Hug raids are made of fail and aids I don't want to parrot the standard /i/ line of "This isn't what Anonymous is about, get out of our secret tree house, fightclub, internet hate machine, lulz, moralfags, bawwwwwww" etcetera, and I don't want to claim to speak for the general consensus of the group. I just want to say that personally I die a little inside whenever I see photos or videos of hug raids. This feeling is outwardly expressed thusly I mean, ok, you want to show everyone that the COS propaganda about us being terrorists is false. I would have thought the three completely peaceful worldwide protests would have done a better job at dispelling those lies than small groups of masked strangers committing random acts of affection. I know we lost people with the last protest due to the overall soppyness, lack of lulz, and 'white knighting' inherent in operation reconnect, now that that's over with we can bring back the party people with the promise of battletoads. Prank calling is appealing, and it's what anon does best. Hugging makes us- I was going to say 'makes us look silly' but we've got that pretty much covered... It makes us look even more pathetic, and I think it turns away those anons who might otherwise join us.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Yeah I hear you. I understand the rationale and if people want to do it thats fine but it doesn't sit right with me. And anyway, I don't think people should be that comfortable hugging masked people. But maybe it suits the culture or something in your local area.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Meh. Some people say we shouldn't prank call and some people say we shouldn't hug. Last time I checked nobody gets the final call about these things but the individual. If you bwa about people who prank call you're a moralfag. If you bwa about people who hug you're just another steroid-laden bozo. I'm thinking people should do what they can and get out of everybody else's pants.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I always found hug raids to be full of fail, but that is me. I do think they make Anonymous look like pussies and filthy hippies. To each their own, but no thanks.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Speaking as someone who's never been on a hug raid, you could just...not go on the hug raids?
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids So, if we sit on the net and fire off prank calls behind 9000 proxies we DON'T look like pussies? Yeah you're right. Just the other day I heard this bouncer at a club say to the other bouncer. "Yo, dood, have you heard about those /b/tards? They are fucking HARD CUNTS. Do NOT go messing with them I tell you, YOU DO NOT want them coming down here and fucking our shit up!". The other guy looked mortified and replied "I agree, one of them once ordered a pizza for my grandmother that she TOTALLY didn't order herself! FUCKING SCARY SHIT MAN". So yeah, I agree. No more doing what you want, instead, listen to the OP. He's an Original (intertubes) Gangsta and could put some serious hurt down on you.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids OH MY GOD SOMEONE IN A LEADERLESS ORGANIZATION IS DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN SITTING ON THEIR ASSES AND BITCHING ABOUT BEING TOO NICE. Disagree with it all you want, but dissing someone for doing something they think is fun is filled with more fail and aids than going out and doing something. THIS IS SRS BSNS PEOPLE WE MUST DEFEND OUR INTERNETS FROM CAREBEARS. though I do agree, I hate the free hugs scene kids... however you seem to be of the opinion that trolls can only be dicks. I won't go on a hug raid, but I also am not going to bitch about them because the Co$ reaction to friendliness is fucking funny as hell.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Not to other anons, so long as there are lulz to be had. Lulz are the only thing keeping a lot of anons here.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Your self-worth as a net denizen is measured by the number of prank calls you make? Weird. Well, here's a pro-tip. Anon seems to be big enough for a lot of people and a lot of activities. While those guys are out hug-raiding and minding their own business, why don't you go pre-order Battletoads or contribute something lulzy? Too many people sit back and expect to be entertained. If you're not having fun, do something fun. I've been making crappy shoops and messing about on IRC. Are we so far gone here on enturb that there's nothing /i/ can come up with that's amusing? Or are you simply not interested in chasing Scientology any more? If not, that's fine, just decide I guess.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids If hugs come with fliers, then what's the problem? Anonymous isn't your private army either.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Heh. Just because you are not into hug raids means that you think the prank calls are a good idea. And OMG A LEADERSLESS ORGANIZATION WHOSE MEMBERS ARE GIVING THEIR OPINIONS? Not like anyone is saying "End this shit! NOA!" More like, "No, sir... I don't like it." Hivemind, consesus, et cetera.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Oh, FWIW I want lulz too! If the old school /i/'ers can provide, awesome. I'm not from that scene, but I've heard of some of the funny stuff that's come off the chans and it's pretty awesome. We non-channers know you guys can deliver (hell, some of the channers on this board deliver lulz every day) so please, join in. Just don't get yourself RL b&. You may have to accept that enturb and project chan have grown to the point where non-channers are involved and doing stuff you consider AIDS. Is that something you're willing to accept and ignore? Or not? It's really over to you. Nothing anyone can do here to stop the hug raid (hell, half of Melbourne anon seem to be fucking each other senseless because of these damn raids and getting all huggy with each other).
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Out of curiosity, why is a thread that is promoting ending a certain type of activism in the activism section? Oh, so it's not proposing anything at all. Just airing personal grievances. Cool.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Yes yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just so you know, though, this just reads like "THEY'RE MAKING ME LOOK BAD BY ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY'RE HUGGING PEOPLE AND NOT HARDCORE BAWWWWWWWW" I'm all for the lulz, dude, seriously. Just go and make some instead of complaining about other people doing stuff that gives them lulz.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Opinion noted. Protip: Negative activism is not what this forum's ideal purpose
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Hell yeah it is for me de facto accepted because Anonymous is that flock of birds, it is that hive full of bees going after the pit bull and there are a variety of ways for doing it. Personally, I have a big ass personal space bubble and the whole hug raid thing makes me uncomfortable because of that. Just because I or others express a distaste for it doesn't mean we don't think others are "doing it wrong" and we just find other ways to contribute. Just because I find it pussy doesn't mean others do not find it nice and effective. That doesn't mean though, I won't share my unasked for opinion, either. ;-D
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I would 'dome it - but hey, the court of public opinion rules and lets have this one out. We need to hit our weekly quota of "baaw moralfags" and "baaw channers" some how.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Disagree. Quite frankly, I kinda frown on people saying "NO we shouldn't be doing ______" whether it be hug raids or prank calls. Different Anons do different things they want, that's the beauty of the nature of this project. Basically, if you don't like it (it either being prank calls or hug raids) man the fuck up and move on- time to do something you want to do instead of complaining about others.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Well, yeah as some anons before me said, i dont approve of the free hugs. You know what i do- i stick to my stuff (fliering, enturbulating scilons every chance i get), and let anyone else do whatever the hell they wanna do. The problem is not the hug raids, its that SOME people think they can tell anon what they can do. NOONE tells anon what anon can or cannot do, EVEN if hes been anon since hes been five. Also, DONT FEED THE TROLL!!!
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I hate the hugs crap, I love the prank calls that we do NOT do. I have to put up with the hug raids so all the huggies can put up with me saying DO NOT WANT.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Bottom line, I am a moralfag. Not all "Uh, hug raids... yeah." people are /i/ folks. To each their own, and there are as many ways to contribute to bringing this tawdry cult down as there are Anons.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids My 2p... I hate the hug raids, they make me so embarrassed as Anonymous and as a human. If it was some other organization doing them I, and everyone I've ever met, would be taking the piss out of them. It's the kind of toe curling shit that in our, admittedly cynical, culture just looks fake and forced. HOWEVER... If they want to do it, more power to them I say. Everyone has their gripes with Scientology and everyone has their own methods of protest, as long as we all stay within the law, diversity is our strength. AS LONG as those doing the hug 'raids' don't moan about other peoples methods (such as prank calling for example) or other peoples gripes (such as being opposed to their religious status) then we can make an effective, truly leaderless, truly decentralized group.
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Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids yeah actually I agree with that... as long as people dont try and tell other people what to do we are all gravy...
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Hug raids were mostly out of Reconnect anyway and were a good idea in that context. If people want to keep doing them so what? Do what you can and leave the fucking other guy the fuck alone alfuckinready. But if this thread starts going into what Anonymous IS and what it ISN'T again we'll have another reason why the OP was a bad idea. /me this thread
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids ^^ As usual, you speak the truth. I thought the hug raids were hilariously funny. They served a purpose. Next! What can we do next that is full of Win and Lulz?
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Clearly so far it hasn't, so why bring it up? What, we cannot share opinions on various ideas and tactics? Ludicrous. No one is saying Anonymous is this or that, we are giving opinions on this one particular thing but no one has said "they must end!"
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Dont feed the troll. I said this allready but noone seems to be listening. OP posted ONE post, and then shut up. Wonder why? Becouse he is (wether he realises it or not) a wonderfull troll- spewing crap that will not get him B&, but will couse a upheaval. So BEFORE YOU POST, think 10 secs about what your post will actually contrinute to the thread. last 9000 posts (including my previous one), contributed a total of ZERO.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids What? i can't share my opinion on various ideas and tactics? C'mere you big lug & lemmee kiss ya!
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Cease your faggotry. Apart from that, I don't really have anything to add that hasn't been done already. I'm neutral on hug raids, if you like them, do them. If you don't, then don't. Saying you don't like them is fine, BAWWWing about it is not. I'm enjoying myself, though I have to admit, I do miss the aggressive tactics usually used in raids. DDOSing might be illegal, but it's always lulz.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I'll be honest - I hadn't realised people had a problem with the hug raids. It is looking like the consensus opinion is end them, and to be honest, whilst I have never had a issue with them, I think we should probs go with majority opinion here. However, I don't think we should stop the smaller raids. It is much easier to flier when in small groups. Speaking from experience, the public is much more receptive of a small number of people fliering than they are of a large mob jeering at the loonies across the road. I think its good to have small parties doing "mini-raids", but if we want to lay off the hugs then so be it.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids I think behaviour at the raids should be guided by the environment said raid is located at -- do what makes the public comfortable enough to approach us. Let's look at the pros/cons of hug raids: Pro *Make us less scary, and dispels the "Church's" lies about us being terrorists. *Helps us connect with the public. *Are fun, which is essential to maintaining moral. Con * Can scare off people not comfortable with the idea of hugging a stranger. * Might make us look less credible to some people. * Some members of Anonymous don't want to be any part of a hug raid. That being said, I think hug raids have their place in raids, so long as they follow these rules: * Restrict hug raids to areas with a large population of younger, easy-going adults: college campuses and towns, etc. * Run them in conjunction with normal flyering: we still want to get info out there, and not everyone wants a hug. * Have a sign with "Free hugs", and don't ask people if they want a hug unless it's obvious they're interested. Some people aren't comfortable hugging strangers, and you don't want to scare them away from anonymous. * Keep it fun! Play some music, joke, etc. The idea behind the hug raids is to connect with the public. To all those saying "hug raids are universally bad": I'll give you that hug raids might not work in your area; I was at the Chicago raid, and think that a hug raid wouldn't work there. However, there are place where hug raids can help, and thus are a valid raid technique. Just look at this video: YouTube - 3/29/08: Anonymous' Terrorist Hug Raid in SF Also, bear in mind one of the main strengths of anonymous is our diversity. We are a world wide movement, and need to recognize that different places require different modes of attack. Different != Bad: we should judge techniques based on how well they work at individual raids.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Sounds like someone needs a hug. Anyhow, the hug raids aren't far off. We'll see what kind of reception we get and take it from there. If they aren't successful, there's no harm in a few hugs. Personally, though, I'm very excited about them. I see it as a great chance to further our peaceful image, spread the word about the dangers of scifaggotry and give some much needed hugs.
Re: Hug raids are made of fail and aids Are hug raids still going on? I thought they were a thing just for Operation Reconnect.
