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Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

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  1. OTBT Member

    Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

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    Image Shack yanked page 2 of the Four Winds Ranch brochure below. So I re-uploaded them. Grab them while you can.


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  2. Shalashar Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    WTF?!
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    In America, can people claim extreme cures that clearly are lies and not be prosecuted under trading standards?

    "Your child is demonstrating non-optimum behavior" . That is so Nazi.
  4. EyeOnSci Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Where did the doctor of nutrition come from?

    Where is the certification to work with children?

    Is the place licensed?

    Do any of the ex-sci kids know anyone who has gone through the program?
  5. Sponge Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    ...because they don't recognize things like "brain injury" as a medical condition? wtf?
    Yet they claim to be able to "handle" it. What exactly is "handling it"? To handle it then you must have diagnosed it in order to prescribe some form of treatment, be it therapy or whatever, otherwise how can you handle it?
  6. auchraw Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Almighty Xenus, what next? A prison camp for kids, run by a phony church claiming miracle cures? This has completely spoiled what was promising to be a nice day.
  7. the_cloak Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Sounds a lot like Tranquility Bay.
  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    I think the fine people at Four Winds Ranch need a post card ot two sent.
    Just to let them know we are aware of them
  9. OTBT Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    They claim to be RTC licensed and approved

    Dr. Lawrence J. Master, Ph.D doesn't seem to be anywhere on the intertubes, except for his Four Winds web site.

    No indication of schools he attended or graduated, no indication how he got his Ph.D. of Nutritional Sciences.

    Oh wait, he's a certified Hubbard CASE CRACKER, so he must know what he's doing. < sarcasm >

    This whole thing stinks. And they have the nerve to advertise "curing" autism. I wonder if John Travolta knows about this place.
  10. Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    You gotta hand it to the CULT. They have the answer to everything.
  11. RightOn Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    holy crap.
    This place has to go
  12. Lorelei Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    That is my question as well.

    Moonspeak Gulag sounds like a horrible place. Gawd. *shiver*
  13. Scatman Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Larry's Brainwash House.
    I would like to see the legal forms that the parents have to endorse to assign custody to Larry Baby.
    I think Larry Master's operation should receive an investigation from the state of Texas.
    BTW, "Case Cracker" is a registered trademark owned by the "Religious Technology Center"?
  14. OTBT Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    oooooh, me too

    What a wonderful idea. Any Texas Anons up to task?

    Yes. RTC owns many thousands of registered trademarks.

    Sorry if I'm posting too much in this thread. Just like the Children's RPF, this Four Winds hell hole has me riled up. Its certified by RTC, and seems pretty obviously run by an idiotic brainwashed old-timer scilon, whose sole qualifications seem to be "Case Cracker".

    If you haven't read the whole 2 pages of JPGs in OP, it's pretty scary. Reminds me of what CCHR claims the eeeevil psychs do.
  15. Zonker Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    It is my understanding that they wish to do the same with the ranch they have here in Tennessee, the target being middle school age children.
  16. Anonymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    What ranch? Do you have an address or any other information about this Scientology Tennessee Ranch?

    Links please, or any info to start digging around in.
  17. Optimisticate Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    In Texas, there are still rules for home schooling, and they consider home schools to be private schools.

    THSC Home Schooling FAQ's
    May someone else homeschool my child?
  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    A photo of the guy in charge. Are those tin foil space suit pajamas he's wearing?

    [IMG]
  19. Anonymous Member

  20. Lorelei Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    He looks like Dr. Pedobear Badtouch.

    Maybe, maybe not, but perhaps I am just tired of reading stories by ex-SciKids who were shuffled off, away from their parents, into the arms of a predator adult who took that "a kid is an adult thetan housed in a pint-size meatbody" concept a bit too seriously and were abusive or simply very poor caretakers as a result.
  21. Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    I'm guessing that praise isn't from John Travolta?
  22. Scatman Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    He claims that he is a licensed counsellor. Licensed by who? Not the state of Texas. Maybe the license he claims is a scientology "religious trademark" license, but that is irrelevant and misleading.
    https://legateway.dshs.state.tx.us/datamart/searchByName.do

    No evidence that he meets the state's requirements either:
    Texas State Board of Examiners of Professional Counselors Apply for a New License - Requirements
    He appears as nothing more than a fraudster.
  23. Anonymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    It is variously listed at 461 Cedar Crest Lane and 416 Cedar Crest Lane Woodbury TN in their icann registrations. They have some license or other that lists them at 220 sunshine lane.

    Their hideously long domain names are lifecenterforanewtomorrow.com (proxy, bitches) and theranchwherefreedombegins.com (also proxy). It looks like some sort of half-assed teen bootcamp complete with luxury housing. See also: a shed. When they aren't busy warehousing problem kids, they flog herbal medicine for animals elsewhere on the net.

    I don't know how much bidness these people do, but I suspect that there are a number of places like these throughout the states, not just in Texas and Tn. Could be some sort of startup business for scilons that see a need for some out-of-the-way hell hole for parents to sequester their problematic children in.

    I thought there was a thread about it somewhere, but damned if I can find it.
  24. Jeff Jacobsen Member

  25. Anonymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Scientology herbal medicine for animals and warehousing screwed up kids. David Miscavige's fallback plan if Ideal Orgs fall through in the real estate slump.
  26. Ann O'Nymous Member

  27. Squirrel Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Dr. L. Ron Hubbard, PhD also had a PhD.

    Any time a "doctor" of anything uses that honorific before his/her name, AND appends the degree(s), you will know that the degree is not legit.


    http://home.oursites.net/larrymaster/myself.htm

    H ello, my name is Larry Master, and here is a little bit about myself:

    I first started in Scientology in 1967, that same year I began to apply the principals to my life and to others as a Scientology counselor.





  28. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Might be him.

    Lawrence J. Master - Ancestry.com
  29. Ann O'Nymous Member

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  31. subgenius Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    looks like its about 50 miles from austin
    raid
  32. Lorelei Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Excellent catch, Squirrel! That chaps my ass, as both a Grammar Nazi and person with an actual education and handful of degrees.

    It's either "Dr." OR "Ph.D." (or (M.D., or Ed.D., or whatever), not BOTH, FFS. Ignorant people without legitimate credentials don't know that. People who have them, do.

    An educated person also knows the difference between "principals" (the Principal of your school is your pal) and "principles".
  33. churchlady Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    Do not like spelling and grammar errors in school brochure.

    A real Dr. or counselor will list schools, degrees, etc.

    The letters LRH are trademarked? Jesus H. Christ (tm)
  34. amaX Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    The brochure is from 2008.

    Is this place still open or is this old news?

    Not being a bitch here. This is relevant to something else I've harpooned if this is an ongoing thing.
  35. Optimisticate Member

  36. mojo Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    website still current thefourwindsranch.com


    Registrant:
    The Four Winds Ranch
    1107 HWY 1431
    #118
    Marble Falls, TX 78654
    US

    Domain name: THEFOURWINDSRANCH.COM


    Administrative Contact:
    Master, Larry nancymaster@msn.com
    1107 HWY 1431
    #118
    Marble Falls, TX 78654
    US
    +1.8306936570
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  37. subgenius Member

  38. PodPeople Member

  39. Optimisticate Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    The problem is that the address can be viewed as "ranch road" or "highway", but google only finds it when RR is used.

    [strike]Another problemo... Someone's gotta break out the poons, podnah

    Dr. Phil.com - Shows - Finding Alex

    Very disturbing that the site advertises that it's for teen girls.[/strike]
  40. Scatman Member

    Re: Four Winds Ranch - dumping ground for FAILED scientology kids

    thefourwindsranch.com hosting provider:

    SoftLayer Technologies Inc.
    1950 N Stemmons Freeway
    Dallas TX 75207
    USA

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