ESMB has established communication with Independent Scientology Milestone Two. Could WWP be next?

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  1. ESMB has established communication with Independent Scientology Milestone Two. Could WWP be next?

    Milestone Two: Distrust and revolt

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    Distrust and revolt

    Posted by Lana M.

    May 16, 2016

    By Lana M


    Wouldn’t it be great if the general culture expected that children and teens contribute to their families as much as their families contribute to them?

    And wouldn’t it be a different world if this was applied more generally on the 3rd dynamic?

    Heck — even looking at the revolts that are occurring inside and outside of the Church of Scientology shows that there are inequities in terms of contribution…

    But ESMB will probably disagree with me (LOL).

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  2. IDK if you have all 3 corners of ARC there, OP.

    Unless I missed something.
  3. anon8109 Member

    Kind of silly. WWP doesn't "establish communication".

    Anyone can just post here, there's nothing to it.
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  4. DeathHamster Member

    "Establish communications"?

    So they haven't been listening to what we've been saying.
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  5. Well, there is no evidence of it so far.
  6. fishypants Moderator

    Wouldn't really expect them to. The hugbox is much more likely to be sympathetic to their point of view than wwp. Ex's still drinking the Hubbard koolaid can expect to have their beliefs robustly challenged here (eg on the existence of the 'tech'), it's no surprise that they avoid that.

    Credit to Hobson for (semi-)engaging.
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  7. Paul Adams, Dulloldfart on ESMB, posted the same comment on ESMB and on Milestone Two. Milestone Two approved and posted the comment:

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    Paul Adams says:

    May 18, 2016 at 4:42 am

    I don’t expect to comment much here.:). This is a copy of what I posted today on ESMB,

    I like Lana. I thought her comments this time were quite sensible. Other cultures, other times, all members of a family contribute their time and effort to its survival except those who are too sick, who get cared for as feasible.

    Scatjappers’ comments were mostly sensible too.

    It seems that ESMB (generality) and M2 (generality) have this feud going, and nothing that one says is acceptable to the other. Most of the exes here thought the same way (as M2) about Hubbard and Scn once. I did.

    Anyway, don’t let me interfere with everyone’s fun.


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  8. RightOn Member

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  9. Quentinanon Member

    And Lana spews Hubbardian babble with a typical scientolunatic backhanded insult.
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  10. ArnieLerma Member

    I no longer think with hub-spew...
    Every time I hear "But $cientology WORKS" I think yeah, hypnosis WORKS!
    Every time I hear "What is true for you is true for you" < as said by Hubbard;
    I am reminded of the psychologist/hypnotist named George Estabrooks, who working for OSS(1) in 1943, said
    "Anything said to a hypnotized subject is true for them"

    Cliff Notes for Deprogramming a Scientologist


    (1) OSS Office of Strategic Services later turned into CIA/DIA
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  11. Whats the natter with you, Lana M.?
    '' Are you afraid of finding out the truth about L. Ron Hubbard?''

    C'mon now, answer the auditing question, Lana M.:
    ''Are you afraid of finding out the truth about L. Ron Hubbard?''

    LRH purchased a fake doctorate from degree mill Sequoia University.
    Lana M. bought mind-numbing courses from LRH @ What's A Natter U.

    Google: L. Ron Hubbard: The Truth
    Shhhhhh, Lana........Be careful.........
    Don't let the facts about this abusive conman cloud your judgment......

    The evidence of Hubbard's abuses and incompetence is overwhelming including child abuse by the monster himself.
    Google: L. Ron Hubbard abuses 4 year old Derek Greene on the Apollo

    Surely you're not afraid of Google, Lana M.? Read it all, it all 'natters' a great deal to those still being abused.

    Google: L. Ron Hubbard / Abuses in Scientology
    Over 220,000 results, that's one fuck-ton of 'Natter"

    Lana is utterly incapable of criticizing the pathological liar, fraud and child abusing monster L. Ron Hubbard. The coward LRH created the cowardly Natter defense for criticism and sadly, Lana M. fell for it.

    Face the truth, Lana M., wake up, move on and stop trying to promote this horrendous scam as an 'Independent' scammer. Thanks. I wish all exes well in their recovery, many have, Lana M.'s recovery has not even started.
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  12. Malory Member

    Wouldn't it be great if Lana just fucked off?

    Let kids and teens have a bit of fun before they have to adult. If you're going to have children then it's your damned job to take care of them you lazy cunt.
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  13. Random guy Member

    Not necessarily. Said hugbox have a few people who have burned themselves badly on the cult, and aren't afraid to let out a bit of bilge when situation calls for it.
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  14. RightOn Member

    exactly this
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  15. amaX Member

    people don't so much establish communication with us as they come slumming here in this dump.

    i know this is true, but i'm gonna pray to xenu that freezoners milestone deux aliens stay in the teegeeack section of earth.

    do not want.
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  16. Quentinanon Member

    You mean like this?

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  17. ^I've got to learn how to act out a mandatory success story successfully (failing miserably so far)............

    Wow, I had no idea that I was capable of such phony enthusiasm on a grand scale. Wow, Thanks, Ron Yaaaaaayyyyyy, Yaaaaaaaayyyyy, Ron Yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy.............
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  18. JohnnyRUClear Member

    They literally set you on fire.
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  19. fishypants Moderator

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  20. Quentinanon Member

    And this might be another more blatant example:

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  21. I believe many underestimate ESMB and its co called "hugbox".
    People like Lana will always be overwhelmed with undeniable facts about LRH
    Lana can cling to 'the tech' all she likes.
    A time eventually comes that will have her not just peer through a crack in the door, but kick the fucker open and open up the real world outside
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  22. ESMB has "a strict moderation policy against people who disagree with them"

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    Jonathon Barbera (@JonathonBarbera) says:
    May 19, 2016 at 7:27 am


    Paul Adams (“Dulloldfart”) was the practical course supervisor when I studied at ITO. I had to demonstrate to him how to correctly use a damp rag to clean the dust from a table. He also supervised me on the STCC. At some point he became disaffected with Scientology and appears to now be a regular on ESMB.

    Paul Foster (“scatjappers”) is a regular on the Milestone Two blog. I know nothing more about him. He said he did the OEC at ITO.

    I only visited ESMB recently because of Lana’s comment. I never registered with their forum because I’m not an ex-Scientologist plus they have a strict moderation policy against people who disagree with them. (The only thing worse than arguing in public about Scientology is not being permitted to respond or having that response edited by someone else.)

    — Jonathon

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  23. Jonathon Barbera is testimony of how the application of scientology makes you a fucking loon
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  24. Malory Member

    No, I think it has an important role to play. Different personalities fit in different places but that doesn't mean one site or forum is better than another.
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  25. fishypants Moderator

    Yeah, I agree, it fills an important niche.
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  26. TrevAnon Member

    Should they come posting in the dome, then we'll have nice new toys! :)
  27. Quentinanon Member

    I think it has value as a forum for a transition out of and away from scientology. I like to see people graduate from esmb back to the real world.
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  28. NO

  29. The fundamental problem of Lana's shit is, its straight from 'Living with Children'in hubturds 'A New Slant on Life'.. Which in essence lays out how a 'big being' is inside every child and should be afforded the same considerations as adults.

    Emphasis mine

    Lrh was and is the 'only way out'!!!!

    OMG, he really knew how to be a Dad!!

    He even wrote a Sec Chec for kids!

    This showed up at Tony O's blogs a day or so ago. More testimony how scientology indoctrinates child abuse!

    Tony Ortega wrote:

    "Let that sink in for a moment. Hubbard is saying that a seven-year-old who doesn’t enjoy a grown man kissing her passionately has something wrong with her mentally."[/quote]
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