DISCUSSION THREAD: List of everything CO$ charges money for

Discussion in 'Projects' started by Anonymous, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. Anonymous Member

    I will have cchr 990s here by Friday. The year is ending, so TAX season has begun.

    All information we glean and share will be helpful, and may save a life. Nothing is too small. Remember: From the snowflake, Avalanche!!!
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  2. Anonymous Member

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    I am really stupid. I have been really busy lately, but now have some free time, so i went to download the cchr 990's, only to discover that i downloaded them before.

    Here they are a little late.

    It looks like non-profits are going to be under a lot of scrutiny now. This means that the "lulz" are on their way.

    Attached Files:

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  5. Anonymous Member

    Here is one more cchr 990.

    Let me know if you want any other non-profits, or a publicly traded companies tax info.

    Attached Files:

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  6. Anonymous Member

    I wonder if Applied Scholastics is worth looking into? Alfreddie and that moonbat with the phoney "Dr." title.

    Thank you for the CCHR 990s. I'll study them all as time presents itself.
  7. Anonymous Member

    ok then, that's one vote for applied scholastics. Just let me know when you want to see the 990's.

    Also, when updated 990's show up, i will post them here too.
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  9. Anonymous Member

    I'll give this material a close reading. Thank you for posting it.

    I'm part way through the CCHR 990s. Unlike Narconon, there are no 'products' or 'services' rendered for business income of any kind. It's all about lobbying and disseminating the CCHR message. A fuck-ton of money is spent on lobbying.

    The costs of the dissemination activities are quite high.

    Those who have attended the CCHR public anti-psychiatry exhibition will recognize that a vast amount of money is spent on publishing very slick, glossy magazines and DVDs, given out to the public on a free-for-the-asking basis.

    For the cult itself of course, this dissemination activity qualifies as a shining example of their tireless benevolence and "charity."

    Interesting that of the dozen available CCHR 990s, only three of these are for 2011. The rest are scatted amongst everything from 2007 to 2010 with six of them for 2009. Does this reflect delayed filings?

    For locating and tracking UBI, I think that Applied Scholastics may be the next mother lode of financial data.

    TWTH is like CCHR and the volunteer ministers and are quite limited to dissemination and recruitment.
  10. Anonymous Member

    well, the trick to figuring out CCHR's fraud is to see how they are paying. Glossy magazines may be expensive, but are they worth the price that they are paying for them? Are they paying non-scilons to publish them? I am suspicious that the reason why there are so many older filings is because they have shrunk CCHR down. This has been a very bad recession, and people no longer have the money to spend on ufo cult nonsense anymore. Check it see if any of the names from the older ones appear on the newer ones, that would be an indicator for if they consolidated their size.

    I will get the applied scholastic 990's next.
  11. Anonymous Member

    I'll get right on that name checking. Quite early on while reading the CCHR 990s, I saw names that appear regularly in the Narconon 990s as well as the various CCHR 990s. It all appears to be a floating crap game.

    I'll compose some lists, all machine readable.
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    I've seen this before.

    There are five references to scientology in the PDF and all of them appear to refer to cases and possible precedents. Four of them refer to the same case:

    Return information from which identifiers (e.g., name, taxpayer identification number, zip code) have been deleted is still subject to the disclosure restrictions of section 6103. The statute is more than an identity test. See Church of Scientology of Cal. v. IRS, 484 U.S. 9, 14-18 (1987); Long v. IRS, No. 08-35672, 2010 WL 3677445 at *2-3 (9th Cir. Sept. 16, 2010) (confidential return information “maintains that status when it appears unaltered in a tabulation with only identifying information removed,” citing Long v. IRS, 891 F.2d 222, 223 (9th Cir. 1989) (even after deletion of taxpayer identifying information, TCMP check sheets containing reported and corrected return line item data were return information, and were not a reformulated database eligible for disclosure under the Haskell amendment)); Judicial Watch, Inc., 799 F. Supp. 2d at 96-97 (list of employers sent “no-match” letters identifies particular employer taxpayers and therefore is not a statistical compilation).

    1. “Third-party returns and return information” mean returns and return information filed with, or received, prepared, or collected by, the IRS with respect to the liability or possible liability under the Code of a taxpayer (or a group of specific taxpayers) who are not parties to the proceeding. A third-party return is a return that is filed with the IRS by, on behalf of, or with respect to, a person who is not a party to the tax proceeding. Third-party return information is return information, as defined in section 6103(b)(2), with respect to a person who is not a party to the tax proceeding. Documents that consist of returns or return information retain their character as section 6103-protected returns or return information even if they do not identify the taxpayer, or if data that can identify the taxpayer is redacted. Church of Scientology v. United States, 484 U.S. 9 (1987). Copies of tax returns, or information derived from tax returns, retained by the taxpayer are not returns or return information as defined in section 6103(b)(2); their character as returns or return information is determined at the time the material is first collected or received by the IRS. Copying a tax return, or return information, of one taxpayer for use in a proceeding pertaining to another taxpayer does not make it the return or return information of the second taxpayer; the material remains the return or return information of the first taxpayer.

    Thus, returns and return information are to be kept confidential unless disclosure is permitted by some specific provision of the Code. See Church of Scientology of Cal. v. IRS, 484 U.S. 9, 12 (1987). The unauthorized disclosure of returns or return information may result in civil damages against the United States (I.R.C. § 7431) and/or criminal penalties against the individual who disclosed the information (I.R.C. § 7213). See Nowicki v. Comm'r, 262 F.3d 1162, 1163 (11th Cir. 2001). See generally Chapter 2, Part I.

    C. Exemption 3

    Exemption 3 requires agencies to withhold information "specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than the FOIA), provided that such statute (A)(i) requires that the matters be withheld from the public in such a manner as to leave no discretion on the issue; or (ii) establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to particular types of matters to be withheld; and (B) if enacted after the date of enactment of the OPEN FOIA Act of 2009, specifically cites to this paragraph." 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(3) (2009). Section 6103 of the Code is the type of statute to which subsection 3 of FOIA applies. Church of Scientology of California v. IRS, 484 U.S. 9, 11 (1987); Chamberlain v. Kurtz, 589 F.2d 827, 843 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 842 (1979). Under section 6103(a), returns and return information "shall be confidential" and can be disclosed only as authorized by Title 26.

    The definition of return information excludes statistical studies and other compilations of data in a form which cannot be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer. I.R.C. § 6103(b)(2). This does not mean that the IRS can disclose information from a bond examination even if identifying information is redacted. Information retains its status as return information even if the identifiers are deleted. See Church of Scientology of Cal. v. IRS, 484 U.S. 9, 15 (1987). The IRS may disclose amalgamations of data, e.g., that it is examining particular classes of cases or particular types of abuses, so long as the individual issuances being looked at cannot be identified. In addition, non-identifiable statistical data (such as that compiled in the Statistics of Income Bulletin) may be disclosed.
  16. Anonymous Member

    OHHHHH, those stupid dumbasses!! This is BEFORE they were declared an official "church" which meant that their taxes were not public record. Now that they are an official "church" they are required by law to make their 990's available by public request.
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  17. Anonymous Member

    an excerpt for getting 990's

    • Check the Web sites of the Secretary of State or Attorney General in the state where the organization is incorporated. Some states may make 990s and other public documents available online or upon individual request. The National Association of State Charity Officials (NASCO) provides a listing of state charity offices.
    • Request them from the organization directly. Requests made in person must be fulfilled immediately, or within 30 days for a written request, with no charge other than a reasonable fee to cover photocopying and mailing expenses. Also, check their Web site for posted copies.
    • Request them from the IRS. The IRS generally takes 4-6 weeks to respond, and it may bill you for copying costs.
    Any ex scilons want to go over and directly ask to see a 990?
    I stole this from another thread.
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    GAT II Product Prices (Hat Tip to wolfbane for the reconnaissance):

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  20. tinfoilhatter Member

    This is an obscure law that i think might be relevant with narconon. It is certainly relevant with CCHR and other lobbying that Co$ engages in. The interesting aspect of it, is that it is a vaguely worded law that is intended to help build cases of corruption.

    I am not a lawyer however, so i do not know how useful this would be.
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  21. Anonylemmi Member

    This is like discussing Rule 34. If it exists, they will charge for it. And get away with it until forced to stop.
  22. tinfoilhatter Member

    this is mostly used on public figures. Which makes me wonder, how relevant is it for the LA sheriff? He was very shady, especially in the way he handled Shelly miscavage's missing persons report. He may be guilty of honest services fraud in that instance(probably a lot of others too if people dig). This might be helpful for any california anons interested in finding shelly/exposing the sheriff.

    This s a very odd law. Its vague on purpose because it is meant to be used for any instance of corruption. I may mention it in the FOI threads too.It looks like it may be helpful there.

    The main reason why i bring it up, is it has some serious implications for rehabs that take people due to sentencing. I am not familiar with the court ordered rehab process, and i am sure it various between judges as well as states. However, seeing as narconon's tract record contradicts its claims, if they were to take ANY government money, or handle anyone who was sentenced to rehab, i believe that any wrong doing on their part would be prosecutable under this law.

    Once more however, i am not a lawyer, and laws vary drastically from state to state. This is a newer law however, and i think it could be very useful.
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  23. tinfoilhatter Member

    Form 3949-A,

    This is an important form. While it is very hard to remove tax exempt status from a church. Reporting individuals who are committing tax fraud is not. As we investigate more into the dealings with "church" front groups, we will undoubtedly uncover someone that is committing prosecutable tax fraud. The beautiful thing about a fraud investigation, is that it uncovers multiple people real fast.

    Keep in mind that "organized crime" is a reportable offense. Not sure what the IRS definition of "organized crime" is.
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  24. tinfoilhatter Member

    I am very curious, Do non-profits fall under the UCC, specific laws, or both? If non-profits DO fall under the UCC, then narconon has a serious problem, because that would mean that all their services have a warranty, and their "70%" success rate would count as violating good faith for any contracts with consumers.

    As it stands however, $cientology fronts like able and wise probably do fall under the UCC.

    I am not a lawyer however, so i have no idea how to interpret the UCC in these incidents.
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    Yeah, A LOT of religious institutions are going to be hit with some heavy tax burdens in the near future.

    There is also a very ugly rumor floating about, that the IRS will deliberately bring weak arguments to its supreme court trials. The reason is that they feel that there is not enough instruction and oversight in the tax law to regulate tax exempt status for religious entities, and that they want to force congress to make a straight forward amendment or guidelines that can be enforced.

    But that is just a rumor. We will have to wait and see in regards to the FFRF lawsuits.

    Oh, and PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES PEOPLE, April is around the corner. Most of you should get a refund anyway.
  28. tinfoilhatter Member

    This is useful for getting a better understanding when making reports.

    Based on what has been gathered so far, I believe we have enough information to begin an operation to close down narconon. I will start a new thread in the think tank.
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  29. tinfoilhatter Member

    The narcarnon intel dump thread has been established in the think tank. Please only post sources that you feel are evidence of fraud or wrong doing. Before we start an op narconon shut down, lets make sure we have enough information to make it quick and decisive.
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  30. tinfoilhatter Member

    what do we have here on "freeloader bills"?

    "Critics of Scientology, including former Scientologists, have compared the RPF with the gulag system of the Soviet Union.[11] Leaving the Sea Org, even from the RPF, results in what Scientology calls "freeloader debt" or a "freeloader's bill": retroactive billing for any auditing received or any Scientology training received while in the Sea Org, which can run into tens of thousands of dollars. This "freeloader debt" is however not legally binding and no one actually needs to pay anything.[12] However, many former Scientologists have reported that they felt trapped by the "freeloader debt" policy.[13]"

    I believe that this "freeloader debt" would not count as tax free at all. It also has some serious implications tax wise. If the cult charged people to live in the facilities, then they would lose a lot of the tax free/tax deductible benefits to these buildings.
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  31. Anonymous Member

    The UBI side to the "freeloader debt" is a nice rock to have looked under.

    Nicely spotted!

    I need an American perspective on the legality and "tax" sides to it.

    What with the Court Case in Texas exposing the cult blatantly wanting to be recognized as a "Business" and a "Religious Organization," and all that shit threatening to do some serious unraveling, this UBI issue again comes into sharper focus.

    I haven't yet read the latest Court Docs for the case, but I suspect that the unraveling may already be well underway.
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Yummy stuff from Tony Ortega's Site:

    Scientology 2011 Tax Returns!




    And one more...

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    "f you had church employee income of $108.28 or more, you must pay SE tax. Church employee income is wages you received as an employee (other than as a minister or member of a religious order) of a church or qualified church-controlled organization that has a certificate in effect electing an exemption from employer social security and Medicare taxes."

    This is interesting, I wonder how it would affect auditors.
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