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Eastern European Politicians & Scientology Rumours

Discussion in 'Media' started by mnql1, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. mnql1 Member

    Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Ukraine's 2010 presidential election will be held on Sunday, January. 17. If no candidate wins more than 50 per cent, a second round will take place on Sunday, February 7. Expectations are that incumbent President Viktor Yushchenko (Our Ukraine Party) will not be reelected and that the leading candidates are current Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko (BYuT - Bloc of Yulia Tymoshenko) and Opposition Leader Viktor Yanukovych (Party of the Regions).

    Arseniy Yatsenyuk, leader of the Front for Change, a former Foreign Minister of Ukraine and former chairman of the parliament, is a rising star and some were even saying that he might become the next President, but his popularity in polls has declined lately. Yatsenyuk could, however, become a kingmaker in a second round by supporting Tymoshenko or Yanukovych.

    One aspect of the presidential campaign which has not been reported in the West is that, since May 2009, rumors have been spreading on Russian and Ukrainian websites and media that Arseniy Yatsenyuk is a Scientologist and that joining Scientology boosted his career in banking and carried him to success in politics. The following paragraph of an article dated Jan. 15, 2010 summarizes what has been repeated in many other articles:

    As early as June 2009, articles can be found saying:

    No information connecting Yatsenyuk to Scientology seems to exist in other languages than Ukrainian and Russian. One can't help wondering if this is true or whether it is just slander to damage a political career. During the 2004 presidential campaign, someone went so far as to poison Viktor Yushchenko with dioxin.

    MOD EDIT: I have altered the thread title, as it seems this reflects more than just Ukrainian leaders sadly. :(
  2. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    OT VI and SO ? Meeting Spanky on a regular basis ? Seems unlikely, IMHO.
  3. mnql1 Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    It does sound like exaggeration, but this is the rumor that is being spread on quite a lot of websites.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    someone wants chanology to be his PA
  5. mnql1 Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    The OP is simply a report on something that can be observed.
  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    hey, I was talking about some Russian politicians, not you! :)
  7. mnql1 Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Thank you for the clarification. Indeed, Russian intererence in Ukrainian politics is far from inconceivable. It's interesting that Scientology should crop up in the context of a Ukrainian presidential campaign.
  8. FUCK Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Interesting...
  9. Smurf Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Very interesting..

    Discovery Channel just aired a documentary of the 2004 elections where massive voter fraud & corruption marred the elections between Vladimir Putin's puppet Yanukovych and the the people's candidate who was poisoned.

    Alot of comparisons can be drawn between the Ukrainian people protesting a repressive regime and Anonymous protesting Scientology... and both love the flags..

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7K7s4ooqtY&feature=fvw"]YouTube- The Orange Revolution - Ukraine[/nomedia]
  10. Consensus Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Look into it, keep an eye on it, but don't assume anything. Dox or GTFO.

    Wasn't their a flap a year ago when some aussie political group tried to send out fake e-mails tying an opposition candidate to the CoS? People know associations with scientology are political suicide in this climate, and they're looking to exploit it. Don't be PAd.
  11. Boris Korczak Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Арсеній Петрович Яценюк,
    Ви, звичайно, не вітати як сусід Польщі. Ви, що належать до культу перетворює на насмішку Ви, як політик.

    Arseniy Yatsenyuk.
    You are certainly not welcome as a neighbor of Poland. Your belonging to the cult makes a mockery of you being a politician.

    Arsenij Jaceniuk.
    Nikt w Polsce nie życzy sobie ciebie jako sąsiada. Twoja przynależność do kultu czyni cię kiepskim dowcipem a nie politykiem.
    BK
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  12. Herro Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Quit speaking on behalf of all of Poland you moonbat bigot. Don't you have some puppy poisoners to be tracking down? Or at least some borscht to slurp down?
  13. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    ШТФУ
  14. Robocat Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    BK,

    Belated Holiday gift from your friend. :)

    Keep up the good work!


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  15. MeganonOT8 Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    I am sure he's speaking on behalf of himself and himself only.

    Estoy seguro que si una gran porcion de latinos supiera acerca de Scientologia, no estaria en favor de ella. y solomente por que decidi escribir en español no neccesariamente inmplica que quiero representar a toda mi nacion.

    Thank you.
  16. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    If the ties are confirmed let the shit fly!
    The Ukes are not stupid, given the true infos will figure it out, but the need for good dox etc. is essential.
    It is well documented that CoS has its eye on any country not fully aware of its (cults) intentions, I'd hate to see another totalitarian POS (like a scamologist) get any respect there, they have had enough of that sort of crap.
    Sharpening 'poons.
  17. Herro Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    What if the guy would be a great leader for the country?
  18. ScudMuffin Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Depends on your idea of great leader. Mao?
  19. genoramix Member

    Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    A great leader for Ukraine or Russia is more than unlikely. Too many Putin's puppets around, too much corruption, so imho in any case Ukraine(to my great disappointment, i love the country) will be either ruled by Russia, or let's suppose for one second of insanity that a scientologist is elected, Russia(by this i mean Putin and his crowd) are way more powerful than CoS.

    tl;DR : a hidden agenda is pretty much inevitable for Ukraine's next president, wether he/she wants it or not.
  20. Re: Ukraine Presidential Candidate Rumored to be OT6

    Watch out they are in your local Mc Ronalds ! if onley they actually followed those rules in the vid*sigh*

  21. Nancy Beazley Member

    DOX or GTFO.

    Seriously.
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  22. DeathHamster Member

    I see that someone has dropped this onto his Wikipedia page.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseniy_Yatsenyuk

    It's completely inadequate for a Bio of Living Persons article, and uncited shit just doesn't help.
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  23. DeathHamster Member

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  24. Quentinanon Member

    Life is precious. Please do not waste it on rumour.
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  25. DeathHamster Member

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  26. Dallas Blog: Soros Hires Scientologist to Conquer Ukraine
    http://www.dallasblog.com/201402181...s-hires-scientologist-to-conquer-ukraine.html

    Excerpt:
  27. Nancy Beazley Member

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  28. DeathHamster Member

    Edits from a French IP address, not that that means anything.

    Posting from blogger claiming that the removal was a Soros conspiracy in 3.. 2.. 1..
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  29. The Aval Bank appears to be owned by a group of Austrian banks and while Austria != Germany, the claims of Scientology involvement in the bank seem spurious.
  30. The Wrong Guy Member

    Is Ukraine’s proposed new prime minister a Scientologist? Says his niece: ‘That’s crap’

    By Tony Ortega

    Excerpt:

    Last night, we reached Alina Steel’s daughter, Ulyana Biloskurska, 26, who assured us that the rumors about the family’s Scientology involvement were completely untrue.

    “That’s crap,” she said. “We don’t even know what Scientology is.”

    Ulyana, who lives in California, said she had heard the allegation about her mother and uncle, and assured us that neither of them have any involvement in Scientology.

    “We read about the rumor, but there’s no truth to it,” she says. “The only thing I know about Scientology is that Tom Cruise is in it.”

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/02/27/is...er-a-scientologist-says-his-niece-thats-crap/
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  31. Ogsonofgroo Member

    Thank you TWG! I find it interesting that its possible to slander somebody by calling them a Scilontologist.....

    :D
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  32. This is again coming up on ESMB, with a response.

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...st-to-Conquer-Ukraine&p=915456#post915456

  33. The Wrong Guy Member

    By the way, yesterday this article in The Slovak Spectator turned up in my news searching, and I didn't post after being unable to find the complete article anywhere online:

    Fico accuses Kiska of Scientology ties; Kiska submits criminal complaint

    18 Mar 2014 Flash News

    PRIME MINISTER and presidential candidate Robert Fico continues to insist that his main opponent, philanthropist and businessman Andrej Kiska, has ties to Scientology.

    The rest of this article is premium content and is only accessible with a PIANO account.

    http://spectator.sme.sk/articles/view/53349/10/fico_accuses_kiska_of_scientology_ties.html
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  34. Anonymous Member

    I haz PIANO account:

    Fico accuses Kiska of Scientology ties; Kiska submits criminal complaint

    18 Mar 2014 Flash News

    PRIME MINISTER and presidential candidate Robert Fico continues to insist that his main opponent, philanthropist and businessman Andrej Kiska, has ties to Scientology.

    “Mr Kiska can submit a criminal complaint, I will not have a problem refuting it,” Fico told the press on March 18, as quoted by the TASR newswire. He added that Kiska lied to Slovakia in a live broadcast, and that “he knows people from this sect, meets with them and collaborates with them”.

    Meanwhile, Kiska submitted a criminal complaint on March 18 over libel and false witness, especially regarding statements Fico made in the debates before the first round of the elections, the SITA newswire wrote.

    Fico told the press that the church of Scientology is not registered in Slovakia. According to him, the church has ambitions to attain power, and that abroad it “is often considered a security risk, and even in Slovakia several firms have already lost their security clearances because of contacts with this sect”.

    “When I said that Mr Kiska is close to the sect of Scientologists, I expected some statement; but he refuted everything,” Fico said, as quoted by TASR.

    Kiska responded that Fico has based his politics on offending people, and still continues to rely on insults as he is afraid of losing the election, as reported by the Sme.sk website.

    He also stressed that the president needs to help resolve disputes between political parties. Kiska added that he believes Fico does not want the elections to be decided over whether or not he was ever in the flat on Vazovova Street, referring to the flat in the infamous Gorilla case where politicians met secretly with prominent businessmen.

    The flat was mentioned in the Gorilla file, which was leaked to the internet and the media in December 2011, and which allegedly contains transcripts of recordings detailing Penta financial group’s influence on high-level politicians in the years 2005-06.

    Kiska denied being a scientologist, and said that “the security risk for our country is its PM”, as reported by Sme.sk

    Fico however says there is evidence that Kiska put out a book through a publisher owned by Ladislav Pavlík, who also owns a management school named after L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the scientologist church in the US.

    Pavlík also wrote a prologue to the book, according to Fico. Moreover, Kiska allegedly attended several events organised by Pavlík, as reported by TASR.

    Fico did not answer questions about whether or not he thinks Kiska is a scientologist. Neither did he answer a question on whether it is a risk for the state when its prime minister visits a conspirators’ flat [referring, again, to the flat in the Gorilla case – ed. note], Sme.sk wrote.

    Fico only stressed that his Smer party has nothing to do with the controversial anti-Kiska campaign pamphlets that appeared shortly before the first round of the presidential election.
    Source: TASR, SITA, Sme.sk

    Compiled by Radka Minarechová from press reports

    The Slovak Spectator cannot vouch for the accuracy of the information presented in its Flash News postings.
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  35. I'm not sure what this has to do with the Ukraine? Or has this become a general presidential / prime minister / premier candidate try to discredit their opponent by saying he is a Scientologist thread?

    New thread?
  36. DeathHamster Member

    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/wise/wise_2001_directory.html
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  37. Information cross-posted to new ESMB thread:

    Is Slovak Prime Minister and Presidential candidate Andrej Kiska tied to Scientology?

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...al-candidate-Andrej-Kiska-tied-to-Scientology
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  38. DeathHamster Member

    I think if he was an OT 6, there'd be something more substantial than possible dealings with a publisher in another country. He'd be leaned on to push Narconon, Applied Scholastics, Second Chance, etc.
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