Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son For the lulz: Apparently, the nanny in charge of Jett is Jeff Kathrein, who is rumored to be Travolta's gay lover. Jeff Kathrein: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Pix behind the link.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Yup. That guy. Doesn't really seem like a good caregiver for a disabled kid (don't you need special training for that?)
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son i think way too much is made of 'that kiss'. it makes you all look pretty retarded. i do think John is in closet. but that kiss pretty much means nothing.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son funny (srsly). i assume you didnt miss the point i was making (your avatar indicates you are pretty intelligent)
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son I dunno, if any man I knew was seen kissing a dude like that....we'd not buy the "I do this all the time" explanation...better not be kissing on the restofus. NOT that there's anything wrong with that...
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son This might be a cultural issue actually. Kissing some one (male on male) on the lips does not make you gay. This does not mean JT isn't gay just that the act is actually acceptable in many cultures without the connotations.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Too much is made out of the photo. I mean he's not even using his tongue. Come on how gay is that.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son If John "kisses everyone like that," you'd think there'd be a whole stack of pix of him in liplocks with the rich and famous.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son ok so it goes from caretaker finds him in bathroom in morning, to he died in travolta's arms to his gay lover who found him? please this is getting hard to follow. what is happening?
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Uh, the point isn't "look he's gay". The point is, "Hey wait a minute they have this guy as a nanny? WHY HIM AND NOT SOMEONE QUALIFIED?"
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son His qualifications include: 1) he is a wedding photographer 2) he is a scientologist 3) he swaps spit (and who knows what else) with John Travolta sounds qualified to me. Wonder why nobody found the dead kid for 10 hours? is it because Jeff & John were busy fucking each others branes out? nah.... thetans ate their branes a long time ago
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son That's no 'European or Middle Eastern kiss'. No, sir.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Perhaps I've led an insular life but I've never seen men bidding farewell in that way.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son skip the middle (died in Travolta's arms). Caretaker and Gay lover are the same person.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son I would be happy to see more men bidding farewell in that way. Especially if they were hot.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son 1. he is a celeb 2. he is hollywood. 3. they know each other well / close friends 4. lovies - see all of the above. if you see such behaviour as 'omg u r gay' {esp due to all of the above} then that is kind of sad for you, and maybe you should have a think about what the term homophobia actually means. oh and just a little addition. it is a good pap shot, as it looks like they are kissing on the lips, but it is more like a moment before a kiss on the cheek
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Thinking someone's gay because they're seen kissing another man and inviting them on family vacations isn't actually a sign of homophobia, sry2say.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son interpreting possibly platonic, male-to-male affection as 'omg their gay!' is though (in some ways). (i could explain this further but i cannot be assed) the gossip rag / critics "omg that picture means he is gay" just annoys me in its retardedness - though i probably shouldn't have bothered mentioning it i do think the nanny probably sucks john's cock though
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Yeah, it's getting a little off-topic. If it was "lolTravolta brought his possible boyfriend with him on this trip", I wouldn't have posted it. It's not proof, but I'd put it as questionable, simply because the Travolta Camp's "he kisses everyone like that" thing wasn't true at all. Back on topic! If this guy was Jett's caretaker, who was Jett's other caretaker? Were either of them qualified non-Scientologists?
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son I agree. Just like indulging in oral and/or anal sex doesn't necessarily make you gay. Could be just a cultural thing. Yeah. I'm sure that's it. From the photo, I'd say he is very cultured.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Interestingly, there are some tribes in Africa... BUT. Seriously, we're not here to talk about whether or not Travolta's doing the nanny. We're here to talk about why Jett didn't have a qualified nanny. :<
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Cool wanna hook up then? It totally wont be gay and I promise you'll love it. As long as the balls don't touch your church wont don't look upon you.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son The papp photos look more like a peck on the lips, not a lip lock. Hell the kiss was closed-mouth. The photo doesn't mean anything IMHO. With that said, I would never kiss my buddies on the lips....sometimes we exchange a brotherly hug and a firm handshake. So, I guess the photo "looks" strange to some folks. I know showing that kind of affection to your "pal" is common in Europe, but I wasn't raised that way, nor were most Americans. /shrug
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Excellent point. No idea what training the dude had if any. My guess is none.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Well, he's a photographer, so obviously he's got a day job. (And a wife, lolz) If Jett only had epilepsy, I mean, I guess he wouldn't need that much training (just, "Keep an eye on him and if he has a seizure don't let him hurt himself", but I guess he dropped the ball on that one), but I'd assuming there'd be more training he'd need but be missing out on if Jett had autism? Uh, does anyone have first-hand experience with this sort of thing to weigh in on the matter?
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son I know straight guys that give a peck goodbye to each other. Then again, I can see the Golden Gate Bridge from my window... so my gaydar is set an order of magnitude lower that most folks'. YMMV
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Kiss any Italian Man I know on the lips like that, (if your a Man), and they will be finding your body parts in strange places. Cultural? Horseshit. I have friends from all over the World, and trust me, NONE of the men lip-lock like that! not with other Men, at least!
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son I digress to say 'interesting thought.....'
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son I'm employed by a caregiver company and specialise in the caregiving of the mentally challenged. Everyone at the agency regardless of placement has the same basic qualifications (CPR/First Aid certifications, background checks, driving record checks, extensive application, lots of character and professional references) but then we're placed with clients based on our experience with certain conditions. If the caregiver chosen is not familiar with a condition, the family typically trains the caregiver in special care. Some of the people at my agency are also certified nurse assistants or nursing students, and those of us who are get the more difficult cases because we're more qualified for hospital-like jobs in the home. That said, a lot of people don't feel like paying agency fees or the increased price for a fully qualified and vetted caregiver, so they just ask people around them for people they know who might be interested or they hold open auditions for applicants. In the end, it's the responsibility of the family to find someone qualified, not just go for someone close to them or someone who is ideologically similar. The Travoltas totally dropped the ball on this one -- if they really wanted Jett to be cared for, they should have looked outside of Scientology and sought out truly qualified caregivers for epileptic or autistic children. I guess if you think it doesn't exist, you don't feel like you need to or... something. I don't know at this point, ugh.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Oh yeah, we all kissed each other this way. This is how DM greets everyone... Well, he, John & Tom take it to the next level and there may have been some abuse. I think it was a Base Order to kiss all SO members (when greeting) on the mouth, especially first thing at roll call. John was just copycat'n. Does this mean you are gay when your staff wants some hot lov'n? Prolly not. But that pic says a lot. Ok, just bs'n but srsly, Scientology is not one damn bit different to the Catholic priests when it cums to hiding sexual sekrits. PC folders makes for sum interesting reading.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son Many years exp. with both seizures and autism. It is not rocket science. Mostly common sense. Usually just keeping the person from hurting themselves. (Long ago there seemed to be some superstition that there was a danger of "swallowing their tongue"--can't happen). More advanced care would require meds supervision, which is usually not allowed for nanny/mannies. It does look to me like Jett had some mid range level of autism. A lot of teh difficulty with autistics is being able to communicate with or understand what they need or want. Usually there is no specific danger from autism, other than perhaps difficulty assessing environmental dangers. (May walk off an embankment or into traffic). Most states have specifications for caregivers--if they are to be paid with state funds. My guess is that there is little or no specification in the Bahamas.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son like this one? and again. the kiss with the nanny is not on the lips
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son That old guy looks like he has absolutely no interest in having John Travolta kiss him.
Re: Gawker: Travolta's Rumored Gay Lover Discovered Dead Son back to nanny being underqualified, it honestly isn't hard to get a first aid and cpr certification. I first got mine over 3 days on a long weekend when I was 15. had it renewed when due ever since. however, the fact that jett wasn't discovered until the morning shows a few key points. 1, they might not have seen jett off to bed every night, just letting him go when he pleased, 2, jett may have already been to bed but got up for whatever reason, and died 3, (what time in the morning did they find him?) 4, we've heard that he "died in travolta's arms" this implies that jett may have been dying all night, or that he actually didn't die at night, but rather when the nanny guy went to check on him. OR, he had been dead and neither of them (john or nanny) knew he was dead and thought he was still dying that last point is the big one. if jett died all night, they would probably have heard him screaming for help or something. if he died in the morning when nanny came to check, nanny is a suspect if he was dead and nobody knew, then they actually didn't have first aid/cpr/a brain to know to check for a pulse
