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Dutch tax exemption revoked + bonus announcements

Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by Anonymous, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. TrevAnon Member

  2. TrevAnon Member

    Ok. So I cluttered up this thread with lots of posts about COS covers and them yes/no having ANBI status and yes/no having published financial data.

    I might as well do a post that puts it all together for future reference (July 1st each year :D ). My purpose is to clean things up. So here goes. Wall o’text alert….

    1. Dutch IRS links

    Convenient site to look up if any legal entity has anbi status
    https://www.belastingdienst.nl/rekenhulpen/anbi_zoeken/

    Obligations for Dutch ANBI’s (tax exempt organisations) https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/...rnetsite/financiele_verantwoording_publiceren

    Where to rat them out
    Send an e-mail to MeldpuntMisbruikANBI@belastingdienst.nl (MODS, this is a genuine e-mailaddress mentioned on the next page, I hope you’ll allow it, self-reported), reference:
    https://anbi.nl/meldpunt-meld-misbruik-door-algemeen-nut-beogende-instellingen-anbis/

    2. Summary of thread thus far

    – Anon telling about Stichting Nabesa fraud, which has been shot down by Dutch IRS
    – History of Amsterdam org trying to get anbi status through the courts and thus far failing.
    – Various posts about Amsterdam org buying / renting / whatever a new place ending up in some shitty thing
    – Various posts about Dutch Narconon yes/no having anbi status and yes/no complying with regulations
    – Posts about various other COS legal entities with yes/no anbi status and yes/no complying.
    – Other stuff, mostly unrelated

    The biggest cases are of course Stichting Nabesa (already gone), the Amsterdam org, and Narconon. The others are fun to poke with. :p

    3. Search for cos legal entities relevant here

    I went through several lists of COS legal entities in the Netherlands, available on the net.

    The Jeta Eggers page at https://jeta.home.xs4all.nl/scn/moc/dekmantels-scn-trc.html is the second google search result and tells about his list being partly shot down by some lawyer. The list itself is unavailable to me.

    There is a docslide page at http://docslide.net/documents/scientology-kerk-dekmantels-in-nederland.html . It looks the same as this scribd page: https://nl.scribd.com/doc/20213414/Scientology-Kerk-Dekmantels-in-Nederland. Both of them look (if memory serves) like the Jeta Eggers page. I don’t know who posted them, I just say thank you.

    I googled through the list to find any more legal entities which may of may not have anbi status, but couldn’t find any. (There are some BV’s in the list. A Dutch BV is (I guess) something like an “Ltd.”. Anyway, it’s a for profit thing, and those AFAIK don’t qualify for anbi status.)

    So I’m pretty sure now I have found all Dutch COS legal entities who are relatively current. The Jeta Eggers list was from somewhere in the nineties, so that’s no suprise.

    If anyone had additions or corrections, feel free to post them. :)

    4. List of websites for COS legal entities where we can check if they comply

    ALL SCIENO LINKS JUST A SINGLE WARNING

    Amsterdam Org (no ANBI status) http://www.scientology-kerk.nl/ (still mentioning they got tax exemption, not true after the last verdict) https://www.scientology.nl/ , http://www.scientology-amsterdam.org/

    Narconon http://narconon.nl/over-de-stichting/

    YFHR http://www.youthforhumanrights.nl/index.php/over-de-stichting

    Geen drugs wel leven http://geendrugs-welleven.blogspot.nl/

    Vecht terug http://www.vechtterug.nl/wie-zijn-wij/informatie-over-de-stichting/

    NCRM (CCHR) http://www.ncrm.nl/nederlands-comite-voor-de-rechten-van-de-mens-gegevens-van-de-stichting/

    Weg naar het geluk (Way to Happiness) http://www.dewegnaargeluk.nl/officiele-documenten/


    So now all convenient together.

    Again: additions most welcome.
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  3. TrevAnon Member

    I got an e-mail from them that all would be ok at the end of this day. (I thanked them and said "until next year" :D )

    No changes on the NCRM site AFAICS.

    De vecht terug website has been emptied? Maybe they are pulling the plug here? Wouldn't surprise me. We'll see.
  4. Narconon has now included a notice on their website that they will publish financial records before August 1st.
  5. NCRM still hasn't updated theirs.
  6. TrevAnon Member

    Enclosed a zip with a CSV with a financial overview of the COS entities in the Netherlands

    All data taken from the published financial records found at the above links. I wasn't exact to the last eurocent though.

    Also a PNG. Anbi status is tax exempt status in the Netherlands.

    Knipsel.PNG

    View attachment 264055

    Attached Files:

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  7. Does this mean they get punished too ?
  8. TrevAnon Member

    They changed it to August 15th.
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  9. TrevAnon Member

    They keep postponing.

    August 22nd

    May need another e-mail to the Dutch IRS.
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  10. Maybe the Dutch MP that was monotoring this isn't in the parlement anymore.
  11. Ik zal morgen even bellen
  12. Quentinanon Member

    How did NarCONon get ANBI status?
    Did they even investigate the program?
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  13. TrevAnon Member

    I think that is unknown. Dutch IRS doesn't report on individual tax payer cases.

    Besides, Dutch IRS is not the supervisor for health care organisations in the Netherlands as regards the quality of their program, that would be the "inspectie gezondheidszorg" https://www.igz.nl/ . Don't know if they cooperate in such a situation
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  14. I should not have made that joke. but anyway we have nobody in parlement right now to monitor.
  15. TrevAnon Member

    narconon still hasn't published financial records 2016. They are really late. Fired off an e-mailto the Dutch IRS
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  16. Excellent. I will wait a few weeks to see what happens and follow suit if they don't publish after all.
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  17. TrevAnon Member

    It would be good if you actually sent an e-mail to MeldpuntMisbruikANBI@belastingdienst.nl Be sure though to check if they published at http://narconon.nl/over-de-stichting/ before you do so. It would be nice if you reported about it here. (Don't know what you mean with your remark about parliament though. They have nothing to do with this.)
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  18. Quentinanon Member

    They are too busy playing "Ron's Birthday Game."
  19. The Wrong Guy Member

    Forced to open its books, one overseas Scientology rehab shows that business is grim

    By Tony Ortega, September 7, 2017

    Quote:

    One of the tough things about reporting on the Church of Scientology is that its tax-exempt status allows it to hide much of its financial information from the public. In some countries, however, Scientology and its front groups have to open their books. Among them is the Netherlands, where once again we’re getting a look at the annual financial report from the Narconon drug rehab center there. And just like last year, we’ve asked our resident money man, John P. Capitalist, to go over the numbers.

    <snipped to summary>

    The 2016 numbers appear to be thrown together by someone less skilled than the preparer of the 2015 numbers. A lot of stuff is being shuffled around without explanation in footnotes, which you’d hope to see on internal numbers, and you’d certainly expect to see on numbers filed with the government or otherwise published. That leaves me very suspicious about the quality of the financial information here.

    The financials clearly reek of having the numbers managed. They can’t lie about program revenue or donations as that would bring the wrath of the government down on them. But they are being pretty blatant about doing whatever they can to manage costs in line with plummeting revenue, including padding donations and getting rid of all sorts of expenses – I don’t know whether they were able to cut the €45,019 by simply deferring paying for anything (we should have seen a big jump in accounts payable if this was the case), whether they’ve transferred those costs to another Scientology organization, or whether they’re simply lying and taking a calculated risk that they won’t get audited.

    The bottom line: this is another disastrous year. NN NL, by narrowing the loss and by turning royalty expenses into debt to be paid later and by magically coming up with double the donations they took in last year, managed to remain financially viable for another year. However, they’re basically now down to gnawing off and eating their own fingers to stay alive.

    More at https://tonyortega.org/2017/09/07/f...cientology-rehab-shows-that-business-is-grim/
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  20. Quentinanon Member

    In scientology, the word "donations" is a euphemism for corporate revenue.
  21. TrevAnon Member

    just putting this here

    Attached Files:

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  22. TrevAnon Member

    Yay! They did. A search at the anbi zoeken tool from the Dutch IRS now shows their anbi-status was revoked as of Jan 1st 2013. The decision was made on July 6th.

    Now this foundation didn't have any financial meaning so it doesn't come as a surprise.
  23. Quentinanon Member

    And scientology is all about financial meaning.
  24. The Wrong Guy Member

    Miscavige going for three Ideal openings in a row

    By Tony Ortega, October 24, 2017

    Quote:

    After opening the new Ideal Orgs in Dublin and Birmingham, England the last two Saturdays, Scientology leader David Miscavige will open yet another new church this weekend in Amsterdam. Three weekends in a row is a new record. Surely the whales will be pleased.

    [IMG]

    Source: https://tonyortega.org/2017/10/24/t...-of-scientology-and-the-pitfalls-of-suing-it/
  25. Quentinanon Member

    Scientology promotional materials are notoriously ugly but the digital imagery makes it ridiculous.
  26. ThomsAnon Member

    So who are meeting up in Amsterdam this weekend??
  27. Tepee Member

    Last Amsterdam meeting in November 2016 we had <MOD EDIT: Names removed> and several more, they should all come also now!
  28. ThomsAnon Member

    Allright!! LOL Times are coming!!
  29. Tepee Member

    Why is WWP censoring my posting?
    I did not write anything in the above posting that was incorrect, so
    why is WWP playing censor police???
  30. Because you're doxing you asshole.
  31. White Tara Global Moderator

    I would ask you to look in your inbox, for the message I sent you Tepee. No harm, no foul.
  32. The Wrong Guy Member

    In Amsterdam, Miscavige goes for the trifecta

    By Tony Ortega, October 28, 2017

    Quote:

    Festivities are underway today in Amsterdam, where David Miscavige will open his third Scientology “Ideal Org” in as many weeks after ceremonies in Dublin and Birmingham, England. Keep an eye on the comments section for reports to come in today from our correspondents on the scene.

    https://tonyortega.org/2017/10/28/r...ers-cop-who-sniffed-out-scientologys-secrets/
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  33. The Wrong Guy Member

    David Miscavige goes Dutch

    By Tony Ortega, October 29, 2017

    Quote:

    You know the routine. Tight security. Lavish renovation of a big building. (And this one was really big.) Some music. Some local shills as speakers, and then C.O.B. himself, David Miscavige, throws out a few Dan Sherman-penned platitudes about the local traditions and then it’s release the ribbon time. Man, these are becoming so rote — and three in three weeks!

    Let’s take a look at a few of the official church photos from yesterday’s “Ideal Org” grand opening in Amsterdam.

    Continued at https://tonyortega.org/2017/10/29/sunday/
  34. Lickit10Times Member

    Please be aware of revealing/doxing of people from our community. We don't like it and it can get yourself blocked.
  35. The Wrong Guy Member

    Amsterdam broadcaster not welcome at Scientology church opening after critical report

    By Janene Pieters, NL Times, October 31, 2017

    Quote:

    The new church of Scientology on Wibaustraat in Amsterdam informed local broadcaster AT5 that it was not welcome at the Scientology church following a report about local residents feeling intimidated by the church. The AT5 story appeared last week, which Scientology criticized as being "super over exaggerated," according to the broadcaster.

    On Friday the broadcaster published an article in which Amsterdam residents said that they had concerns about the church's presences, which moved to a new space in the Dutch capital on Saturday. Residents complained about the quantity of security guards around the church.

    "It is all a mystery with men in black around the building", one resident said.

    According to the broadcaster, AT5 sent repeated requests to attend the church opening or visit the church, but they were denied. "As you undoubtedly saw, AT5 wrote a super-over exaggerated piece on the website prior to our opening, for this reason we do not see you coming on Monday", a spokesperson for the Scientology Church said in an email to the broadcaster.

    On Sunday, the church did send their own photos of the event to AT5. "Should you put up a better piece based on this, we can always see if we can do an interview and tour", the attached note read, according to AT5.

    Source: https://nltimes.nl/2017/10/31/amste...me-scientology-church-opening-critical-report

    Here's the broadcaster's original report, in Dutch. The title translates to AT5 only welcome after a better piece about us.

    http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/174741/scientology-kerk-at5-alleen-welkom-na-beter-stuk-over-ons

    Here are all of the articles about the cult that have been published by NLTimes.nl, in English:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=scientology site:nltimes.nl

    Here are more reports about the cult from AT5 (all in Dutch):

    https://www.google.com/search?q=scientology site:at5.nl
  36. pedrofcuk Member

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  37. It's already been dealt with by a Moderator you asshole and the poster WAS NOT BLOCKED.
    You've been here all of ten minutes.

    STFU.
  38. TrevAnon Member

    Dutch Way to Happiness foundation published 2017 financial data. See attachment (Dutch)

    Board themselves donating the larger part of income from personal income or whatever.

    Money was spent on advertising at local tv-stations and such.

    When you think about it: just like the super bowl. Only local advertising, not on national tv - for which they don't have enough money (unlike COS in the US, which DOES have enough).

    Attached Files:

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  39. TrevAnon Member

    Dutch NCRM (CCHR) published its balance sheet.

    They haven't published a profit and loss, but have time to do so until July 1 2018.

    Attached Files:

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