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Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by tippytoe, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. tippytoe Member

    Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Link to Youtube:



    I can't get this out of my head after hearing it today. Bloodcurdling. These fuckers must be brought to justice somehow.
  2. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Fuck. I thought I'd heard/seen the vast majority of Scientology bombshell recordings. This one takes the cake.

    I haven't seen this one in circulation. I see from the notes it's from '88. Did I just miss it? My Google-Fu isn't bringing up much with "wally hanks" +(marco|beating), other than recent references to this vid being released.
  3. Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    How do we know if this is real?
  4. blah Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    needs context and a transcript.
  5. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    It looks like "ronbot" over at exscientologykids may have known Marco based on his posts over there. Someone with an account there wanna ask for the back-story?
  6. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    We don't. I'm a dox or GTFO kinda person. That said, it sounds real enough that I'm willing to burn up some time seeing if it checks out.
  7. Anon Char Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    I'm sorry, but DOX or kindly Get The FUSK Out

    And Audio piece is kinda worthless without context.
  8. muldrake Member

  9. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Yeah. We know about Hanks' history, and about Mace-Kingsley Ranch. I want to know if this recording has ever been circulated before... and either verify it or shove it out the airlock before all the mother hens here go totally off the rails.

    It looks like "ronbot" on exscientologykids may have released it there (the account joined on Dec 12). Ex Scientology Kids :: View topic - Audio recording of Wally Hanks church approved child abuse

    It was posted here by "tippytoe", an account that's been around since April, but has only made 5 posts since then, none of them significant.

    It's also been repeated on OCMB with no attribution, by "PTS."

    The YouTube account used to release it (anonamace) is also brand-spanking-new (joined Dec 16).

    So, to avoid a giant circle-jerk of people referencing each other:

    Tippytoe -- source, pl0x.
  10. muldrake Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    It might be worth a shot to try to contact one of Hanks' victims to see if they recognize his voice. Jane Scott might recognize his voice, and Michael Pattinson might know how to contact her.
  11. XenuLovesU Member

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    Astra should also be able to verify the voice.
  12. DiaSciRev Member

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    I want this verified as much as everyone else does; how did this get recorded if it's true? How can this not be evidence against Wally Hanks? Who is "Marco"?

    But as much as dox will verify or lack of dox will disprove, this is far worse than any scarypasta I've ever seen or read. Regardless of the reality, the idea of being beaten viciously because of 'overts' - and at that young of an age - sickens me. Every blow made me shake.
  13. tippytoe Member

  14. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    I'm not knocking you here -- just trying to follow the trail of the release of this recording. Is this something you've released, or something you picked-up on OCMB/exscikids and brought here?

    As far as I can tell, this was released by ronbot on exscientologykids... and in other posts there he's mentioned a "Marco."

    I just want to get to the source... and then ask for the story behind it.
  15. tippytoe Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    I came across the video today on YouTube, posted by a user called "anonamace". I have watched many videos about Scientology from the old guard vids to now, but this one just chilled me to the bone. I thought it worthy of having some more attention of Anonymous so I posted the link to it here. I have no dox or anything to verify 100% authenticity, but it sure sounded authentic to me.
  16. tippytoe Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    No problem XenuLovesU. I am not the source of this video/recording. This was posted on YouTube by a user named "anonomace". After listening to it, I personally believe it to be authentic but I certainly can't prove that. Hopefully more proof will come out because of it being posted.
  17. reznik Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    from the clmbake thread. for background

  18. tazor Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    I posted about this Wally Hanks and The Mace-Kingsley Ranch months ago. They are no longer here in New Mexico. They now have a "family center" (whatever the fuck that means) in or near Clearwater. They do purifs there I believe. I don't think Hanks is involved with it now.
  19. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Did Hanks ever get busted for being a sex offender? I've searched the offender database in NM, with no hits on anyone with a last name of Hanks. Their DB only goes back to '96 though.

    Also ran a national search on Wallace or Wally Hanks through National Sex Offender Registry with no results (dunno how accurate that website is though).
  20. Masanon Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    How old is this recording?
  21. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Based on the YouTube vid notes, 20 years (1988).
  22. mrfyde Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    the Info box on the vid says:

    1988- the title says it all

    if the 1988 means the year this is 20 years old. How old is wally hanks ?

    and put Marco in his late 30's.

    Its kinda f'd up but in some schools in some states this is what a trip to the principal's office sounds like. There are some Public schools (as of at least a few years ago) that required parents to sing a "paddle waiver" for their kids to attend) this may not have been considered child abuse at the time (and place) it happened.
  23. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    True. The jr. high school I went to had corporal punishment (legally) as part of its discipline. There was more than one occasion that I went home black-and-blue... once for chewing gum and mouthing off to the teacher that caught me doing it.

    That said... legal or not... 20 years later or not... the barbarity still comes through. Especially the parts where (presumably) Hanks is telling the kid to look at the picture of LRH while he dishes out the punishment... and afterward needs to leave to get his "TR's in."

    If this recording can be verified, it's still a bombshell... for the same reasons Lisa McPherson, Paulette Cooper, and Operation Snow White are still bombshells for people that haven't been exposed to the information.

    Personally, I think this story mostly reflects on how fucked-up Wally Hanks was, but it also goes a long way toward showing how little oversight there is where Scientology "tech" is being applied.
  24. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    This is what bugs the fuck out of me when it comes to OCMB and other OG critic's sites:

    In less than three posts after this same recording was posted over there, it's already devolved into a discussion of Hari Kirshna and other bullshit without one single fucktard even asking where the recording came from...

    Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - Scientologist beating a 15yr. old

    Even 11 posts into it... nobody is asking about its provenance.

    Meh. I'm going to bed.
  25. LordCeptimos Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    for petes sake say POLO!!!!

    SAY POLO!!!


    anyway....


    dox was dropped. but how was this recording taken.. all that jazz...
    so... complete dox
    kthnxbai
  26. the_cloak Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    OK, if people actually were beaten by this guy, they need to come forward and TALK TO THE FBI! This is what brought down FLDS and got them /r/aided by the police and feds. All child abuse in scientology needs to be brought forward to the FBI. So far about the only people who have talked to the FBI are a handful of scilons and anonymous. If there are people who were at that ranch, they need to get up to the FBI and talk and they need to do it NOW. There has never been a better time to deliever this kind of punch to the cult. This could be the knockout blow, but only if people have the courage to speak up. Any evidence needs copied and then turned in. Even if it's just your experiences, go talk to them and give a sworn statement and be 100% truthful about everything. There has to be a mountain of testimony if the stories I keep hearing about this guy are true.
  27. T.W.C_Anon Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    What really pisses me off is why is this only showing up now? Is there any context as to who recorded it and why? Where did it come from?
    Google doesn't seem to want to cooperate...

    It looks like a vhs tape with a still image of someone in a mask dubbed over it.

    Edit: this probably won't stay up on youtube very long once the cult finds it, make sure there is backups.
  28. lothar Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Questions: why is there a snippet of VHS footage at the beach? Is this a nod to someone having the original? Did scilons videotape the beating?

    Can some audioninja take the .wav and do some FFT on it? What is that noise? It sounds like playback on a vinyl LP. Is it 60Hz motor noise? Scilons did have outdated technology like gramaphones, but the noise doesn't appear to be 45rpm or 33rpm.

    Seriously we need to know the static noise frequency.. Is it constant? Did it speed up by the end of the recording. It really sounds to me like vinyl, but if is it audio why wouldn't they use a tape recorder? And if it was audio from VHS maybe this is static from the VHS playback, but it doesn't sound like any static I've heard of. One possibility is tracking can introduce this kind of noise (maybe).
  29. lothar Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Attn: washanons

    Wally Hanks is listed as donating to Seattle ideal org which would have been early 2005.

    People Searches have a Wallace E Hanks age approx 60 living in Auburn, WA in 2002.
    But the 2005 King County Assesor page lists the current owner of that address as someone different.
    However at one time a an Auburn company SUCCESSTECH had the same address once associated with Hanks.


    This "seems" to fit as other addresses associated with this Wally are:
    Can we confirm Reserve, NM was the pedocamp?
    This name also comes up with the usual scilon indicators of Bankruptcy filings & County Tax Liens.


    From Wally's scientology page (from Nov 2002 - May 2003):
    http://web.archive.org/web/*hh_/scientologist.myhomepage.org/wallyhanks/myself.htm?wallyhanks_is_a_child_abuser (No, seriously that is the page saved in archive.org)
  30. lothar Member

  31. Top Grunge Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    ^^^
    Ew.

    Step 1: Can any OG/Ex verify that it is indeed his voice?

    if so, Step 2: Were any OGs/Ex's on that camp and witnessed this kind of stuff?

    then Step 3: Everyone from Step 1 and Step 2 GO TO THE FEDS!!! NOW!

    otherwise, nothing substantial here for authorities to move on imho.

    As far as the ocean at the beginning I think its either whoever made this being a very bad editor, or yea, some kind of hint as to what tape it is.
  32. lothar Member

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    lol.. the VHS ocean scene does seem like Seattle-ish. Let's start the total speculation someone got into Wally's loli VHS tapes and found this session.

    Of course if you had the video, why only release the audio. This whole "leak" makes no sense. What if someone in OSA is extorting money from Wally and pretending to be anon to spread it. LOL. He deserves it.
  33. tazor Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Yes, Mace-Kingsley Ranch was in Reserve, NM. It was moved there from CA. So that is the Wally Hanks we're talking about here.

    The reason this may not have been brought to light before is to protect the kid, Marco. Also anonamace said in comments that the Co$ has killed people for less then this. So he/she is obviously afraid of the co$. Okay, I know, tin foil and all that, but that's what the person said.
  34. NotBobMinton Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    Well if the pick above is of Astra Woodcraft, we could ask her.

    On a different note, weren't there several threads at the start of this about some pedophile scientologist in the Seattle area with some former victims contacting someone. The gist of it was that they were willing to speak out if something would be done about the guy. At least one of the victims no longer lived in the US.

    ETA: There were also come concerns expressed that the individual was still working with children. The identification was based off of pictures of the scilon from protests.
  35. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    If this is true, SPREAD IT LIKE WILDFIRE.
    Child abuse is always, in any context, damning evidence.
  36. An0nand0n Member

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    If convincing proof of this recordings authenticity comes to light I'll be playing the audio at the next big London raid.
  37. Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    The first two seconds of the tape are recorded from some television show. There is an NBC network logo in the bottom corner of the screen.
  38. blank Member

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    Is this on the Mace Kingsley ranch?
    [IMG]
  39. Vir Member

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    Doesn't look like her to me.
  40. Re: Disturbing Audio Recording of Scientologists Beating 15 year old

    2potmwi.jpg.gif
    (Wally & "Cassie")

    Is the man in the above photo, Wallace E Hanks
    DOB: 08/21/1947
    AGE: 61 Years Old ????


    [COLOR="Red"][ temporarily removed dox pending verification ][/COLOR]

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