, and it will show me threads connected to it? That is very helpful.

    I am not very computer savvy. I specialize in numbers, regulations, and meticulous scrutiny of the books. I will give that a look over. It seems to be easier to navigate then deathhamsters archives.
  10. Anonymous Member

    Texas − 990 EZ 2010 (short form)

    NARCONON SOUTH TEXAS INC
    Code:
    WWW.LIFEWITHOUTDRUGS.COM
    PO BOX 530597

    HARLINGEN,TX78553-0597

    Officers:

    JUAN D.VILLARREAL - CHAIRMAN/PRESIDENT

    17697 ABD ROAD, HARLINGEN, TX 785552

    JOSE F.LOPEZ

    17697 ABD ROAD,HARLINGEN,TX785552

    NENECIOE.LOPEZ, MD

    17697 ABD ROAD, HARLINGEN, TX 785552

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    Paid Preparer’s name missing:

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  11. Anonymous Member

    Florida Narconon 1 2011 − 990: (there are three 990s for Florida, two are named '1' and '2' and the third is 'Destin, Florida.'

    NARCONON EASTERN UNITED STATES
    Code:
    narcononeastus.org
    Officers:

    Name and address of principal officer:

    (1)Yvonne Rodgers - President/Director 611 S FT HARRISON AVE CLEARWATER FL 33756

    (2)Deborah Lower - Treasurer/Director

    (3)David Rodgers - Secretary/Director

    Form 990, Part VI, Line 2 - Related Party Information Among Officers

    Yvonne Rodgers / David Rodgers - Husband and wife.

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    Roland Fink also prepared a Georgia 990, the Glendale 990 and the Narconon International 990.

    This is 4/18. Fourteen more to post.

    To be continued...
  12. Anonymous Member

    ^^^^
    thank you

    This looks like it was tedious.
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  13. Anonymous Member

    You're welcome.

    Yes, very tedious. When all the 990s are posted, I'll be taking a break from this kind of work.

    Next, I have some totally unrelated keyboard work to finish and it will be a welcome contrast to examining barely legible PDFs created by vile, evil scientologists.

    I have found it interesting that a mere eighteen NNs are operating in the USA, and by the look of the dates on some of the 990s, a few may in fact be dead.

    Narconon is all but completely shut down in Canada.

    Quite recently, I saw a Craigslist post by the Vancouver cult, hawking their purif rundown but making no mention of narconon. This is a predictable strategy now that the Trois Rivieres cash cow is dead.

    As for dealing with more of the same, I am willing to examine, on the same basis, any USA 990s from the "church" of scientology, or tax returns from anywhere, as long as they were filed by the "church."
  14. Anonymous Member


    I can keep scilon 990's coming. If you ever get a chance, just skim through the betty ford 990, Look at the mission statements, how it was filled out, and the lack of spelling errors(the scilons misspelled a lot of things) to see the difference in how they file. I recommend all annons do this,with all things scilon; this is the first step in spotting a discrepancy, I have seen a very clear pattern when i review non-profit rehabs that are in it for treatment, not for money. Narconon is clearly a scam. The good thing about posting the names, is that it makes things much easier to look up. You never know, some journalist out there may stumble upon this, and next thing you know, a media frenzy.

    Once i get some good dox that debunk the purif, I can figure out how to report narconon as a scam. I believe that since there is a death toll, we would have more success telling the relevant DOJ/state entities first, afterwards inform the IRS. This would cause some very expensive legal battles/pr black eyes for CO$.

    The other question, is do scilons get a commission for selling books? I noticed that narconon always mentions "teaching life skills" as one of their important goals, so are they selling the scilon books directly, or are scilons using it as an opportunity to make money? If this is the case, then we have yet another means of causing an IRS audit/investigation.

    Is there a former narconon "patient" thread? i would like to read more about how people were "treated" there.The thing about reporting this type of stuff, is you want a LOT of things to report. Narconon, needs to be thoroughly investigated.

    this has sort of derailed the UBI project, however, seeing as people have died, and the scilon narconon books are absurdly cooked, this will be a short derail. To give one example: After looking at some of the "loans" they made, I believe that all of them were inappropriate. If you look at the pdfs, there is no mention of interest revenue earned. That tells me that they are either not reporting the interest from the loans(a felony) or that they are not charging interest(an inappropriate use of non-profit money, also a felony) This is such basic stuff, that teach it in high school bookkeeping in some parts of the country, and its in every freshman accounting class in the colleges. Its absurd.
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  15. Anonymous Member

    I appreciate your overviews, the questions those raise and your areas of expertise.

    Yeah, we gotta get the NN purif debunked or find a published debunking.

    I believe that cult members do get a percentage from book & DVD sales. I forget the amounts involved. I'm not an ex-scientologist, so my detailed knowledge of protocols and practice is very limited.

    I do know that book/dvd etc., sales are used as a metric of statistical success, known as "stats" in the trade.

    AFAIK, reports from "patients" of NN on WWP are somewhat scattered. There could be a consolidation project for that material. It often comes from 'guest' posters and it is rare for any of those to register and participate fully in the dialogues.

    There are a number of other sites committed to taking NN down. I'll try to find time to prepare a listing of these.

    I will take a close look at the Betty Ford 990 for the characteristics you mention. Thank you for the recommendation of that document and the reasons for your recommendation.

    For the lulz, I'll post another NN 990 involving "a loan..." after posting this.
  16. Anonymous Member

    Narconon Georgia - 2011 990

    5688 Peachtree Parkway

    Norcross GA 30092-284E
    Code:
    www.drugsno.com
    Officers:

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    The "X" is in a YES Box.

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    (Roland Fink also prepared 990s for Glendale, Florida and NN International which is interesting re: the Georgia NN Bust).
  17. Anonymous Member

    Boston 2009 − 990-EZ

    Narconon Inc.

    76 Winn St. Suite 2C, Woburn, MA 01801

    Officers:

    Maria Di Llegro - 76 Winn St. Suite 2C, Woburn, MA 01801

    Michele Savelo - 76 Winn St. Suite 2C - Woburn, MA 01801

    Sue Blrkenshaw - 76 Winn St. Suite2C, Woburn, MA 01801

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    I found the item below odd. Michele Savelo, an entry about a loan:
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    Extensive search could find no details about this or the other “loan.”

    But this popped up:

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    No details supplied for the above listed loan.


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  18. Anonymous Member

    Narconon International - 2011 - 990

    Code:
     www.narconon.org 
    Officers:

    (1) Clark Carr President/Director

    (2) Diana Petit

    (3) Laurie Zurn

    (4) Chelsea Zwan

    (5) Patricia Schwartz

    (6)Leslie Browning

    (7)Phil Hart

    (8)Claudia Arcabas

    (9)Peter Van Auken
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    (Roland Fink also prepared 990s for Glendale, Florida and Georgia).

    Business Transaction - Family Member:

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    I feel compelled to include the material below from Narconon International:

    On Page #27:

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    And Page #28:

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    Of interest in this Narconon International 990/2011, it is one of the very largest returns, in terms of number of pages, and has many International cash operations listed.

    EDIT:

    There is some potentially useful information here...

    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/entity.php?ntt=25

    ... about NN and taxes.
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  19. Anonymous Member

    Fort Collins - 2011 - 990

    A Life Worth Living
    Code:
    www.drugfreecolorado.com
    1225 Redwood Street

    Fort Collins, CO 80524

    Officers:

    Principal Officer - Glen Petcavage

    (1) Glen Petcavage Executive Director/Director

    (2) Toi Niemi Director

    (3) John Chan Director

    (4) Susan Anderson Director

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    The items below are of interest:

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    Schedule L, Part IV below - Common Law wife of Glen Petcavage rents property to the NN operation:

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    (Peggy Howard also prepared the Suncoast 990)
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  20. Anonymous Member

    Friends Of Narconon - 2011 - 990

    NARCONON DRUG PREVENTION & EDUCATION
    Code:
    friendsofnarconon.org 
    Officers:


    Patty Schwartz 13111 - MIRA MAR DR SYLMAR CA 91342

    Robert Hernandez - 622 E VILLA ST PASADENA CA 91101-1120

    *Daphne Hernandez - 622 E VILLA ST PASADENA CA 90001-1120

    *[This name shows up in another NN operation - NARCONON DRUG PREVENTION & EDUCATION - Sylmar] - It is also misspelled “DAPHNA” in the “Sylmar 990."

    Jed Wolfe - 3941 VESELICH AVE LOS ANGELES CA 90039

    And here’s a screen cap of the above because of the two hats worn by Patty Schwartz - Exec Director and Secretary Director:
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    “Daphna” should be spelled DAPHNE.

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    Preparation by: (some of these are tricky because of the block out on the right).

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    (Darren Bloch also prepared the Fresh Start Narconon 990).
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  21. Anonymous Member

    Narconon Fresh Start - 2011 - 990
    Code:
    www.drugrehab.com 
    Officers:

    (1)Lawrence Trahan - CEO/Director

    (2)Patricia Schwartz - Director

    (3)Yarko Manzanare - Director

    (4)Karen Seagal - Trustee

    (s)Clark Carr - Trustee

    (6)Michael St. Amand - Trustee

    (7)Christopher Bauge - VP/Dir Intake

    (8)Glenn Farnsworth

    (9)Linda Kloeffler - CFO

    (10)Daniel Carmicha - Student Intake

    (11)Joshua Penn - Student intake

    (12)Richard Bartlem - Programmer

    (13)Ian Confer - Dir Administration

    (14) Shannon Farnsworth - Administrator

    Address: 225 W Broadway Suite 420 - Glendale CA 91204

    There are very large salary cash flows here:

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    Contractor:

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    Business Transactions and Family Member relationships:

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    (Darren Bloch also prepared a 990 for Friends of Narconon).
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  22. Anonymous Member

    Narconon Gulf Coast - Destin Florida - 2011 - 990
    Code:
    WWW. NARCONONGULFCOAST. COM
    Officers:

    DR. BARRY CARPENTER - 200 BEACH DRIVE, DESTIN, FL 32541

    JOSEPH HEFLIN, MD - 3391 SCENIC HIGHWAY 98 EAST, DESTIN, FL 32541

    JANE BAILEY - 8 HEMLOCK TERRACE, KENNELON, NJ 07405

    KAREN CARRAWAY - 502 RISEN STARR, CRESTVIEW, FL 32539

    Name and address of principal officer:

    DEBORAH V. ROSS

    3391 SCENIC HIGHWAY 98 EAST DESTIN , FL 32541

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    FORM 990, PART VI, SECTION A, LINE 2:

    DEBORAH V. ROSS AND HERBERT R. ROSS ARE MARRIED. BOTH ARE DIRECTORS.

    LOANS:

    DEBORAH V. ROSS AND HERBERT R. ROSS

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    Attached Files:

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  23. Anonymous Member

    Narconon Florida (2) - 2011 990

    NARCONON FLORIDA, INC
    Code:
    WWW.NARCONONFLORIDA.ORG    
    Officers:

    Cheryl A. Alderman

    22073 US HWY 19 NORTH

    CLEARWATER FL 33765-2364

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    LOAN:

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  24. Anonymous Member

    Glendale, California - 2011 990

    NARCONON WESTERN UNITED STATES

    Officers:

    LURIA K DION

    200 N MARYLAND AVE

    GLENDALE CA 91206

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    Books and Records:

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    Roland Fink, CPA appears in a few of these 990s:

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    This part looks interesting:

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    (Eight Seven more 990s to go and to be continued...)
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  25. Anonymous Member

    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/person.php?person_id=4

    Roland Fink is a known scilon. Have we seen any non-scilons doing their taxes? Very interesting. This brings up more questions, like do scilon fronts discriminate against non scilons for hiring practices? While this might not seem like a big deal, it is when federal and state government contracts are handed out. Remember, we have to pursue every angle if we want to bring this cult to justice. People have died because no one bothered to ask these questions.
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  26. Anonymous Member

    Letters and correspondence regarding Narconon's therapy
    Official evaluations of Narconon
    Other evaluations of Narconon
    • Evaluation of Narconon
      By Peter Gerdman, 1 May 1986
      A report by a sociologist commissioned by Narconon, which Narconon has claimed shows a 78.6% rehabilitation rate but actually shows only a 6.6% success rate by Narconon's own criteria. See also "Does Narconon Work? - Studies".
    From here - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/sources/critical.htm
  27. Anonymous Member

    I'm cross posting this from:

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...k-translation-help-needed.92723/#post-2389529

    ... because it's relevant.
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  28. Anonymous Member

    The Betty Ford 990 for 2011 is astonishing!

    I was amazed to see and read the independent auditor's report and read about the Financial Aid, not only for the clients but very well articulated retirement programs for staff!

    I agree that the Betty Ford 990 PDF can serve as a measuring stick for all or any of the cult 990s we examine - CCHR, narconon, criminon, the "church" et al.

    Kind of delighted to see this name on the Betty Ford Foundation masthead for President:

    John Boop Betty Ford 2.png

    gonna get em kitten boop.gif
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  29. Anonymous Member


    It pisses me off. Narconon and rehabs like it, have hurt our society in ways that we may never know. Their piss poor success rate, along with their lies, have siphoned money away from treatment and research into addiction disorders. They have been doing this for over 40 years. that's 40 years uncountable damage to our society.

    I will post the gate way foundation rehab 990's next. While not as big as the betty ford, they are still bigger then the narconon ones, and are of a better quality as well.
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  30. Quentinanon Member

    "Schedule L, Part IV below - Common Law wife of Glen Petcavage rents property to the NN operation:"

    Really? What is her name?
    Colorado

    The elements of a common-law marriage are, with respect to both spouses: (1) holding themselves out as husband and wife; (2) consenting to the marriage; (3) cohabitation; and (4) having the reputation in the community as being married.[9] Different sources disagree regarding the requirement of cohabitation and some indicate that consummation (i.e. post-marital sexual intercourse) is also an element of common law marriage. Colorado, by statute, no longer recognizes common law marriages entered by minors in Colorado, and also does not recognize foreign common law marriages entered into by minors, even if that marriage would have been valid where entered into under local law. See Section 14-2-109.5, Colorado Revised Statutes. The constitutionality of this limitation as applied to foreign marriages has not been tested in litigation.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Maybe?

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  32. Anonymous Member

    There is a site (don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread) called 'Reaching For the Tipping Point' http://www.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/ which is devoted to Narconon topics. www.xenu.net also has narconon info.
  33. Anonymous Member


    Thanks for this link. I will be reading it a lot for a while.

    the common law wife bit is strange. I wonder what is going on there. This is the problem with audits, you never have enough time to do them when you do them for a living. Unfortunately for CO$, this is a hobby for us, so we are going to take our sweet time auditing them(so strange using the word audit, for its true, real, meaning in the context of $cientology). they better hope other insane accountants don't stumble upon this, otherwise, they will have the worst nightmare conceivable, accountants looking at your paperwork solely for the purposes of fucking you tax wise.
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  34. Anonymous Member

    I will finish with posting the NN 990s soon.

    Medical procedures today (nothing serious) + medication and I'm decompressing with a few fine drams of Jameson's Irish.
    Yes, Anon interrogation of this site is a priority. I've book-marked a few similar sites and will continue looking for the most credible debunking published. A group effort would make that task easier.

    Vivat!
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Narconon Hawaii - 2012 990
    Code:
    www.narcononhawaii.org 
    P.O. BOX 75246

    KAPOLEI

    ROBERT NEWMAN

    5741 BERNE AVE EWA BEACH

    HI 96707

    Officers:

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    This looks odd - the X in the NO Box but what about those two Manson names - Daniel and Angie Manson?

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  36. Anonymous Member

    Narconon LOUISIANA - 2011 990

    Narconon Louisiana New Life Retreat

    35059 BEND ROAD

    DENHAM SPRINGS, LA, 70706

    Officers:

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    Tom Steiner CFO is married to Cathy Steiner President.

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  37. Anonymous Member

    Narconon IDAHO - 2003 990

    Officers:

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    Old (2003) 990 - no mention of relationship of William F. Jensen to Maria G. Jensen.

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  38. Anonymous Member

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  39. Anonymous Member

    NARCONON Watsonville - 2011 990

    Narconon of Northern California

    NARCONON VISTA BAY
    Code:
    www.drugrehab.net
    Daniel M Manson

    262 Gaffey Road, Watsonville - CA 95076.9731

    Officers:

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    Daniel Manson and Angie Manson are married - (in another 990, there is no mention of marriage).

    Guernaccml and Dana Guernaccni are married, Matthew Guernaccir and Joseph Guernaccini are brothers.

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    (David Puliafico also prepared a 990 for Sylmar).

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    Independent Contractors:

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  40. Anonymous Member

    Narconon Oklahoma - 2011 − 990

    NARCONON OF OKLAHOMA INC
    Code:
    WWW.NARCONONARROWHEAD.ORG
    NARCONON ARROWHEAD

    69 ARROWHEAD LOOP

    CANADIAN, OK 74425

    Officers:

    GARY W SMITH

    69 ARROWHEAD LOOP

    CANADIAN,OK 74425

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    MICHAEL STAMAND, DIRECTOR/OFFICER, IS MARRIED TO MAUREEN STAMAND, OFFICER.

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    Contractors that received more than $100,000.00 of compensations:

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    Paid Preparer: MICHAEL STAMAND, SECRETARY (not signed)

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