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FIFA bans hijab

Discussion in 'News And Current Events' started by Anonymous, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. anonymous612 Member

    Got an English word for you to learn.

    rel·e·vance
    noun \ˈre-lə-vən(t)s\

    Definition of RELEVANCE
    1. relation to the matter at hand : practical and especially social applicability : pertinence <giving relevance to college courses>

    2. the ability (as of an information retrieval system) to retrieve material that satisfies the needs of the user

    Examples of RELEVANCE
    1. <I appreciate that you did the dishes tonight, but that has no relevance to my enforcement of the punishment you got earlier this week.>
    2. <Be less of a faggot and use a video that has some relevance to the discussion next time.>
    First Known Use of RELEVANCE
    1733

    Related to RELEVANCE

    Synonyms: applicability, bearing, connection, materiality, pertinence, relevancy
    Antonyms: extraneousness, inapplicability, irrelevance, irrelevancy
  2. حمید Member

    irrelevant!
    you even did not show to have given it a try of having watched the video to the end.
  3. anonymous612 Member

    You see this? This is my don't give a fuck face. It's pointed in the general direction of your video.
  4. حمید Member

    So you did understand the posts, but do find them hard not to have easily been expressed, using honey and fuck.
  5. Anonymous Member

    You have a problem with the word honey? I know you're irrationally annoyed by the word fuck (kind of why I used it) but honey? Really?

    How about honeyfuck? I can use honeyfuck if that would make you feel better.
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  6. حمید Member

    you can use whatever you appropriately choose to use. Honey is my favorit and I know how appropriate it is.
  7. Anonymous Member

    In that case I'll go with fuck. Because I can.
  8. حمید Member

    Good for you. I certainly hope you dont suffer by it misused.
  9. Anonymous Member

    I work on a campus with a large number of muslim students. It has impressed me how many of the girls are somewhat bowlegged or seem to have issues with their knees and ankles. Rickets anybody?
  10. WhiteNight Member

    cba reading the thread, but here's my 2 pence:
    The west complains about middle eastern / Islamic culture etc changing their culture and ways of life.
    What gives FIFA, a western institution, the right to tell Muslim women what parts of their religion / culture they're allowed to keep on on the pitch? I don't see how a hajib gets in the way of the game.
    What would happen if a FIFA official told one of our players that he couldn't wear a cross for some vague reason?
  11. Anonymous Member

    FIFA is not telling Iran what parts of culture to keep. They are just telling them that as a matter of safety [overheating, blocked view of the ball], they cannot use giant pieces of cloth on their heads and necks. Simple as that.
    By the way - this morning I read an article that a point guard of the Israeli female basketball team was not allowed to wear a T-shirt underneath her basketball tank top uniform. The girl is religious and wants to keep her modesty. Basketball association told her that the rules of the game forbid that. So it's not like Muslims are the only ones that are asked to follow the sporting rules.
  12. xenubarb Member

    This made me think of something. The other day a petition came my way, demanding that Red Bull (popular energy drink here) withdraw from the Formula One races in Bahrain. Since Bahrain has been giving aid to totalitarian regimes trying to crush the spirit of the people, we who signed do not feel it appropriate to support their expensive, showy auto race.

    So while I agree with you that sport, on one level, should be free of political or religious taint, countries that indulge in oppression should be denied the perks of living in civilized society, F1 races and airplane races being part of that.
  13. xenubarb Member

    You play in a hijab and get back to us, won't you?
  14. حمید Member

    I do not know where you are and what lies to you west. But I do know if there are complains about what which are not in favor to the will of the citizens, citizens will show the will if they are allowed of course, by mass protests. So judging on the protests taking place, you can not mean Eroupe, in this case as west, firstly there are no such protests secondly it is very popular to adopt life styles. I supose where you are is east or far east. In that case I have seen some minor dissatisfaction but not to the extends of mass protests.

    I think in this case you are trying to show it as if a western institution which interferes with religion showing your concern just naming muslim girls as if every muslim girls is aproving your concern. If you read the posts carefully, you will find more on how hajib gets in the way of the games to be as unfair games.

    They do assure you are not having one and if they do not, It is probably being neglected by its rare practice which is in any way wrong and might be lack of compliance with routine controls.
  15. حمید Member

    What you have chosen to discuss in this thread does certainly not help Bahrain and will rather harm even more. As you see, by reading the posts, there are some having dificulity to understand what is this about and get yet more confused by delusions of wrong associations. I am sure if you craete a new thread based on the problem there are many who would participate in contributing to the matter.
  16. Anonymous Member

    People with penis are > people with vagina?
  17. iraniam Member

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    by Dave Zirin
    08-Jun-2011

    Soccer is the great global game: the closest thing we have to a connective cultural tissue that binds our species across national and cultural borders. But only in a world so upside down could “the Beautiful Game” be run by an organization as corrupt as FIFA and by a man as rotten to the core as FIFA President Sepp Blatter. Only Sepp Blatter, whose reputation for degeneracy approaches legend, would hire a war criminal like Henry Kissinger to head "a committee of wise persons" aimed at “rooting out corruption” in his organization. And only these two twinning avatars of amorality would use "the Beautiful Game" as an instrument of Islamophobia.
    On Sunday, moments before Iran’s women’s team was due to take to the pitch and play in an Olympic qualifier against Jordan, the team was disqualified for wearing their traditional full-body tracksuits and hijabs. Jordan was granted a 3-0-forfeit victory, crushing the lauded Iranian team’s chances to go to the 2012 London Games.
    As the Iranian players and officials tearfully objected, they were told that they had violated FIFA rules that state, "Players and officials shall not display political, religious, commercial or personal messages or slogans in any language or form on their playing or team kits." The team was also informed that since 2007 FIFA has held the view that wearing a hijab while playing “could cause choking injuries.”
    There are two problems with this argument. The first is that it’s asinine. “Hijab soccer choking deaths” doesn’t exactly send the Google search engine a-humming. But far more problematic is that the team had already received assurances from FIFA that the uniforms were in compliance. They had even had played preliminary rounds without a blip from Blatter.
    Iranian women’s soccer director Farideh Shojaei told Reuters TV in an interview, “We made the required corrections and played a match afterwards. We played the next round and were not prevented from doing so, and they didn’t find anything wrong. That meant that there are no obstacles in our path, and that we could participate in the Olympics.... This [uniform] is neither religious, nor political, nor will it lead to harm a player…. and Mr. Sepp Blatter accepted this."
    So what is really going on here? First of all, we should dismiss any of FIFA's concerns about the welfare of the women involved. Blatter is an unreconstructed sexist and without resistance, women's soccer would look something like the Lingerie Football League. The man who bans the hijab proposed in 2004 that women players wear "hot pants" on the pitch to boost the sport's popularity. He said that the "tighter shorts" would produce "a more female aesthetic." In addition, for years, human rights organizations have asked Blatter to take a stand and say something about the horrific influx of sex-slave trafficking that accompanies the arrival of the World Cup. Blatter’s cold response, "Prostitution and trafficking of women does not fall within the sphere of responsibility of an international sports federation but in that of the authorities and the lawmakers of any given country.” In other words, he’s not exactly Susan Faludi.
    Conversely, by denying the team the opportunity to show their genius in full Muslim dress, Blatter becomes an agent of their oppression. As Alyssa Rosenberg wrote for Think Progress, “If we’re really concerned with how women are perceived and treated in Muslim communities, it seems hugely counterproductive to adopt policies that force women to choose between abiding by the tenets of their faith and participating in activities that let them demonstrate their physical prowess and strategic intelligence.” I would add that Blatter's decision only feeds the profound Western ignorance regarding the position of Iranian women since the 1979 Islamic revolution. The literacy rate for women before 1979 was 35 percent. Now it’s over 75 percent. In the days of the Shah, only one-third of women were enrolled in institutions of higher education. Now that number is 50 percent. One in three Iranian doctors are female. In the United States, that number is one in five.
    The new presence of Henry Kissinger, pardon the expression, unveils what this kabuki theater is all about. Kissinger hasn’t been shy about his views on Iran, openly calling for war and saying, “We must work for regime change from the outside.” Given the way women’s rights has been used as a red herring to justify war on the Muslim world, this is about perpetuating the stereotype of the Muslim damsel in distress, denying those very women a powerful and visible presence on an international stage. This is about isolating Iran to continue the drumbeat of war. But most of all, at bottom, this is about Kissinger—and Blatter—using sports for their own political ends.
    Those who bleat that “sports and politics” should be kept separate when an athlete dares express an opinion, should turn their outrage toward Blatter, Kissinger and FIFA’s decision to see soccer as a tool to sideline Muslim women. We should call upon FIFA to revoke the forfeits and adhere to the three words that should bind all leagues, all countries and all people who believe that sports can reflect the best of our species: let them play.
    First published in thenation.com.
    AUTHOR
    Named UTNE Reader’s “50 Visionaries Who Are Changing Our World,” Dave Zirin is the sports editor for The Nation magazine. Zirin is a frequent guest on MSNBC, ESPN and Democracy Now! He also hosts his own weekly Sirius XM show, Edge of Sports Radio. His books include What's My Name Fool? (Haymarket Books), A People's History of Sports in the United States (the New Press), Bad Sports: How Owners Are Ruining the Games We Love (Scribner) and co-author of the forthcoming The John Carlos Story. You can find all his work at www.edgeofsports.com.
    http://www.iranian.com/main/2011/jun/let-them-play
  18. حمید Member

    There are events that present us with a chance to unify the world, it is then those events which are to be respected to dignify the world with no chance to deify. Those chances which have prevented us from having the events have been too painful to be yet a chance not having the chanse to respect a dignified world.

  19. Anonymous Member

    Her point was actually very relevant to this discussion - sports and politics.
    As for the Bahrain F1 - it won't happen. Too controversial.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Why do I get the sense that you're not entirely anti-regime in Iran? It's been days that we're having this discussion, and yet you still haven't said what do you think about women in Iran being forced to wear a hijab? The option not to wear a hijab simply doesn't not exist in Iran. Neither does the option to wear jeans and a T-shirt [for a woman] and walk down the street.
    Trust me - the world will not be uniting with Iran any time soon if the persecution of women persists.
  21. Anonymous Member

    Iranian troll?
  22. Anonymous Member

    I'm begining to think so, hehe.
  23. حمید Member

    As long as Bahrain in this thread, Bahrain has been involved as the game's referee which does not take any religious, political...in to consideration but only a game to judge based on regulation to be fair. All other discussions than questionability of a fair judgment by the referee in this case from Bahrain is irrelevent as long as Bahrain is concerned.
  24. حمید Member

    I am glad you mentioned it, because I have also started sensing of being chased. But I do not know how although I have, unfortunately left many traces behind me before, not been caught.
  25. anonymous612 Member

    This thread is now about all discussions other than questioning the fair judgement of Bahrain's referees.
  26. حمید Member

    Nice try for bumps!
    I think FIFA has given a very strong and clear answer regarding the matter and based on the news from Iran, the players know how the regime of terror has been unfair to them in this matter.
  27. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, Yoda finally speaks up!!!

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