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Draw Muhamed day megathread

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  1. Anonymous Member

    Draw Muhamed day megathread

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ok4njJXI8&playnext_from=TL&videos=HlgCiPgJ9CM&feature=sub]YouTube - Draw Muhammad Day (First Annual!)[/ame]


  2. CarterUSP Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I understand wanting to mess with radical fundamentalists, but the problem is that deliberately drawing Muhammad to get at them would offend non radicals too.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Draw Muhammed holding a sign saying "Y SO SRS?"
  4. Relyt Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Just drawing a stick figure with the word "Muhammad" underneath it offends them. They're against any kind of personification of Muhammad, as they believe to focus on what he looked like would take away from the message.

    Many Muslims, while offended by such a depiction, do not blow you up nor do they threaten to blow you up because of it. But some Muslims of course fall along the extremist angle and sometimes the only way to deal with them is to show them, in numbers, that you are not afraid of their threats and are willing to stand up for your freedom of expression. Backing down due to their threats = letting the terrorists win, imo.
  5. the anti Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    last night I was talking to a friend of mine (that happens to be islamic) and he was telling me the reason you are not aloud to draw him (and other figures) is because then it becomes idol worship.

    I totally understand that, but at the same time I feel a persons artistic expression should NEVER be restricted and should be able to do as you wish without threat
  6. CarterUSP Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I agree. You never see any depictions of animals or people in most islamic art (except in some iranian, transoxanian and ottoman stuff that I'm aware of). Not sure if it's in the Koran or if it's cultural not to draw anything.
    I wonder if the real radicals get so upset that someone somewhere has drawn a picture of a kitten because they think they might accidentally start worshipping it if they see it?
  7. RedOrbifold Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    why?

    That's a genuine question. What have we to fear?
    I understand the purpose of the "don't draw Muhammad" thing, but what right does anyone on the planet have to tell us what we can and can't draw?

    so long as your images aren't for the explicit purpose of hate speech (in this case, it's peaceful protest) I'll tolerate it.

    and I cordially apoligize to any Muslm users who are offended. If you are, feel free to look the other way.
  8. Anonymous Member

  9. Goosh Goosh Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    gtfo you fucking mora[COLOR="Black"]lfag[/COLOR] cunt

    you clearly have no concept of what anonymous is if you think we're some gay hugbox for ex-scilons and celebrities

    also

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  10. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    muhammed1.JPG
  11. BLiP Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    So free speech except when you deem it to be hate speech . . . or how about free speech except to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre . . .
  12. RedOrbifold Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I'd like to point out that ordinary speech and hate speech are quite different.

    general speech: this is muhammad. say hi.

    hate speech: muhammad eats dicks

    I am aware of the hypocrisy of what I just did, but it's for the purpose of illustrating the validity of a point.

    now, I'm not going to be throwing infractions around because someone posts muhammad with a bomb or what goosh goosh just posted, but I will say that I'd rather not have anybody get threatened with violence.
  13. grumpus Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    The freedom to express hate - if one feels hate - is part of the freedom to speak and 100% as important as expressions of love, pain, itchy feet, or whatever the hell else someone wants to say.

    Also, to speak of categories of speech as hate/not hate is a false dichotomy and it is full of arbitrariness. Who decides what "hate speech" is? Who can know the motives of someone speaking?
  14. WagTheWog Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Scroll down for mention of both Mohammed and $cientology
    Mohammed Image Archive
  15. Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Thanks for that link. This is the image I was looking for.
    scientology1.jpg
    A sketch of that would be very relevant to Anonymous interests. Scientology representing and degrading Mohammed. I have only just noticed that Mohammed is placed under Jesus (but further along in the chronology of time).
  16. Goosh Goosh Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    this thread needs moar muhammad fanart

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  17. Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    In case anyone needs more reasons to do this: TV | Aftonbladet

    This shows Swedish Artist Lars Vilks during a presentation, which among other subjects touched upon the intolerance of gays in Islam and Muslols, hence "Allah Ho Gaybar"

    Can you guess what happened during this presentation?
  18. Paroxetine Samurai Moderator

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    The problem comes down to what one deems "hateful". It doesn't necessarily mean an individual's view.

    These Islamic bunch view having a pic of Muhammad disrespectful. This disrespect in the western world is viewed by them as "hate" as they already got the notions in their head we want to kill them all. Granted that is a load of BS and not all Islamic people share that view. The only ones that do believe this BS are hardcore extremists that think that its "My way or the highway" interpretation of Islam.

    However, on the other side of the token, this society believes that we have rights and expressions of rights that can be done AS LONG AS they do not interfere with others rights.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I principally agree - question is if some comics in this thread not only transport criticism on freedom of speech issues in Islam. If you also hate islam or muslims for whatever reason, have the balls to state so and don't camouflage with calling "I want freedom of speech".

    In the country I live in it's forbidden to state "the f* jews invented shoa". according to you that should be allowed? or not, because it's not freedom of opinion / speech but a lie?

    a bit more buddhism would be good for you - have a more intergalactic and friendlier view on other live forms, assholes.
  20. adhocrat Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    This X >9000

    Free speech is free. The consequences are not.

    So you are anonymously calling them assholes for expressing themselves?

    See, free speech is free. You are free to express an opinion, and the rest of us are free to mock your opinion.

    Mock mock

    And free speech makes it much easier to identify the asswipes. They condemn themselves with their words and deeds.
  21. FreakE420 Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    scientology1-2.jpg
  22. WagTheWog Member

  23. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I agree with pretty much all of what's in this thread. It's true that prior restraint is an important issue (under the U.S. Constitution). Imminent danger/fighting words are other issues, although in practice they don't usually justify restraint of speech. Harassment also sometimes (ineffectually) comes up. In any case, hate speech is usually protected and certainly religions have no right to forbid anti-religious speech. I'd just add that aside from the right to draw Muhammad, there are some other things that are worth considering as well.

    I'm pro free speech and helped to write the press release condemning Russian censorship a while back. I noticed quite a few Anons took issue with the free speech position in that context--when it protected CoS. In that situation as in this one, I think that the best response to offensive speech is more speech, not less speech (and not violence). Free speech allows and really demands dialogue. Which is pretty much genius, I think.

    Everyone Draw Muhammad Day is an expression (and protection) of free speech. It's well suited to Anonymous. It doesn't go far enough, though. It doesn't really open up dialogue, nor is it meant to; it's intentionally incendiary. NOT illegal or "wrong"--I'm just suggesting that "because we can" or even "so we can," while important, is only one part of a thoughtful and proactive free speech position.

    As many have pointed out, extremist Muslims advocate jihad "because we can." I wish they wouldn't, though. So while I support the right to draw Muhammad as well as the right to express opinions about jihad, I hope also to see a more thoughtful and proactive engagement of this issue--I hope the two sides don't simply perpetuate polarization, with gauntlets being slapped down on both sides and people stalking off mad to make bombs. It seems to me that at its best free speech engages rather than merely smacking down other viewpoints.
  24. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Actually, my view is that this is a necessary step to open up dialogue. It's overdue. Protesting in the street is not "dialogue" per se, but hopefully it leads to it, and this is a protest.
  25. Lorelei Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    If I have time, I am going to draw Mohammed cuddling and being nice to adorable kittens, Mohammed enjoying an ice cream cone in the park on a lovely day, Mohammed dancin' and singin' in the rain, Mohammed helping a little old lady on a walker across a busy street, and Mohammed reading to some small children to promote literacy.

    Mohammed: A swell guy! Only 10% ghey but 100% groovy!
  26. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    That may well be--I don't disagree with that point.
  27. terryeo2 Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th


    <3 <3 <3
  28. manly man Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th


    This boggles my mind... >:{}
  29. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    now how about we change our avatars on the 20th to some nice drawings...
  30. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Can we change the anonymous avatar now? old avafag is old.
  31. FreakE420 Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    ^^^^^^THIS
  32. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    ^66^ This. I suggest something from the Olde Days of Golden.
  33. veravendetter Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    i'm fully aware of the background issues, just don't feel like i'm fighting for the right of others to depict mohammed. feels more like watching south park. if i did feel compelled to join the 'fight' on this issue my primary tactic would not be this thread
  34. Rockyj Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I don't think its about religion...ever heard of free speech?
  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

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  36. Kanonimus Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    ^^^ That is the most perfect argument I've seen :drool:
  37. Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    ROFLAV

    Someone poon Dawkins!!!

    I am critical of religion, I am active against damaging aspects of superstition.
  38. RedShieldwolf Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    I'll just leave this here...

    Jesus and Mo
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    Let's get the opinion of Pakistan's Shia leader.

    Read full article from ABNA.ir: Pakistani Shia Leader on martyrdom anniversary of Hazrat Fatima (as) “Everybody Draw Muhammad Day” biggest terrorism
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: Everybody Draw Muhammad Day: May 20th

    College students publish their opinions.

    The Daily Bruin: Cartoonist criticized for creating ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’ should have defended her right to First Amendment

    The Daily Bruin: Flawed interpretation of Koran results in overreactions to ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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