HELP! Names that need confirming for The Big List

Discussion in 'Projects' started by TrevAnon, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. TrevAnon Member

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  2. TrevAnon Member

    Great idea! Leah seems to have a special page for celebs or something where there is no (published) friends list. Angelo though has a friends page with >1,200 friends. :)

    Here's what I did:
    - Scroll down Pagan's Friends page until all names are visible.
    - Save webpage as text
    - Open text file in LibreOffice calc and get rid of all lines that are not names
    - check these names against a slightly older completions databse (2011 I think)
    - check these names against current big list entries

    Name checking as always on an exact search basis.

    Angelo seems to have 61 friends who were in but are not on the big list. :p

    They are:

    Adam Beason
    Alex Pagan
    Angelica Martinez
    Anthony Garcia
    Anthony Price
    Antonio Martinez
    Archie Drury
    Ashleigh Prince
    Ben Knapple
    Bruce Weide
    Carlos Gomez
    Carlos Gomez
    Cindy Plahuta
    Dan Jablons
    Dan-Viggo Bergtun
    David L. Kerr
    David Romero
    Elena Lyons
    Emanuel Simonian
    Enrique Fernandez
    Eric Alvarez
    Frank Cordero
    Gabriel Gonzalez
    Holly Palmer
    Jann Wagner
    Jasmin Espada
    Jeff Byrd
    Jeff Myers
    Jocelyn Jones
    John Griffin
    Jose Munoz
    Juan Gonzales
    Juan Gonzalez
    Juan Rodriguez
    Karen Merritt Randall
    Kevin Sizemore
    Laura Mulhearn
    Lucy Hernandez
    Mario Gonzales
    Maritza Rodriguez
    Mary Francis
    Michael Laws
    Michael Lopez
    Michael Myers
    Michael Pena
    Mike Rinder
    Monica Eaton Cardone
    Natalie Sutherland
    Raymond Korns
    Richard Rivera
    Rick Siegel
    Scott Bradberry
    Sergei Yurov
    Shawn May
    Simon Simonian
    Sofia Milos
    Stephanie Brown
    Steve Drabin
    Teresa Fernandez
    Tom Little
    Willman Morcillo

    I'd say however them being friends with Angelo is not enough proof. If they are found elsewhere speaking out I'd say the can be put on the list.

    By the way: Angelo is also friends with

    Chantal Dodson
    Lucas Catton
    Scott Campbell
    Sinar Parman
    Andrea Lombard
    Angelo Pagan
    George Marshall
    Joy Graysen
    Karen De La Carriere
    Karry Campbell
    Melissa Paris
    Michelle Visage
    Shannon Farrara
    Vicki Marshall
    William Kilmartin

    who are all already on. :)
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  3. TrevAnon Member

    Ok, now did the same for George Marshall

    He is friends with the following names that are in completions but NOT on the big list:

    Bruce Wiseman
    Charles Vickers
    Gary Knutson
    Helyn Dunn
    Jane Houlihan
    John Griffin
    Mark Peters
    Michael Laws
    Natalie Avital
    Susan Hanasab
    Tom Burpee
    Whitney Kieser

    He is also friends with the following names who are on the big list

    Angelo Pagan
    Gerhard Waterkamp
    Karry Campbell
    Luis Garcia
    Nicci Lotz
    Sabine Waterkamp
    Scott Campbell
    Shannon Farrara
    Tim Swanson
    Trey Lotz
    Vicki Marshall
    William Kilmartin

    The others (Vicki, Nicole etc.) have unpublished friends lists.
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  4. TrevAnon Member

    Now did the same for Karen de la Carriere

    Using exact search: the following people are in completions and on Karen's friends list, but not on the big list

    Aaron Mathias
    Aaron Smith-Levin
    Adam Donshik
    Agnes Wouters
    Aida de Thomas
    Angela Marie LeMay
    Barry Johnson
    Bart Baggett
    Bob Campbell
    Bob Smith
    Bob Young
    Byron Dawson
    Carla Miller
    Chris Shugart
    Cindy Plahuta
    Conrad Romo
    Cooper Kessel
    Craig Wilson
    Dallas T. Hill
    Danny Ramsey
    Dave Griffin
    David Fennick
    David James
    David Jones
    David Reynolds
    Dawn Armando
    Dee McMurdie
    Donald Cramer
    Doreen Kaplan
    Dorthe Mai
    Dusan Djukich
    Edward Owen Terino
    Eitan Sonnenberg
    Emily Johnson
    Fred Crivello
    Garth Lombard
    Gary Smith
    Ginger Boyd
    Glenn Dieckman
    Glenn Vice
    Greg Tennison
    Italo Alberti
    Jackie Duncan
    James Cundiff
    Jean Helpert
    Jeff Myers
    Jeffrey Levine
    Jenni Silberstein
    Jennie Dailey
    Jess Pierce
    John Haggerty
    John Martin
    John Smith
    Jorgen Jensen
    Jose Dominguez
    Joy Westrum
    Kat Brady
    Katerina Karadima
    Kay Rowe
    Kelly Weber
    Ken Robinson
    Lisa Wright
    Lucy James
    Mark Jefferson
    Mark Plummer
    Marta Willson
    Mary Kahn
    Michael Laws
    Michael Peterson
    Michael Roiger
    Mike Horton
    Mike Rinder
    Mimi Smith-Danielson
    Nadia Talbi
    Natalie Webster
    Nick Wright
    Pamela Mattioli-Tucker
    Patricia Curtis
    Paul Ingram
    Paul Sweeney
    Phil Jones
    Placido Domingo
    Rafael Lozano
    Randall Wise
    Rita Corica
    Robert Burns
    Robert Collins
    Robin Steely
    Ron Czerepak
    Russell Williams
    Sarah Brown
    Sean Codd
    Shelley Ashurst
    Silvia Llorens
    Silvio de Boni
    Skip Press
    Stephen Price
    Steve Edison
    Susan Walker
    Tiziana Lugli
    Tom Provenzano
    Udana Power
    Valerie Hastings
    Victoria Collins
    Wayne Gerald
    Wayne Wilson

    Also using exact search: Karen is friends with 422 names who are ALL on the big list.
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  5. TrevAnon Member

    Now did the same for Marty Rathbun

    Aaron Mathias
    Aaron Smith-Levin
    Adam Donshik
    Alberto Goffy
    Alison Andrus
    Angela Marie LeMay
    Bonnie Kittelson
    Brian Dawson
    Carla Miller
    Cindy Plahuta
    Cooper Kessel
    Craig Wilson
    Danny Ramsey
    Dave Griffin
    David Reynolds
    Dawn Armando
    Dee McMurdie
    Donald Cramer
    Doreen Kaplan
    Eitan Sonnenberg
    Elliott Snow
    Emily Dieckman
    Emily Johnson
    Glenn Dieckman
    Italo Alberti
    Jackie Duncan
    Jason Blair
    Jeff Brown
    Jeffrey Levine
    Jenni Silberstein
    Jennie Dailey
    Jimmy Samuelsen
    John Frere
    Kat Brady
    Kay Rowe
    Kitty James
    Leticia Atayde
    Lucy James
    Makis Rallatos
    Mark Plummer
    Marta Willson
    Mary Kahn
    Mike Rinder
    Miri Sonnenberg
    Moshe Miller
    Nancy Pearce McKenna
    Natalie Webster
    Nick Wright
    Noeleen Foster
    Norma Garcia
    Pam Brown
    Patricia Curtis
    Placido Domingo
    Rachel Smith
    Rafael Lozano
    Randall Wise
    Robert Burns
    Robert Patterson
    Rodney Higgins
    Rowena Kaleopa
    Russell Williams
    Sandra Simmons
    Shelley Ashurst
    Silvia Llorens
    Silvio de Boni
    Steve Bode
    Steve Bos
    Steve Culp
    Steve Williams
    Sylvia Machado
    Tiziano Fracassetti
    Tom Provenzano
    Valerie Hastings
    Victoria Collins

    It's clear lots of names are already on with slight spelling differences. Marty has 307 friends who are on the big list.

    Any requests for other well known SP's to check?

    In b4 all exes hide their FB friends list. :)
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  6. RightOn Member

    holy crap Trev, you have been busy.
    I guess the best thing to do would be just to ask if these people want to be added to the Big List and what the Big List consists of and power in numbers and all that? We may just get lucky. As far as how you are going to ask them that is a different story. But I have faith in you! ;)
  7. TrevAnon Member

    Won't do that as I use my real name on FB and would like to stay anonymous in the fight against COS. :)

    So I guess it will be the hard way: check if a name is on the big list with another spelling, and if not, search for anything critical of the COS.
  8. TrevAnon Member

    Just did this for the Angelo Pagan's friends list, but no luck. Lots of people in showbizz though, so keeping a low profile about being out may be a business decision.

    Oh, and inb4 COS saying "See? There is no such thing as disconnection! TrevAnon proved it!"
  9. RightOn Member

    Please keep me update on what list you are working on, so here is not double work
    I won't do Angelo's list now.

    and understood, but I didn't mean that way. There has to be another way. Maybe someone who has a twitter account ? Or try to contact the person directly through email or snail mail
  10. TrevAnon Member

    Just checked Marshall's list, no luck either.
  11. TrevAnon Member

  12. TrevAnon Member

    Rathbun list finished.
  13. RightOn Member

    Adam Beason used to be with star Catherine Bell who is now with a woman according to ESMB
  14. RightOn Member

    Elena Lyons is Cardone's wife.
  15. TrevAnon Member

    That's what I mean. Disconnection doesn't exist. :D
  16. RightOn Member

    Michael Roiger already on Big List as Mike
    Cindy Plahuta already on under Cindy Bernot Plahuta
    Mike Laws already on
    if you can still edit your post, maybe cross these out?
  17. TrevAnon Member

    Tried Jefferson Hawkins' friends list. No luck. :(

    Also Tom DeVocht, found 2.
  18. TrevAnon Member

    Just checked the names on this petition

    against completions and the big list. The following names were in completions but not on the big list using exact name comparison:

    bill johnson
    Charles Nelson
    Chris Cooper
    Christopher Smith
    David Alexander
    David Bowen
    David Wood
    Edward Estrada
    Eric Chen
    Ian Johnson
    James Henry
    Jason Lewis
    John Anderson
    John Barber
    Joseph O'Donovan
    Josh Miller
    Kevin Grant
    Liana Stevens
    Martin Smith
    Michael Lin
    Michael Turner
    mike smith
    Paul Turnbull
    Paul Williams
    Phil Anderson
    Sandy Wise
    Steve Jackson
    Steve Moore
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  22. RightOn Member

    Need more sauce on Guy Vogel.
    Or Trev, can someone one EXMB confirm his name?
    Not in completions :( . There is an Anton Vogel and a Silvio Marcus Vogel (years don't match) or whatever and a few others I found on the net, but no Guy Vogel.
    but just posted a rant about the Warrens in WWP in the thread. So he was or is still is in some sort of Freezone.
    I guess he hates the Warrens now. LOL
    Don't know if that is his actual name, he has other comments on one of Marty's post's too.

    He posted this comment back in 2011.
    Comment in Freezone site:
    I just attested to the “Int Rundown” after being slammed into my head thirty seven years ago right after completing a “Life Repair Program.” When I attested to “Life Repair” in 1974, I was truly blown out. However, about twenty five minutes after that, I slammed right back into my head. This incident never, ever came up again–but I knew it was a big concern. Even after several auditing programs afterwards, those auditors didn’t pick up on it. It was a big silent PTP. Today, I feel that this concern has finally been addressed. Les Warren has helped me repair this concern with the Int Rundown program. I feel relieved with what was–at one time–a major concern. I now feel that I can move forward. Thanks, Les. Also, thanks to myself for carrying this unwanted key in for so many years and having the courage to work through it with Les. Guy Vogel
    Another post 2015:
    partial snip:
    At least Mark Rathbun looks as if he knows that he is making a mistake in what he is doing. He does show some remorse mixed with some arrogance. Anyone would have his arrogance if they had his experience in the sea org and under DM. Anyway my last words are please look before you leap if you really want to help keep the tech standard. The tech works when delivered standard-ly and mixed with lots of ARC.
  23. RightOn Member

    Joseph Le Sanglier
    posts as Le Sanglier Joseph
    Blog comments on many Indie sites
  24. RightOn Member

    Gideon Rosenblatt - Free an Able business listing .

    maybe cross post to ESMB to see if they can confirm
    not in completions.
    Only Martin Rosenblatt in completions
    actually the listing on free an able may be spam looks like some Ireland gambling site
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  26. RightOn Member

    Can anyone hear this persons name at 58:43?
    It is Judy something. Was Judy Manning while she was in.
    Said she worked for the Guardians Office n LA

    Also name tag at 1:15. Can anyone make it out?
  27. RightOn Member

    Elijah Louis listed on FZ site- link is dead
    Brian Dario -listed as auditor on FZ site
    Vlad Kaydakov
    Mike Moran
    Kim Anthony
    Omar Lalani
    Korneev Sergey
  28. Incredulicide Member

    Two names that testified at the Victorian Board of Inquiry were quoted by Steve Cannane in his book Fair Game, confirming they were Scientologists, but what's missing in the book is whether they are testifying as former members or current members being cross-examined. This detail would be revealed in the full transcripts if we got hold of them, until then not knowing if they had left before the inquiry or not means we can't add the names:

    George Maltby, a picture framer from Olinda and one of Melbourne's pioneering Scientologists, was not sure why Farrell was portraying himself as part of a religious movement [in 1955]. (Fair Game, page 58)
    "Farrell seemed to have got the idea firmly into his head. I don't think anybody else was greatly impressed with it." - page 4657, Anderson Inquiry transcript, 1964.

    Peter Crundall, one of the first staff members at Spring Street, a company director and father of four, wrote to Scientology's international headquarters asking that the local church's debts be cleared. (Fair Game, page 70)
    "I got quite upset, quite emotional," Crundall later testified. 'Dr Hubbard said,"Well, now look, my fellow, you are temporarily suspended until you get yourself some retraining and some processing and let us see that you are handling things in a more rational manner."' page 854, Anderson Inquiry transcript, 1964.
  29. RightOn Member

    As far as Peter Crundall Goes? He is in completions. There are two.
    But also says he was eliminated as a mission holder in 1982 and mentioned in the Freezone.
    Wonder if he left and came back in or, those are different Crundalls in completions
    Also listed a Leigh Crundall who hung themselves on the COS Suicide Wiki

    Completions has one under Peter Crundall entries up to 2007 and one under Peter R. Crundall and entries up to 2008
    Also asked about on Rinder's blog n 2013:
    "What ever happened to the Westwood Mission, Peter & Lisa Crundall?"
    With no reply.
    Westowodd Mission info:
    Church Of Scientology, Mission Of Wilshire/Westwood is a California Domestic Corporation filed on May 21, 1973 . The company's filing status is listed as Suspended and its File Number is C0681178.

    The Registered Agent on file for this company is Donella Frost and is located at 12617 Mitchell Ave #4, Los Angeles, CA 90066. The company's principal address is 12617 Mitchell Ave #4, Los Angeles, CA 90066.

    The company has 1 principal on record. The principal is Donella Frost from Los Angeles CA.
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  30. Incredulicide Member

    Randomly came across a name on wikipedia: James Skelton
    This seems to be from Black Magic in Tangier by Mark Walker (with the additional info that John's affliction was Polio), but it is contradicted by a couple things. From One Nation, Under Gods: A New American History by Peter Manseau:
    Another book, And Then It Was Winter: Went Away a Boy and Returned a Man, Volume Two by Loy VanNatter, mentions the same story without saying whether James Skelton remained a Scientologist.

    Page 23 of Ability magazine #158 in February 1964 lists James Skelton as the person to contact at "Scientology Mexico" for Training, Processing and Information, so he was still a Scientologist at least 8 years after failing to cure John Cooke of Polio.

    There are no completions to confirm Lucky Jim remained a Scientologist between 1964 and when he died in 1994, but without evidence of him speaking out in that time, we shouldn't add him.
  31. DeathHamster Member

    Scientology's un-invite list for WUS events, 2010. It includes a lot of Scientolgists who were members at that time, but were definitely on the Ethics shitlist and who are probably out now. Some interesting family names, probably with disconnection family fractures.

    Not enough to be added to the Big List, but a good place to look.
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    Helena Ulintz, aka Helena Cristina Nunes Henriques, Helen Henriques
    No completions found under any of those variants :(

    Age: Unknown
    Location: New York
    Years in: 2004-2006, 2014-2016
    The About button on G+ has an email address and P.O. Box number, along with this intro text:
    She has published a book of poetry under the pen name Romy Erikson, and is currently writing an autobiographical book.
  34. Incredulicide Member

    Second and apparently final video. She hints at a lot of views. Was it shared elsewhere, like Facebook? Is anyone commenting about knowing her from an Org?

  35. TrevAnon Member

    The first part got 4400 views, which I think is quite a lot for such a video.

    Haven't found it elsewhere.

    Maybe it got picked up in the FB-groups for Leah's show.

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