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Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

Discussion in 'Jett Travolta' started by Anonymous, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. pooks Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

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  2. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Autism isn't a life threatening condition.


    .[/QUOTE]

    It is if it's accompanied by a seizure disorder. Jett's dead is he not?
  3. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    IMHO, the central issues here are : What parents knowing that their child is autistic and has a seizure every ourth day would:
    - stopped the treatment against seizures and why ? In JT's lawyers words it was effective. It seems that problems with such medication can appear but the usual solution is to find another treatment without these side effects.
    - put him under the care of a photographer and a software engineer ? No training in the area is ever mention. Their only qualiication seems to be scientologists...
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    bad choices? imo yes

    illegal choices? probably not
  5. ZeLyt Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Whether its a life threatening issue or not, its still wrong to deny a child(particularly one who can't help himself) medication that he needs to function. And yes, an unmedicated autistic child has difficulty functioning. This still pisses me off.

    And no comparisons to jhovah's witness' need be made. There is a difference between an informed decision to deny meds, and denying them to someone who can't speak for himself.
  6. cubby Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    i don't believe i heard that it was conclusively determined he died due to a seizure.

    did you hear that?
  7. whosit Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Couple of thoughts/questions

    - Why so long to get a statement from John? Dated 2/25/09. Nothing like 2 months to get your story straight.
    - Is there really anything in these doxs that we already didn't know?
    - Lightbourne, isn't that one of the regular "I'm not a scientologist, but" that posts on any negative on-line article?
    - Is this something that we can use vs. "he had kawasaki". Or did footbullet man already cover this in his media tour back in Jan/Feb?
  8. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    We should check the dates but IMHO it is in connection with the blackmail claim. Thix seems to be confirmed by the long bit on the document JT signed.
    Second manny's name, mostly.
    -
    Now we can call JT a liar.
  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    It is if it's accompanied by a seizure disorder. Jett's dead is he not?[/QUOTE]

    No, Jett is not dead. There is no proof Jett is dead. I have seen no dox that Jett is dead that could not be faked. Not everything is an elaborate conspiracy, but some things are -- this. /herromode
  10. pardmepard Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    There are different levels of accountability, not all being in a court of law.
    It's public opinion as well and the cult is a consumer based organisation by the fact that they use stars to promote it and sell the information they have.


    This should serve as a warning NOT to put your or especially your children's health issues into the hands of scientology or it's crackpot founder or it's current leaders and especially their star adherents.

    Mental Health consumers have many advocacy groups to protect it from the abuses of Psychology and Pharmacology.

    Are there any such programs allowed for scientology, considering it's abuses without the hindrance of OSA ?

    Illegal choices ?

    It's ethically wrong in so many ways as posted by many in this thread and scientology espouses that they are the most ethical people on the planet.

    We the people, we the public are the Judges.
  11. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    then why is jett dead?
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Travolta Extortion Mystery Solved | RadarOnline.com

    or go lurk the Jett Room
  13. Mutante Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Interesting:

    "The indication from recent studies [into prevalence of austism] is that the figures cannot be precisely fixed, but it appears that a prevalence rate of around 1 in 100 is a best estimate a best estimate of the prevalence in children. No prevalence studies have ever been carried out on adults."

    That's a big audience with an interest in learning how to keep their autistic children alive. Keeping them away from Scientologists might be a good start.

    UK source of stat: The National Autistic Society - Statistics: how many people have autistic spectrum disorders?
  14. Tenebrous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    What was this thread about again?

    jetwotrlyhpnd.jpg

    Oh yeah.
    Anyway, this is one of those things that many of us feel are wrong, but that's not going to get anyone convicted. You will never see the travoltas serving time over this, just as you won't see any jehovah's witnesses serving time for the "no blood transfusion" nonsense that they pour into each other's heads.

    There was already prevalent speculation that jett was autistic. The only thing this snippet possibly contributes is to what john travolta's mindset on the subject is.

    *edit*
    Zelyt: I wouldn't really say that someone who thinks they can go to hell for a blood transfusion has informed consent :p

    LilDebbie: Kids can choke on corndogs. Does that mean having one in your hand is a fatal condition? Complications can arise from some disorders that lead to death, but I'd say herro is using a more legal definition. In that case, autism wouldn't be considered a fatal condition like cancer, per se.
  15. Herro Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Sigh. Why must you constantly fail?

    Jett died because he cracked his head on a bathtub. That's not autism last time I checked.
  16. pardmepard Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    It's not up to us if they serve any time. It's up to us to warn others by the facts that are being gathered to expose the harmful effects of the consumer based cult of scientology and we are doing just that effectively and the Jett Travolta case is a testament for this cause.
  17. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    point of clarification: there is a world of difference between autism and autistic spectrum disorder. the latter might be diagnosed in a kid who has trouble being social with his peers and an obsessive interest in math, the former means you can't speak human language and have a tendency to bite people or bang your head against the wall until you fracture your skull.
  18. Tenebrous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    kudos
  19. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    if you leave an autistic child to his own devices, he will end up killing himself by banging his head into something long and hard enough to cause fatal brain damage. this is not a complication that arises from the disorder. it is the disorder. likewise, seizures alone can kill, even if you have it in a nice, padded hugbox.

    furthermore, jett didn't jack his head against the bathtub. there was no evidence of blunt force trauma, remember? that was some bullshit travolta's lawyers threw out as smokescreen early on. get your facts straight, loser.

    zesty sauce: Autopsy Confirms Jett Travolta Died of "Seizure," Body to Be Cremated - E! Online
  20. Skeptic1337 Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Don't over generalize and your point will come across better.

    Not all autistics suffer from seizures.
  21. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    1/10
  22. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    and not everyone with untreated hodgkin's lymphoma dies as a result. your point?
  23. kissyfur Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    i think the vaccine-haters are more of a threat, but hopefully most people would do as much reasearch as possible so good point.

    also, i just love how Bizarre you are, ya freak ;)
    /derail
  24. ntnmf Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.


    whoa. i know quite a few autistic children and most of them prefer to be left alone with whatever has peaked their interest. it's only when they have to interact with other people or whatever they are obsessed with is taken away that they have a high speed come apart.
  25. auchraw Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    How do you know he cracked his head on a bathtub? Have you seen a copy of a medical report that says so? There is no mention of this in the statement signed by JT, only that Jett was unconscious and was treated as though he had had a heart attack.

    From the blackmail article quoted above: "Dames said the document [denial of permission to transport, signed by JT without reading it, apparently] was irrelevant because of the severity of Jett's injuries ..." What injuries? There is no mention of injuries in the police report signed by JT.

    This statement is evidently true in parts but fudges the injury question, the time question, and the transport question. In particular it never says if Jett was alive or dead in the bathroom or in the ambulance.

    There is a lot more to find out.
  26. kissyfur Member

  27. Herro Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Ok, if it was a seizure, it's still not because of autism. And let's be clear, it was never officially determined that he died because of a seizure.
  28. whosit Member

  29. auchraw Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Whether the autopsy report was true or not, it determined officially that he died because of a seizure. Is there something in this you don't understand?

    Edit: OK, seizure disorder; does this have some other meaning? It's not the disorder that kills, it's the seizure.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Correct - it was officially determined he died of a "seizure disorder"
  31. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Autism isn't a life threatening condition.[/QUOTE]

    You normally do a better job of maintaining the standard you lampoon others for failing to achieve.

    SpringerLink - Journal Article

    Which isn't massively life threatening - but please to be getting your facts right before accusing others of failing to do same - Herro more effective that way.

    [IMG]
  32. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    My buddy Roger had full blown AIDS. He was weakened from this and lost 45 lbs in the last 4 months of his life. Late in 1997 he caught a pneumonia and died the next day.

    AIDS itself continues to not kill anyone, so let's not do anything about AIDS. you're all stupid for focusing on AIDS research and trying to cure AIDS because it doesn't kill.
  33. BoombaGoomba Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    This is HUGE!! Everyone knew it already but we were just waiting for him to come clean. I knew one day he would, as a parent it was tearing him from the inside out.
  34. btwyhad Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Good point. BTW would pneumonia shot/vaccine help in these cases ? Just learned about pneumonia shots with the swine flu issues /derail

    Consumer based warning systems, yeah, Chanology
    the internet

    We the people.

    I like it : )
  35. Mutante Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Says who?
  36. Skeptic1337 Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Don't over generalize and it stops people from nitpicking.

    Jett died from gravitational force disorder imo. His head didn't like the sudden stop the bathtub caused.

    The JT quote is kind of cool though he's like OT9000 right? It should cause some cognitive dissonance (regardless of how jett died) to the culties if done in a nice flier. OT8 son dies of autism...has an awesome ring to it.
  37. btwyhad Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.


    scientology is a consumer based cult that has no protections for kids like Jett Travolta !


    would that make a good sign ?
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    said Skeptic, generalising about people who nitpick while nitpicking generally...

    (He's right tho...)
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    Did he close any pools in the process?
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: Glosslip: John admits Jett had autism.

    I lol'd actually

    tho for a sign its overlong

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