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Dutch COS buys building

Discussion in 'Media' started by TrevAnon, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. TrevAnon Member

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  2. Anonymous Member

  3. Dragononymous Member

    inb4 over 9000 seminars

    Let's take a short tour in the building!
  4. xenubarb Member

    So not everyone marched out to join Ron's Org, apparently.
  5. Dragononymous Member

    Parking spaces of nearby offices: €900,- per spot per year.

    I think they spend quite some money on it...
  6. moarxenu Member

    Thanks, anon. This bears watching.
  7. Dragononymous Member

    Some information out of 2010:

    Average of €150,- pm2 a year -> 4500m2 x €150 = €675.000 rent for one year.
    Add, let's say 20(?) car spaces. Adds another €18.000 = €697.ooo rent for one year.

    Let's suppose that they would have to pay 10 - 15 times the year prices to buy it.

    = A price between €6.970.000,- and €10.455.000,- (fair price, similair buildings in the same street had a value of something alittle over €13.000.000,-)

    Just a rough suggestion of the price paid, I suppose it's more

    :3
  8. Anonymous Member

    That sucks! I thought Scientology was doing poorly in Holland, because they only had one org in Amsterdam and nothing in Rotterdam, The Hague, Leiden, Tilburg....
    I guess they still have some cash, ha?
  9. Dragononymous Member

    They spend €50.000 a month on the current building(s, actually are two combined)

    But yeah, I though it was rather, well, controlled too
  10. Anonymous Member

    How many members have they got in Holland?
    They really don't appear to be too active in The Netherlands. But I might be wrong.
  11. Dragononymous Member

    minimum of 105 members a seminar a week would fix the costs...
  12. Anonymous Member

    You need to get Geert Wilders on Scientology's ass. Or maybe not.
  13. TrevAnon Member

    Now COS denies buying the building, Amsterdam local TV-station AT5 says

    http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/77223/scientology-we-hebben-niets-gekocht

    According to this page on religionnewsblog.com Dutch OSA Merel Remmerswaal has said COS will leave the building at the Nieuwezijds Voorburgwal near Amsterdam Central Station, which they rent, if another building is bought.

    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/26616/church-of-scientology-buys-office-complex-in-amsterdam

    LOL!

    Dutch foundation (Stichting) Nabesa mentioned in this page indeed has tax deductible status (ANBI). Dutch IRS provides a nice tool to look up ANBI-status here: http://www.belastingdienst.nl/rekenhulpen/giften/anbi_zoeken/ (type "nabesa" at "instelling")

    This means that Dutch citizens can, under certain conditions, deduct their payments to this foundation on their tax filings, resulting in paying less income tax: http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/prive/aangifte_doen_belasting_betalen_of_terugvragen/aangifte_inkomstenbelasting_2011/aftrekposten/giften/

    AFAIK "Stichting Nabesa" is rather new. Every now and then I have checked COS's status as ANBI, as well as front groups I knew.

    Other coverage:

    Dutch paper Telegraaf

    http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/11649717/__Schientology_koopt_nieuw_pand__.html

    Dutch paper Reformatorisch Dagblad:

    http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.refdag.nl/kerkplein/kerknieuws/scientology_koopt_pand_in_amsterdam_slotervaart_1_627435

    Dutch paper Algemeen Dagblad

    http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1041/Amsterdam/article/detail/3218482/2012/03/05/Scientology-Kerk-wil-naar-enorm-complex-Amsterdam.dhtml

    Kerknieuws.nl, a website with news from the world of religion:

    http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://www.kerknieuws.nl/nieuws.asp?oId=22395
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  14. TrevAnon Member

    Nah, not gonna happen. He is too busy negotiating new austerities and presenting a study saying the Netherlands should abandon the euro. :)
  15. Anonymous Member

    LOL. The Netherlands abandoning the euro. Though I remember being in Holland when the Greek bailout took place, and the people were mad that they had to pay for the Greeks.
  16. Dragononymous Member

    The nation became a greedy american sister...
    afaik, It's been going for a while now...
  17. Anonymous Member

    You're totally far from Americans. You have health care, and 30 days of holidays, and few homeless people. And weed for the price of 5 euros per gram. LOL
  18. Anonymous Member

    Either that or Anders Breivik, because the mindfuck is deep enough for some derp to start squeezing triggers like William Rex Fowler on a grand scale. Only a matter of time before some brainwashed fuck goes VietCong and all roads lead back to LRH and Miscavige.

    Maybe that's what it will take before the world's law enforcement wakes the fuck up.

    And if it does happen, everything written here and all the warnings will serve as evidence that we tried to do something, this is Why We Protest.

    And the record will show - they did nothing. They ignored all the warnings.
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  19. Dragononymous Member

    Sup Mr. Doomtastic
  20. genoramix Member

    why bother enter a cos building when there are so many nice coffee shops to spend time in...aud-hitting the bong:p
  21. Anonymous Member

    This new building won't have many people walking past it like the old did.
    What methods do they use in Amsterdam to meet potential new members?
  22. Anonymous Member

    Adult FriendFinder?
  23. Dragononymous Member

    Are they still doing that? yeehz...
  24. RightOn Member

    just because they bought a building that they will make their sheep members pay for doesn't mean they are successful in Holland. IMO
    All one has to do is look at all the other new orgs that lie empty and silent world wide.
    They have to constantly give the illusion of expansion so that members will be duped into staying and handing over buckets of clams
    Its KSW man!
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  25. Dragononymous Member

    More buildings & less anons ain't good though
  26. Anonymous Member

    the building is in a peculiar location though. Not easily accessible, not in the center. Also a weird modern building, not a cute Dutch 17th century one, like the one where their Org is located. It really looks more like an investment than something that would be used for public.
  27. Dragononymous Member

    They could turn it into an ideal one though
  28. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, we'll see about that. The Dutch are not big suckers and the population is quite educated, especially in Amsterdam. I mean the fact that so far they've only had one Org in the entire country really is a testament that they are not doing that great.
  29. Dragononymous Member

    or they're just lazy scilons
  30. Anonymous Member

    no such thing. There can only be downstat scilons.
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  31. Dragononymous Member

    (Possible) new Scilon Cult zone:
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    (Possible) New entrance:
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  32. Anonymous Member

    Is that a suburb of Amsterdam? I don't really know that area.
  33. Anonymous Member

    Looks like a random industrial park near Schipol.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Yup. Hence, I suspect that they just bought the place for it's industrial value. I doubt they'll ever have an org in there.
  35. Dragononymous Member

    We also thought they were becoming more inactive.
    We also thought no-one would believe their bs

    I also have my worries about the upcoming (or planned upcoming) sporting complex across the street...
  36. Anonymous Member

    It's just an observation of mine, having spent years in Holland - the Dutch do not part with money that easily. They can't put debt on their credit cards [unlike in the States], the banks are more responsible in this regard. Credit cards have strict limits and getting loans is not that easy for bullshit. So I hope that the Dutch will not fall for the scilon's act too much.
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  37. RolandRB Member

    That makes my heart sing. :)

    They are overreaching themselves with the Ideal Org purchases and refurbishments plus they need to pay the utility bills. They will be broke in two years.
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  38. Anonymous Member

    Do you mean 50,000 Euros per year?
  39. RolandRB Member

    See above message #7
  40. Dragononymous Member

    Total month, including utility bills and all
    never had it confirmed though, so don't take it for granted
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