Hackers go after Orlando Scrooges (Anons oppose squelching hungry/homeless)

On the other hand there's more to nutrition than just a full stomach.

Re: the first bit about tending to be veggie, maybe they should leave their personal shit at home imo and stop blending causes.

They're volunteers, how you gonna force them? They're NYPA.... (&c &c)

Anyway, better veggie food than no food.

If you have to feed a large group with little money, rice and beans is nutritious and filling. And cheap.
Just ask the Sea Org.

You don't know the myriad other reasons behind this situation. In Cali, rich fags with a view of the lake bawwed because the county installed a floating outhouse, tried to get it removed so they wouldn't have to look at it with their exalted eyes.

It may well be part of "out of sight out of mind." You just don't know, because they give a "reasonable excuse."

Did I say I was going to force them? I just won't help them.

Or maybe it's not part of a global conspiracy against the poor and has something to do with the fact that this group did not get permits to do this.

Bleech!

It's my oppinion this is about the rich being offended, though that wasn't the point of my post. Several previous posts had confused the two types of permits, and it seems to me that the rational of the arrests change depending on which type of permit they were in violation of.

Being veggie doesn't mean you're malnourished. They're not blending causes. Are you saying that they shouldn't volunteer if they don't want to handle meat?

^ straw man argument.

like you would have if the food wasn't veggie. bet you're not even in Orlando.

I drive into Orlando for a nice dinner, fail harder.

No but there are certain vitamin supplements they recommend to vegetarians and somehow I don't think Food Not Bombs is giving those to the homeless too.

Try actually reading. Again:

Please pay better attention, dear.

Meh. As some anon poster above said. Some food is better than none.

Oh the irony. That same question again:
I'm asking if your opinion is that they shouldn't volunteer at all if they're not giving the starving homeless meat? Not what you would or wouldn't do about the situation.

Do pay better attention if you're going to try to condescend, dear.

Oh, and I'm also not one of those PETA, vegan/veggie oddballs. Like a good burger just as much as the next man.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/277122/Food-Not-Bombs-finds-arrest-free-area-to-feed

tl;dr: this wasn't really about food safety, it was about a technicality involving limits on the number of permits issuable.

I'm sure they were following health codes, they are very well established and with a good reputation. If you had clicked on the hotlink of Orlando Food not Bombs, you'd see:

Our group shares food because people need it and as a means of calling attention to our society's failure to provide food and housing to each of its members. We do this in public spaces, such as parks, because we believe that space should be reclaimed for the use of everyone, not just the privileged. We are an activist collective and humanitarian group that opposes the poverty, inequality, violence, war and militarism, prejudice and oppression, and environmental destruction that make groups such as ours necessary. We believe in trying to solve problems such as hunger through direct action as much as possible, and without seeking any permission or assistance from government. We do not use any tax money or grants to fund our activities, although we gladly accept voluntary contributions.

http://orlandofoodnotbombs.org/#about

... and other cool stuff at their site. I'm sure they are not new at this, and practice proper food handling methods, but their mission is, by my standards, pretty awesome.

EDIT: Agree about the dumpsters. If there is no shelter for the night, they will also sleep in them.

I really don't care what they do, I just think it's foolish to potentially alienate allies because you insist on being a vegetarian organization. Not a judgement on right vs wrong, a judgement on effective vs detrimental.

Can't we all just get along while we eat?

Ahem. Two permits per park per year is easy? It's an unconscionable attempt to keep the well-off from seeing the poverty that's been created by shipping jobs overseas while they and their portfolios prosper.

I was in Orlando for a conference once some years ago. At the time I wasn't all that impresssed and I thought I'd never go back.

Now I know it.

Boycott Orlando. Or better yet, boycott Disney (just because it's near Orlando and many people stay in Orlando hotels to go see the rodent) and see how quickly the ordinance changes... (How's that song go? "M i c k e y L o u s e. Mickey Mouse, he's a louse...")

The fact that only two permits are issued per year tells me a little something more...

FFS, that's not an immutable policy! Issue more fucking permits, duh! (god I hate bureaucracy)

Uhm, except, you know, for the fact that Disney is in Lake Buena Vista.

only two? Ya that is telling.

so go hand out some meat. what's stopping you?

The lack of care about homeless people, mostly.

You mean the Lake Buena Vista that's a whole 23.8 miles drive from Orlando? I have friends who take their little bast...darlings to Disney World once a year. They stay in a hotel in Orlando.

'nuff said.

They stay in Orlando by choice. There are a shitload of (expensive hotels) on Disney property in Lake Buena Vista and cheaper ones in nearby Kissimmee. Many chose to stay in Orlando because of it's proximity to the other tourist traps like Universal Studios, Sea World, etc. I used to work at Walt Disney World.

^That. I don't stay in a hotel at all when I visit Disney, that doesn't make Clearwater and Disney close to each other. That being said, I was really just correcting the faulty logic of boycotting Disney to get back at Orlando, when there's no real relation between the two.

Guess it depends how fast you drive, but yeah, 76 miles is not "close".

Meh. You can zip across those 76 miles in 8.9 seconds, Smurf. You're that fast.

Um sure. I take it you've never driven on Interstate 4. The term "highway hostages" was coined to describe people stuck in long commutes to and from Orlando on I-4.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/277122/Food-Not-Bombs-finds-arrest-free-area-to-feed

Who said anything about driving?

It's good to learn that FNB has found an arrest-free area, though.

"On Monday, Dyer offered to let the group use the plaza in front of City Hall without a permit, as long as the group halts the feedings at the park. It's a great spot for political demonstrations, Stephens said in an interview Tuesday. But with no restrooms or running water, it's no good for eating. Both sides continue to accuse the other of being unwilling to negotiate. But neither side is willing to give ground on the only real issue in dispute: the use of Lake Eola Park."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...-dyer-food-not-bombs-20110712,0,2380014.story

Excellent work!